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When Predators Go Public
A rise in predator encounters causes alarm and debate.
POSTED BY: Tracy Breen
November 04, 2011
Jerrod Lile from Montana was recently elk hunting when he and his friend had a close encounter with a grizzly. “All of a sudden my buddy was running toward me.” Lile said. “I looked behind him and saw a grizzly running right at us. I pulled my pistol and was ready to fire when the bear was less than 10 yards away. Thankfully, the bear veered off at the last second. It was a close call.”
Stories like this one are becoming all too familiar, so more hunters are packing a sidearm when they venture into the woods.
Most states that have done studies on black bears recently indicate that bear numbers are rising. Many indicate that mountain lion populations are also increasing. Wolf and coyote numbers are also rising. However, solving the problem is very complicated.
“In many parts of the country the only way predator numbers can be reduced is to allow more hunting,” explained Dr. Dave Samuel, former wildlife management professor at West Virginia University. “Grizzly bears, black bears and wolves are hot issues for the anti-hunters, and even though science indicates that predators need to be thinned in many parts of the country, animal rights groups don’t really base their opinions on science.”
Of Dogs and Cats
Bears aren’t the only predators causing problems. Wolves and mountain lions are also a growing issue. In Alaska, many residents are having run-ins with wolves. Dogs have been taken off their leashes while their owners were walking them. As a result, Alaska has contemplated taking packs of wolves out by sharpshooting them from helicopters. Wolves are a growing problem in the West and the war between animal rights groups and wildlife management groups continues.
In states like California where mountain lions aren’t legally hunted, there have been several lion attacks on people during the past decade. As a result, their numbers are increasing and so are the number of bad encounters with people.
“Anywhere predators can’t be hunted their numbers often rise quickly,” Samuel stated. “As they lose their fear of humans, they don’t have any problem walking into someone’s backyard and taking a dog or cat.” If a mountain lion or grizzly encountered a person instead of running off like they used to, they often get too close for comfort—or attack.
Mountain lions are heading east. “Mountain lions are no longer just a Western animal. Many eastern states are seeing more evidence that mountain lions are roaming around,” Samuel said. Sightings of mountain lions have occurred in Michigan, Wisconsin and other states recently.
“Mountain lions head east because there are so many deer and turkeys in the eastern United States and catching a meal is easy. Bobcat numbers are also increasing in the eastern United States.”
Fighting Back
Anti-hunters loudly voice their opinions and hunters need to start doing the same. We also need to protect ourselves when we are in the field. Hunters spend a lot of time in the woods and the chances of encountering a bear or mountain lion is higher when you spend a lot of time in their living space. You might think that if you carry a sidearm you are safe, but that might not be the case.
Carrying pepper spray might be a better option. Steve Kovach, a bear biologist based in Alaska, says pepper spray is a great option.
“I’ve had many close encounters with bears,” said Kovach. “Spray does a great job of deterring an attack because bears breathe it in and it gets in their eyes. Often shooting a bear or predator with a gun just gets them worked up.
Hunt safe, voice your opinion at the polls and, of course, hunt and trap predators if it’s legal to do so in your neck of the woods.
Comments
By
Tyler02
Sunday, November 07, 2010 9:29 PM
I think predator hunting is a good solution, and in Florida where I live, seasons on most predators are year round
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cbrake
Monday, November 08, 2010 3:17 PM
I am a bow hunter but I think its a load of bull. People keep wiping out acres of land just to put in a strip mall and wonder why nature fights back. People go hunting or camping and get all bent out of shape because they encounter an animal. We are in THEIR backyard, so if anyone has the right to complain it should be the animals. We hunt them and in turn they hunt us (how does it feel to no longer be on the top of the food chain?). Its only fair. Granted, I wouldn't want to encounter a grizzly or cougar but if I did...oh well. It goes with the territory. If you don't want to take that chance...STAY HOME. If you don't want them walking into your livingroom...stay out of theirs.
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rufas1100
Monday, November 08, 2010 7:45 PM
If you look at the duck population you can see that when people hunt a species or a group of species they tend to become prosperous. As a crowd begins to form, all the predators will be hunted at some point. as this happens people put back and help stabilize a healthy huntable population.
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243pat
Tuesday, November 09, 2010 11:04 AM
I live in Montana, the deer and elk population is lower then it has been years ago. Reintroducing wolves is a big part of that. I believe a season should be reopened to hunt the wolves. We need to regain control of the numbers. Let our deer and elk populations grow again!
