ckell
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| 28 Feb 2013 04:38 PM |
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ckell
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| 28 Feb 2013 04:45 PM |
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rthomas4
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| 28 Feb 2013 04:54 PM |
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I didn't know they didn't. I know the guys and gals down here do. |
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Shootin'J
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| 28 Feb 2013 04:56 PM |
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I don't really think they need to. After all, they are always dispatched to try and save a life for any given reason. But, on the other hand I would have no qualms if they did. As I see it, they are dispatched with a truck load of potential weapons like needles, scalpals, and the like. Kind of like mechanics that have toolboxes loaded with pikers, cutters, mallots, and the list goes on. Have at it. The correct or protective use of the tools is there. A gun on a paramedic is the last thing I would be worried about if they were to show up to care for me. |
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ckell
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| 28 Feb 2013 05:23 PM |
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You are right SJ, we do have a box full of tools, that can be used as a weapon. The Oxigen Therapy the one medic talk about, which means an 02 bottle firmly applied to the side of the head. That is ok and good for hand to hand combat, but I have looked down the barrel of a gun, and that bottle was very inadequate. I have disarmed subjects with a knife, bare handed, it is amazing how strong fear can make you. |
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Shootin'J
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| 28 Feb 2013 05:35 PM |
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Kudos to you ckell. I am a mechanic and left a job on uneasy terms some years ago. Upon entering the property to pick up my toolbox, I was meat by security (if that's what they called it) with a wand. They said they had to, to make sure I didn't have any weapons on me. I politely informed them that I already had around 5k in tools that were potential weapons INSIDE the building that I was coming to take away. (Which they already knew the take away part.) Cops showed up in 10 minutes and I took my stuff out without incident or question. The look on securitys face was priceless! |
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TOM IN TENNESSEE
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| 28 Feb 2013 05:41 PM |
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Even tho I have a Carry Permit, i didn't always carry....til after Aurora.....my advise is now ALWAZE carry! Even where a sign sayas you can't !!
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ckell
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| 28 Feb 2013 06:11 PM |
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TIT I don't always carry on my person, I would like the opption to carry on duty, and protect my self, if needed againnest armed subjects with more than and 02 bottle or what ever was at hand, or bare handed. Like the other Paramedic stated And is kind of unsure about Medics carrying. Better judged by twelve than carried by six. And I would urge all Texas residents on here to contact you Texas Rep. and express your opinion on the subject, just there more for than againest. This is a web site you can go to to find your Texas Rep. http://www.fyi.legis.state.tx.us/Home.aspx |
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hatfield hunter
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| 01 Mar 2013 07:08 AM |
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Lets see---paramedics----saving lives----what part of carrying a gun to save lives do we not understand ? I am sure there are instances where a paramedic with a gun could have saved lives from a lunatic----Or how about themselves, Makes perfect sense to me ! |
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gopheer1
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| 01 Mar 2013 07:33 AM |
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They should have that option, I'm sure they go into places that normal people avoid, besides it's just another tool. Paramedics deal with situations that are very emotionally charged and I can envision them having to protect themselves more often than people think. |
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Steve
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| 01 Mar 2013 07:49 AM |
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Posted By ckell on 28 Feb 2013 07:11 PM
TIT I don't always carry on my person, I would like the opption to carry on duty, and protect my self, if needed againnest armed subjects with more than and 02 bottle or what ever was at hand, or bare handed. Like the other Paramedic stated And is kind of unsure about Medics carrying. Better judged by twelve than carried by six. And I would urge all Texas residents on here to contact you Texas Rep. and express your opinion on the subject, just there more for than againest. This is a web site you can go to to find your Texas Rep. http://www.fyi.legis.state.tx.us/Home.aspx
While I wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment, I see zero reason to limit it to Texas. This, among other causes, should be nationwide! http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml |
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ckell
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| 01 Mar 2013 01:55 PM |
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Steve, if it before other state legislatures, I would agree and certainly contact my Us Senator and Rep to suppot it nation wide. And the carrying, any where LE may carry. This the before the Texas State Legislature right now. That is why I urge Texans to contact their Reps. HH, The Paramedics job is to save lives, However those in Texas do not take the Hippocratic Oath. Some Medics in the militery are Conscientious Objectors. The Air Force Medics do carry weapons and will use them. Creto this I do that Others May Live. And dont get in their way as they do that. There are medics with CHL that do carry on duty, just as any CCL,CHL holder would, depending on who they work for and if they allow it. They can not carry in a Hospital or School. No medic wants to harm anyone and will go out of their way to prevent it, but if you want to go home at the end of a shift sometimes you do what you have to make that happen. Shooting some one would be the very last resort, in any medics mind. But it is better to have and not need, than need and not have. You think the Police have a lot of paper work at useing a gun. Just think about if you shoot someone then have to treat them for the GSW, paper work for the shooting for the Police, Medical Paper Work for treatment, and Incident Paper Work, then deal with your own Conscious. It would be a last resort, for many reasons, but an option non the less. |
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Steve
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| 01 Mar 2013 02:20 PM |
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gotcha. Didn't know it was on tap in Tx. Good luck! |
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