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7mm Rem Mag recipes for Ramshot powder
Last Post 15 Mar 2013 09:45 AM by finepoint. 8 Replies.
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05 Mar 2013 10:53 PM
I keep getting conflicting information, and I'm just curious if anyone has a load for the following rounds with RAMSHOT MAGNUM powder and/or RE-22:

175 grain Sierra Boat Tail Spitzer
175 grain Speer Hot Core (HC) Mag Tip
160 grain Nosler Partition
160 grain Nosler Accu Bond Spitzer
Remington Accu Tip Boat Tail


I have enough information to use similarly built bullets from the same manufacturers with RAMSHOT MAGNUM powder, but don't know that I feel safe guessing.

Thanks!


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06 Mar 2013 11:49 AM

The Rem. 7mm mag., is well covered in the Ram Shot reloading data. You can go up onto thier web page and down load what ya need or ya can call'um and they will send you one of thier load guides. Ph# 406-234-0422  or www.ramshot.com
Allen

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07 Mar 2013 09:11 PM
ahoffman2,
I appreciate the info, but I've already got the data they provide and most of the bullets I mentioned aren't covered. I've spoken with one of the company reps and he said to use data from bullets that are out of the same manufacturer and weight, but I don't know that I feel comfortable with that.
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08 Mar 2013 07:43 AM
In my experience, the difference from one barrel to another is greater than the difference between a 130 gr Speer Spt, 130 gr Sierra SBT and a 130 gr Nosler partition bullet. When working up a load for a new bullet I usually look for a manual that lists the grain bullet I plan to load and the powder I want to use. Then I start somewhere in the middle of the range or if I already have a load worked up for the given powder and another bullet of the same weight I drop back to 90% of the powder charge and start from there (assuming I do not go below the minimum charge listed in the manual). I then work my way up in 0.5 or 1 grain increments looking for impact on accuracy until I find the best group without exceeding the manual limit for powder charge or stop increasing at the slightest sign of excess pressure (whichever comes first). The only exception to this rule is the difference between solids and “copper” clad lead bullets. Load data for between these types of bullets of the same weight is not interchangeable. In general, solids result in higher pressures because they are not a ductile as lead core bullets.

Therefore, my experience indicates that the manufacturer rep is correct.

jack
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08 Mar 2013 11:38 AM
Posted By jboshoven on 08 Mar 2013 08:43 AM
In my experience, the difference from one barrel to another is greater than the difference between a 130 gr Speer Spt, 130 gr Sierra SBT and a 130 gr Nosler partition bullet. When working up a load for a new bullet I usually look for a manual that lists the grain bullet I plan to load and the powder I want to use. Then I start somewhere in the middle of the range or if I already have a load worked up for the given powder and another bullet of the same weight I drop back to 90% of the powder charge and start from there (assuming I do not go below the minimum charge listed in the manual). I then work my way up in 0.5 or 1 grain increments looking for impact on accuracy until I find the best group without exceeding the manual limit for powder charge or stop increasing at the slightest sign of excess pressure (whichever comes first). The only exception to this rule is the difference between solids and “copper” clad lead bullets. Load data for between these types of bullets of the same weight is not interchangeable. In general, solids result in higher pressures because they are not a ductile as lead core bullets.

Therefore, my experience indicates that the manufacturer rep is correct.

jack


THE FUNNY THING ABOUT MY HORNADY GMX BULLETS IS THAT , I CAN LOAD THEM WITH LEAD DATA.. AND HAVE NO PROBLEM'S WITH PRESSURE  OF F.P.S. MY GMX 150GR FOR MY 30/06 SHOOT AT 2,987 F.P.S. AND MY PRESSURE IS AT 46,000 CUP .. BUT FOR BARNES BULLETS YOU BETTER WATCH YOUR LOADS VERY CLOSE AND DONT PUSH IT..  I ALSO LOAD MY BOLT ACTION 30/30 WITH THE NEW HORNADY  NON LEAD BULLETS AND , I HAVE LOAD DATA FOR THEM THAT YOU CANT USE FOR LEVER GUN'S.. I HAVE LOADED SOME BARNES 110GR TTSX BULLETS FOR MY 30/30 BLT ACTION THAT KICK LIKE A 22 MAG BUT F.P.S. IS AT 2,885 AND THE PRESSURE IS AT 24,000 CUP.. SO , I THINK THATS A GREAT LOAD FOR ANY GAME .. I'VE TAKEN SHOT'S AT 350YRDS WITH THEM AND PUT THE COYOTES DOWN SO, I KNOW THEY WORK GREAT..  RETIRED USMC SNIPER , LM NAHC , LM DU , LM NRA , LM NATIONAL MATCH SHOOTERS ASSC ..


 

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08 Mar 2013 11:41 AM
Posted By kmessamer on 07 Mar 2013 10:11 PM
ahoffman2,
I appreciate the info, but I've already got the data they provide and most of the bullets I mentioned aren't covered. I've spoken with one of the company reps and he said to use data from bullets that are out of the same manufacturer and weight, but I don't know that I feel comfortable with that.

WHAT DATA DO YOU NEED AND WHAT ARE YOU SHOOTING .. I CAN HELP YOU .. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ASK ME .. RETIRED USMC SNIPER ..
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10 Mar 2013 11:30 PM
Cherokee,
You wouldn't know a recipe for Speer Hot Core 175 grain bullets, 7mm Rem. Mag., with either Ramshot Magnum or RE-22 powder?
I have found everything else I need, but this one seems to be void from any books I can find.

I've also prepared load variations for four other bullets and will be going out to see what works best in my rifle this weekend; any tips to make life easier besides use a lead sled and keep it at 100 yards?

Thanks,
Kmessamer
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11 Mar 2013 09:00 AM
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15 Mar 2013 09:45 AM
Speer's 175 gr hot-cor is a conventional cup-and-core type bullet and data can be interchanged with similarly constructed bullets such as the Hornady Interlock and the Sierra Game King (flat base). Bonded bullets load like cup-and-core bullets. The bearing surface (length of the straight portion of the bullet that engages the rifling) can make a minor difference, but the real problem is when comparing bullets with different internal construction. Bullets which are less "squishy" like Partitions or Speer Grand Slams,or homogeneous (e.g. Barnes or GMX) do not compress as well, resulting in higher peak pressures as the rifling is engaged.
As always, start low and work up carefully - every load/rifle combination is unique and no one can precisely predict what will happen in your situation. The load data is always a rough suggestion, not a precise mathematical formula.
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