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dstephenson2
Tuesday, November 09, 2010 7:18 PM
I also live in Montana and agree there needs to be a season on wolves to keep them at controlable numbers. if we dont do something soon we will be taken over , and as far as a bear goes, we hunt black bear here but yet a GRIZZLY is illegal to shoot even if he is on the attack you have to be hurt before you dare shoot him. BS put the grizzly back on the hunted list and keep them at controlable numbers also. cbrake obviously you are nut from any of these states where you are out with the grizzly or the wolves. lets put some where you live and see just what you hunters think when all your game is gone. and see just what you think and feel when a grizzly is staring you in the eye, IT WILL NOT BE OH WELL THEN.
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dstephenson2
Tuesday, November 09, 2010 7:22 PM
FISH AND GAME in our state does a great job with keeping game around for us to hunt for years to come , we dont need the high numbers of bears and wolves to take it away
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cbrake
Tuesday, November 09, 2010 7:42 PM
No disrespect meant. I can appreciate the concerns over predators, however I was simply stating that we too are predators and "if" a person encounters another predator, be it wolf, bear, cougar,etc,etc..., then may the best animal/man win (hence my remark "Oh well"). If I was attacked by a predator it's either me or it. No, I wouldn't want to endure such an encounter, but... when I go hunting, I'm in THEIR back yard (so to speak) and thats a chance I have to be and am willing to take. I understand what others are saying and I do agree with most. Not meaning to offend anyone with my posts, I'm simply saying when we are out in the wild, hiking/camping/hunting, we shouldn't complain if we have a chance encounter with a wild animal. Again, it goes with the territory. Bears, wolves, cougars, etc, have the right to be out in the wild just as much as the deer, elk or whatever and yes they do need to be managed, but not hunted to the point of near extinction (did I spell that right?). Happy hunting and be safe!
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cbrake
Tuesday, November 09, 2010 7:49 PM
On the issue of predators in the public. Just something I think about... If a person leaves their trash out all night, instead of doing it in the morning before the trash is picked up and an animal, be it dog, racoon, bear, etc, etc..., gets into the trash, it isn't the animals fault for doing what is in their nature to do when they are hungry. People do the same thing (dumpster diving) if they are homeless/hungry. Just food for thought. No pun intended.
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chuck123
Thursday, November 11, 2010 2:16 PM
2 Points about the predator in public. 1. This past week there was a bear attack at the base of the Olympic Mtns. in Washington State (where I live). Now I beleive the "vicitm" was partly at fault for not having complete control of her dog (Woman walking her dog near a wooded area, her dog saw a bear and ran after it, she got between them and was injured by the bear). People need to be more attentive to their surroundings and take steps to protect themselves. If the woman in Washington had had her dog on a leash and was carring pepper spray, she might not have gotten hurt, or would have been able to avoid the bear completely. 2. Preditors decrease in fear of humans is another part of the problem. At a local butcher store where I live, the owner has a picture of himself posing with a beautiful Bull Elk he had harvested with a rifle this year. Behind him, in the picture, was a cougar approaching. The picture was taken after dusk so the cat ran off when the camera flash went off. The butcher didn't even know the cat was there until the following day when he looked at the picture. The cat obviously came looking for a free meal when the gun went off. More predators need to learn (like deer & elk) that humans = 1 dead predator, not 2 free meals (the harvested game/or pet and an inattentave person).
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Wingsofeagles237
Friday, November 12, 2010 7:32 AM
Predators have always been there, but that doesn't mean that they don't need to be controlled. There should be hunting for all predators to keep the balance from getting out of control. I have heard of too many stories where a mountain lion has attacked a child or has killed someone's pet in their own backyard, in the city. Predators need to be controlled just like any other species needs to be balanced. I say keep hunting limits open on predators.
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dstephenson2
Friday, November 12, 2010 7:13 PM
Cbrake if I offended you I opologize its just funny how we try to save our wildlife for the upcoming generations, but yet the federal government as dumb as they are , allow animal rights to control the wolve issues, meanwhile our dear and elk numbers are declining drastically every year. We need alotted permits every year to keep the wolf # at controlled levels, I just dont see , maybe we should all be given an animal rights tag, lol. or even turn about 100 wolves loose in the New York park and see how well them city folk like it. then they will have a l;ittle different outlook on things.. WOLVES are very destructive and eating 6-12 pounds of meat per day with 10 -12 per pack do the math is getting to the point around here most are sayiny SHOOT,SHOVEL AND SHUT UP , what else can we do?
