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Healey, quilty of what felony?? Ya really think that all felons need to be quickly exacuted? Murders, rappiests, kidnappers, ------poloticians that refuse to pay taxes?
Yaaa, I'm OK with that!
Allen

yep me to

that reminds me of a joke the doc comes out to tell the wife that her husband has had a massive stroke and the bad news is he is brain-dead the good news is his heart is still beating and the wife exclaims we've never had a liberal in the family

I know capital punishment is the ultiment in taking ones rights the right to life. The founders understood capital punishment very, very well. Posibily the biggest reason for the Due Process. If somone did somthing such as murder they did put them in jail they hung them, they never had to worry if that person would do it again, If they were jailed or what ever other punishment once that was done they were freed and could move on with their live however they choose, no background checks later to keep them from owning anything. Kill them or keep them in jail, but once freed I do not believe the Due Process was meet to take their rights after they were demied dept paid. Ether they have or not if not why are they out, if you can not trust them with a gun why any other object that could be used as a weapon to do harm? And why are they out?
Is a gun the only thing anyone not just a felon can use as a weapon,  If they cannot be trusted Why are they out? that is my point.
I wonder how the guy who drove across the steam felt about felons owning guns before he became one. I am sure that if the liberals get their way on gun control issues there will be alot of felons, no longer allowed to vote think about it.

I guess I shouldn't have painted felons with such a broad brush. What I was referring to are habitual offenders, murderers, child molesters,. rapists, burglars, robbers, con-men, terrorists, meth manufacturers, coke and heroin dealers, illegals, and etc. I've never heard of the laws about driving across a creek, probably due to that not being something that could occur down here. As for game law violations, I personally view game laws in most cases, to be violations of our natural rights, so killing a wolf, or a 'gator doesn't fall into my definition of committing a felony. Poaching and trespassing, do! I also personally believe in the justice of a short rope and a tall tree for all of the types of felons I described in the second sentence.

I agree with rthomas4 on this topic my feelings is that the justice system has gone soft on the habitual criminal and these things should change hell you get more time for abuse of animals than you do for abusing children and to my way of thinking is ludicrous

Ron how do you feel about moonshiners, if caught they are felons? If have understand you, pot use is ok, Pot growers if caught are felons. As far as the murders, and rapist, those that there is no daught they did it, why are they still alive to do it again in the first place, much less have their other rights taken away. And yes taking ones life is the greatest right you can take away, but due process should (I say should) insure it is not taken away unjustly, but will insure they never do it again, if they can not be trusted to never do it again.

We have one on here that I wonder about .

Yes that's so true. I totally agree.

moonshiners are fine by me when we talk felons we are talking violent crimes gun crimes not stream crossing not pot smoking not defending one's lively hood or property

That is the thing Healey, felony or felon there is no distinction between a felon such as a moonshiner and yes there can be violent moonshiners, but a nonvoilent moonshiner, or steamcrosser and a murderer, rapeist, kidnaper and such.
I was baiting Ron with the moonshiners and weed growers. I believe those who use and sell meth, coke, herion are lacking some sence, and can do horrible things to get it and protect it. I know i will take some hits here, but those who manufacture and distribute such things are doing the same as the moonshiners and weed growers, People want what they provide. The proof is in the fact that Alcohol was prohibited in the US for some ten years, people still wanted it and still got it, and prohabition caused worse problems than it solved. Weed illegal for many years, And I must agree in some part, it is and was a gateway drug for some if not many. Any body remember the clip reefer madness. It was full of missinformation, mostly pure BS about the evil pot. Those that tried it never acted like all the BS that was in that clip. Many then thought if what they said about pot was all wrong and BS, how about the rest of it. Right or Wrong many may have tried the more addictive drugs, that did cause many of the problems they said pot did. Misinformation about one thing lead to the questioning of information of another. And being human, "well" and then you have the ten foot tall and bullet proof youth, I can handle anything, I can stop anytime I want. We almost always think we are stronger, smarter, and better then those you can clearly see on the streets who are addicts. Some body is going to say will, so do you think we should just make it all legal and the heck with it. I say No not realy, but is the way we are going about working, is it makeing things better. We are making a lot of felons, and alot of people on both sides of the Law Rich, and alot innocent people are getting killed, yep sounds like it is working very well. We can never protect people from themselves, Making it legal would allow it to come into the open, save tax payers alot of money. But all the laws and harsher punishments have not stopped it. The only next step because all our prisons are getting full of them, is to just start shooting them on sight. I believe that opption is just a little harsh, less they are breaking into your house, or some other violent crime. Banning or prohibiting guns from certain people is not going to stop crime any more than prohibiting Alcohol, or Pot stoppeded their use. We lock up spray paint so kids can not get it, they steal freon out of A/C units, they use bath salts, people are going to get high, and no matter what we do/and will they find a way. We can not protect people from themselves, but we can protect ourselves from them. The more useless laws we make to do that, the more liberty we ultimently we take from ourselves. Criminals do not have more rights than we do, they just use the ones we all have more oftin.

Charlie, most of the shine makers these days (at least the one's I know of) aren't in it for the profit, as much as just carrying on "the old family tradition". I view some of these laws, sort of like I view game laws. I might follow most of 'em simply because I don't want to lose my license; but that doesn't mean I agree with 'em. As for the old BS about pot leading to harder drugs; it's not the pot that leads to it, it's the people who a pot smoker is liable to associate with that lead to other drug use. I know that was the case when I was in college. BTW, it has recently come to light that the bath salts broohaha was false and was created by a cop who made a smart aleck remark to a reporter, then it went viral, and he couldn't retract his original comment because he would have had his case thrown out of court for lying!

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Missouri Senate passes bill to allow gun safe course
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The bill would give school districts the option to teach a National Rifle Association-sponsored gun safety program to students in first grade.

JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. (AP) — The first gun-related measure passed by a chamber in Missouri's Legislature would allow children and teachers to undergo safety training.

The Senate sent a bill to the House Monday with a 32-2 vote that would give school districts the option to teach a National Rifle Association-sponsored gun safety program to students in first grade.

It would also require teachers to perform a simulated intruder drill put on by local law enforcement.

The bill sponsored by Republican Sen. Dan Brown, of Rolla, gained praise from both Republicans and Democrats. Supporters say the plan handles school safety responsibly, compared to other proposals in the Legislature. They pointed to measures that would confiscate assault weapons and criminalize the introduction of gun control measures.

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The gun safety bill is SB75.

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Legislature: http://www.moga.mo.gov

live in a anti- gun state come to Missouri

the whole system needs overhauling justice,legislative ,IRS,all departments of government are in a shambles look at Eric Holder illegal gun dealer what he get nothing once again the have's beat the wrap and the have not's loose . I don't thing we should legalize all drugs it is just ridiculous what go's on in are courts the plea deals