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cbrake
Friday, November 12, 2010 9:21 PM
I am not offended at all, but thank you for your consideration. I guess debates such as this can get heated due to misunderstandings. Its all good my friends! Be safe, have fun and God bless!
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mkoch1
Friday, November 12, 2010 10:38 PM
I live in the northeastern part of kansas, i hunt mostly public land. I to believe preditor numbers need to be controlled. Last year (on public land i was deer hunting), there was snow on the ground and i had 3 coyotes run at me across a feild as i was walking back to my truck. I had a shotgun with 5 slugs in my pocket. when i seen them i only had time to get one shell loaded. They got about 10 yards from me and i shot. Scared the other 2 off with the blast of the gun. It wasnt a pretty picture for him, and i felt really bad that i had to do that. So this year starting in feb. I decided i was gonna do some coyote huntin. So leading up to this deer season i was able to take 13 coyotes. I dont know what they were trying to do but it scared the hell outta me. If they are hungry obviously they need to be thinned out a bit. Just an experience ive had and thought i would share it with everyone while on this topic.
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groves
Saturday, November 13, 2010 8:27 PM
Coyotes in Illinois are a problem, but the IDNR has recently loosened up on the methods these animals can be controlled, electronic calling and night vision scopes are just a few of the options. If we as hunters can not keep the species in check who will, coyotes have no natural preditors to off set the rise in thier numbers. The IDNR has not let special interest groups sway them, good common sense and science are being used.
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dstephenson2
Saturday, November 13, 2010 8:40 PM
Unfortunately here in Montana , Wolves are the big issue as well as Grizzlies and OUR federal government does not have the balls to tell the ANIMAL RIGHTS ACTIVISTS were to get off. we can shoot or trap coyotes year round here and at times fish and game puts a bounty on them. But wolves on the other hand were last year on a limited quota but the ARA got involved and was looking at a law suit against the FED GOVT. if they did not put a stop to the hunting of wolves. wolves are way over populated and out of control.
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gwarren1961
Sunday, November 14, 2010 7:30 AM
Greedy land developers and Big Government are responsible for these attacks on humans, you are taking there homes away from them and forcing them to survive. Much like Governments Eminant Domain ruling (this is theft, by force) so goes it with our wildlife, you get a bunch of money hungry city slicking Idiots who have no clue and no respect for mother earth or nature OBAMA is a good example of Idiot
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TSTICE
Sunday, November 14, 2010 5:31 PM
I find it ironic that the same 'animal rights' groups i.e. PETA that claim to advocate for animal freedoms are the same groups responsible for euthanizing the majority of discarded pets in the U.S.A. Does anyone else hear an echo of hypocrite in their arguments?
The best benefit to any game species has always come from the foresite in the ammo tax going to wildlife conservation. Kudos where it is due, that is one thing the government got right.
I live in Alaska and love to hear the wolves howl at night. I still carry a pistol and pepperspray when I walk my dog or go hunting. It's called common sense. I try to remember to use it often.
BTW, all these new hunting clothes that claim to keep you warmer etc? Splurge the money and get yourself a fur coat and hat. I guarantee you will be warm down to -60ºF and more. I'm working on shooting enough winter wolves for a nice dress coat right now. You'll need around 5. The best part? Furs are an enviromentally sound clothing option as they are a renewable resource.
Happy Hunting!
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papa58
Thursday, November 18, 2010 9:06 PM
Well let me start off first I am amember of PETA that stands for people eat tasty animals. If you do not have bears,mountain lions,wolves,and coyotes where you live. Just back up and support the other hunters where they live. If that is not good enough for all then the so called enviromentalist will shut down your hunting rights in your state next. I live in New Mexico and we have all the above predators except for the grizzlies they say but there are some big paw prints and tree markings way up high out in the wilderness out here. Let me advise you a predator does not care who,what or where its next meal comes from it just wants to survive. The big questions should be how come it is our money and work that takes care of the game, predators,fish and wildlife and we are the bad guys. I fully believe that a god loving wildlife sportman or trapper knows all the importance for our animals loves seeing and whatching and hunting them even if it is just with a camera that if you don't hunt, fish, trap then you should have know say in it.If anyone has any bad thing to say to me here is my email jalex94@hotmail.com also I have 7 very healthy Grandsons I will be teching the arts of hunting ,fishing,trapping,and Predator calling to when they can carry a gun to defend themselves and our Country. May god Bless and Semper Fi USMC
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rlfree40
Monday, November 22, 2010 12:45 PM
right on papa. where we live there have been 2 mountain lions spotted right next to our elementary school. i would bet pita would say leave them alone, don't hunt them. man people better figure it out. that mountain lion don't give a rats a#% if it kills a child to eat. and I don't think that it was there for a education. maybe in a perfect world where predators eat children and family pets, not to mention all the damage they do to live stalk and other animals. and besides that wasn't those sprouts that you are eating living things also. it has been shown that plants and vegetables actually do better depending on which type of music is played for them. they do better when you talk to them. sounds pretty alive to me. when you idiots start eating dirt I will start listening to you
By
em
Monday, November 22, 2010 9:41 PM
"Mountain lions head east because there are so many deer and turkeys in the eastern united states" How do they know that? maybe it's just the way that statement is worded that makes it sound so rediculous!there not headed east there range is expanding to the east! they don't have anyway of knowing if there are more deer and turkeys in the east! I'm in northeastern NY and I hear stories that there are mountain lions in this area, but NYS encon denies there existence, as an avid hunter and outdoorsman I spend countless hours in the woods and have seen no sign of mountain lions in my area. there is no doubt they are moveing east. there are reasons why many predators were exterminated to near extinction! a predator is always going to take the easy meal, dog, cat ,livestock, or a child from a playground or back yard! a predator will take a newborn calf in a farmers pasture before even trying to catch a deer! many newborn calves have been taken by coyotes from the pastures of our dairy farm! predators are just looking for a meal they don't care what it is!
By
em
Monday, November 22, 2010 10:00 PM
most of the predators that are being reintroduced in areas that they once thrived. they were killed off for a reason. a predator always takes the easy meal, livestock, pets, or children from backyards or playgrounds, the reason these predators numbers were reduced still exists, as there numbers grow we see livestock, and pets killed, and people attacked! bring back the predators and you bring back the problems they cause!!!!!
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brandonsimmons848
Sunday, January 09, 2011 6:32 PM
ya but i have a mountain lion and packs of coyotes in my back yard all the time.almost every night!and the other day i saw a GIANT black bear with her cubs in my back yard!
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Ken King
Tuesday, August 23, 2011 10:00 AM
Hunters, just live trap a few predators and take them to the next local PETE meeting and your honored guest, maybe they will get the picture when they see them running loose among them ...lets see how many they want to protect then.
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npaul
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 1:15 PM
For me the answer is so simple it's almost funny. As a Christian, I believe that the whole earth is given to man. Every living plant and animal was given to man for his substance and enjoyment. But man was also given the responsibility to take care of the earth that we have been given. This means, manage the wildlife, take care of the habitat that we both live in. The Bible also states that if an animal kills or attacks a person it should be eliminated. (Not relocated). People first. It’s not their back yard. It’s were we keep them. Just like a farmer keeps his animals in fields.
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Skathi's Bow
Thursday, November 10, 2011 8:33 PM
I also agree that the predators should be hunted to manageable levels, but I do find it hard to simply blame them for the elk and deer populations dwindling. Some people make it sound as though elk and deer will be hunted to extinction if the wolves and other predators are not eliminated. Wolves and these predators have been here for thousands of years and the elk and deer did not go extinct then. They will survive the wolves. The biggest issue is will the ranchers. Now I am not an animal activist or anything, but there is always two sides to every story. And as for Biblical law...that book also states that you should forsake this world for the next. So why would you care if animals overran the earth? You don't have to worry about them in heaven. And man was given the responsibility to take of the earth, while satan was given it to rule. What an odd coincidence.
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jcarter24
Friday, November 11, 2011 12:35 PM
I look at it as the Great spirit grants you the animals on the earth so if the Great spirit let you see it then he will let it be taken for food or clouthing so to all the hunter ask the GREAT SPIRIT NOT Pete
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brucealanoliver
Saturday, November 12, 2011 6:00 PM
If you are going to manage the wolves you have to have a healthy reproducing population firstl 800 wolves in a state the size of montana is not that many wolve nor is a healthy reproducing population. Some say we need science and then complain when it is used. This is not science. Would you cull a herd of cattle when you only had five and say that was a healty herd that you could reproduce and maintain a ranch on. No but you think 800 on the millions of acres of montana is too many and five in Oregon is too many get real. Predators do not attack humans unless they becom used to them which happens when they feed off garbage cans and dumps like bears or people feed them to ge photos at parks. The park service has had a tough job trying to bear proof garbage and eliminate it from thier menu for the last fifty years. coyotes will take domestic dogs and cats from yards but wolves wont. wolves will control coyotes by eliminating them from thier territories. They have spread over the US because we have got rid of the wolves. No healthy wolf has been recorded to have attacked anyone in the lower 48. A cougar would not come to a so but would come to the smell of blood so that would explain your friends visit at a elk hunt. They would also attack women in munstrual cycle on a jogging trail which has happened in california and colorado. Were I live bear will come to garbage cans of woodland homes in spring after hibernation so they must be made bear proof. The only game to ever be hunted to extinction in its natural environment by a prdetor , the predator was man. Man has introduced predators to islands like rats and snakes that have hunted species to extinction but man was the cause. And like the Eastern Cougar which was declared extinct several months ago it was man and a government bounty that was the cause.
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RobGolden
Saturday, November 12, 2011 11:53 PM
I live in central NY, I cant say northern NY but definately not a down stater. Eastern Cougars extinct? Thats funny for it was only a week or so ago one was shot by NYS state troopers...or so I have been told. And I am sorry to any this upsets, irritates, or otherwise confuses but after seeing the decline in deer population in my tiny speck of the world and the increase in predator populations I think and agree with most hunting is the best way to control those populations. That being said, others are right as well, guess what the fastest growing predator population is...thats right humans....so lets control that too...not by hunting of course, and education seems to have failed. But why does the family with 9 kids and both parents, able to work to support thier but choose to sit on their ever growing asses and collect welfare, get to eat steak and drive big expensive vehicles, while their are those like me and my average family with 3 kids, my wife and I work a minimum of 10 hours a day have to drive cheap junk vehicles and eat mostly what we can grow and kill. I say take the welfare from those that dont deserve it and give it back to those that paid in for thier whole lives and the human population growth will slow greatly. All predators need to be controlled to "healthy populations" as do those that are not predators. And yes for the sake of argument that includes such "living" things as trees and other plants.
God speed and safe hunting.
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brucealanoliver
Sunday, November 13, 2011 6:13 AM
The cat you refer to was hit by a car in MilfordCon and was from the Black Hills of South Dakota which set a record for travel by cougars. The U. S. Fish and Wildlife listed the Eastern Cougar as extinct in March 2011 after no trace of the animal has been seen in fifty years. The cougar was wiped out in New York state in the late 1800's. Here in Virginia we had some till the 1930's. As a born and bred hillbilly and a Alumni of Va Tech in the Forestry and Wildlife Management College I believe in sound scientific management of all the natural resources. The first rule is to know the resource and the second is to know how to manage it. Today we have to many politicians forcing management down the throat of those who know the resource and how to manage it because of public opinion which does not follow scientific management plans but old wives tales and hysteria on the most part. And when money is on table it follows the money. Money buys opinions and that is the ruin of democracy and science. I have been a hunter for forty five years and a environmentalist and scientist for forty five years. The three are not seperate but all part of the same philosophy. I think people need to realize that these issues are not counter one another. They are only when big money pits them against each other to try and get its way. Wildlife is a national treasure and we should remember that and then remeber what right we have to destroy that treasure so some one else will never see it. My children will never see a Eastern Cougar or Passenger pigeon. I will fight for the right of your children to see a live wolf. and every one else's childre to see one whether they care about it or not. Thier grandchildren may want to see one. I would have loved to see a Eastern woodland bison. To see the Chesapeake bay covered in rafts of geese and swans and ducks like they were a hundred fifty years ago. You cant turn back time but you can stop it from repeating itself.
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hhenderson1
Monday, November 14, 2011 8:58 AM
oregon sucks as far as predators are concerned. I carry a glock when I'm bow-hunting. I had to use it once on a cougar, but I see and have close encounters with them frequently it's just so brushy here that you cant get a clear shot and they'll circle you in the brush. you just see a flash. many a times I've found a cougar track on top of mine. here's some food for thought; I spend a lot of time in the back country and frequently I find more than one cougar track together. and no, they are not all momma and cubs. they are big tracks, and I've seen photos that some guys had taken with their trail cam. 3 full grown cougars in one photo, that's a little rediculous. Every herd of elk has a cougar track in them. our deer population is nothing, the fawns die as soon as they are born. the fawns fall victim to the cyotes, and cougars mostly. I fear that soon in western oregon we will have no more Black tail in the wild. the deer population reside in town where they feel safe. I'm a patrol officer who works grave-yard and I see cyotes running through the streets with house cats in their mouths. and sometimes a young cougar will venture in town, but it's rare. however it also seems to be happening more often. We have a ton of black bears but they haven't been a problem cuz there is a lot of shrubery for them to eat and grubs and larvae to eat. they will destroy your orchard if you don't have a dog to keep them away though.
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Anonymous User
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 2:01 PM
Last year I was deer hunting in Oregon, above the Santiam Pass of the Cascade Mtn.'s, in about eight inches of snow. I jumped some elk that were bedded down in the jack pines, and continued my hunt for about another hour. I came upon a fresh wolf track in the snow, about four to five inches across, and was surprised. I sat down on a log and had a snack, and decided to head back down the mountain, due to the fact that it was getting late, and I had about two hours of hiking to return to my camp. I just started back tracking my trail in the snow. About 200 yards down the trail, the wolf tracks were on top of my tracks in the snow. It was a little bit disturbing, but I continued on down the mountain, following my back trail. When the wolf came to the point where I had jumped the elk earlier, it left my trail and took out after the elk. I made it back to my camp just after dark-thirty. Just two days ago, a friend of mine was elk hunting around Diamond Lake in the Cascade's, and saw a herd of elk, with a wolf on their trail. So wolves are not just in the northeast part of the state of Oregon, they are also in the Cascade Mtn.'s. I hunt deer and elk every year in the Cascade Mtn.'s, and have for over 40 years. Since hunting bear and cougar with dogs have been stopped in Oregon, their numbers have increased drastically, and the deer and elk herds have decreased accordingly. And now we have the wolves to add to the mix.
By
RAbear51
Thursday, November 17, 2011 6:32 AM
cbrake, I responded to the same question last month with the same mind-set as you and two testosterone macho guys lambasted me with retorts about us being the supreme beings, humans dominate,humans first/animals second yada yada yada. The fact remains that we ARE intruding more and more into an animal's domain and act like we expect them to just yield and move on and then act surprised when they don't !When the time comes that there is NO MORE ROOM for them it will be like shooting fish in a barrel for a couple years and then they will be gone. Simple science. We need as a society to develope a deeper respect for the animals(all kinds) right to exist and to better understand their roll in the BIG Picture.It is our duty to be good stewards of our environment and understand the complexities of eco-systems as well as possible. How many more strip malls,highways, malls ,subdivisions do we need and how many can our ecosystem tolerate. Greed will doom our hunting future if we don't wake up and say to greedy developers and city planners..ENOUGH ! it's our world !! I love my deer,squirrel,grouse,pheasant hunting but coyotes,wolves,bears,bobcats,and lions have a place too. We focus on management bof game speies and try to wipe out non-game and predatory species. Seems like we need to focus our gaining knowledge on ALL species..Plant and animal alike. We can all fit if we do our part and lose thisHE-man,Supreme being idiosy many people adhere to. peace and good hunting to all
By
Luckless
Saturday, November 26, 2011 7:18 PM
I hunt predators with the same passion i hunt whitetails. I find an equel thrill in each. I didn`t get a coyote last winter and i haven`t got a deer this fall yet. I would say here in Ontario we see a circle happening. One year the deer and rabbits are plenty, coyotes few. Give it 3 years and all 3 are high along with fox. Then in 2 years deer and rabbits are down, coyotes and fox follow in a year or 2. Then it repeats itself. Nature will balance itself, we need to balance our hunting and/or development to match.Its not rocket sience..........
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Luckless
Saturday, November 26, 2011 7:19 PM
PS Good Hunting to all!
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jlebo2
Sunday, November 27, 2011 7:28 AM
personaly i think that if all the hunters stick together they will come up with a positive corrective action. do to the fact that we are all human we are nnever going to agree 100% on anything, but as a hunter we will all agree that peta and other groups like them can all kiss are a@$ because in their minds they are never wrong and there is only one answer. if they want so much to protect our wild life, they should have an open season on peta where hunters are allowed to carry one of their favorit weapons, a pot or a pan, and the hunter should be able to smack on of them upside the head on the way to their stand. maybe that would knock something loose in their close minded head to make them see that regulated hunting is the best thing for the wildlife. good luck to everyone in your hunts and remember to be safe and take a young hunter with you!!!
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