Hunting Forum

Yesterday, Colorado State Senator John Morse (D) introduced Senate Bill 13-196 concerning the "Assault Weapon Responsibility Act". It defines an assault weapon as any firearm except handguns, shotguns and bolt-action rifles. It makes you, as an owner of any weapon which it defines as an assault weapon, liable for improper storage which could allow a third person to come into possession of your assault weapon. It also makes you liable for a third person's actions if you entrust (loan) an assault weapon to them, or sell or transfer the weapon to them in violation of any state or federal law . Should you decide to sell one of your assault weapons, you must "use the highest degree of care in selling, transferring, distributing and storing weapons" and "receive information to have reasonable grounds to believe that the weapon will not be possessed by a person who may use it dangerously or unlawfully". Civil litigators (a nice term for lawyers) must be frothing at the mouth in anticipation of so much new business. This bill is wrong on so many levels, but establishing civil liability by poorly worded legislation, introduced by someone who is ignorant on the subject, should scare the snot out of everyone.

If you don't think Senator Morse does not know what he is talking about, this legislation defines a muzzleloading rifle as an Assault Weapon! Remember, under this law, an assault weapon is defined as any firearm except handguns, shotguns and bolt-action rifles.

There are four other gun control bills currently under consideration in the Colorado Legislature. If you are a Colorado resident, I urge you to contact your state senator and representative immediately to register your opposition to all of the bills. If you are not a Colorado resident, thanks for listening and realize that if Colorado can produce such idiotic legislation, just think what a more liberal state legislature where you live is capable of! Get involved!

CO USED to be a "good" State.....looks like allowing Vail, Aspen and Denver to accept NR's fugged you up big time!

Gotta throw Boulder in there too. You are absolutley right. Keep an eye on the Tennessee legislature and don't forget the idiots in DC.

This is what happens when you let a couple of million IDIOTS from CA invade the state. I am a 5th generation native of Colorado, but it is no longer home. I now consider it little more than an eastern suburb of Berkely, San Francisco and Los Angeles. I miss the Colorado of my youth and can not stomach the "modern" Colorado. Some call it progress, but I don't see it that way!

Now it is merely a domecile of refugees from the LAND OF FRUITS, FLAKES and NUTS!!!!

Muzzle loaders are capable of throwing shot? A shotgun doesn't always have shot loaded in it? Technically, with a deer barrel on it, it becomes a slug gun. See where I'm going with this? There may be a way to get around the abused "language". I'm from NY, my 1864 springfield is an assault weapon because it has a bayonet! Yep, it just keeps getting more stupid.

GLW: Here is the definition of a shotgun within the proposed legislation: "A firearm with one or more barrels that is: designed or redesigned, made or remade, or intended to be fired from the shoulder; designed or redesigned, made or remade and intended to use the energy of the explosion in a fixed shotgun shell to fire through a smooth bore either a number of ball shot or a single projectile for each pull of the trigger; and loaded manually by pump action". I see where you are going with this, but I don't think a smoothbore muzzleloader uses a fixed shotgun shell and it is not loaded manually by pump action. Did you notice that this also does not include single shot or semi-automatic shotguns? A muzzleloader rifle is also not a bolt-action rifle. This bill would not deem your 1864 Springfield as an assault weapon because of the bayonet (like it apparently is in NY), it would deem it an ASSAULT WEAPON because it IS A FIREARM THAT IS NOT A HANDGUN, SHOTGUN OR BOLT-ACTION RIFLE. There may be a way to get around the abused language, but we should not have to. Are you willing to risk great civil liability to try and find out? You are 100 correct, this keeps getting more stupid. The question becomes; can we fix stupid?

Even tho CO recognizes MY Carry Permit unlike folks from WA, guess I won't be back to spend my money there.....buncha fuggin Libs done took over another state......I advise my friends in upstate and west state NY to seceed......don't know what to tell Coloradians since the vermin infestation seems to be state wide!

Tom: Thanks for your support. Two of the 7 bills were just voted out of the Senate Committee yesterday, despite MASSIVE opposition. Four have already been voted out of the House (again despite massive public opposition) and have been added to the 3 in Senate Committee. It would not surprise me if they all make it out of committee and are then passed in some form or another in both houses. The effects of all of these various laws are far reaching. I believe that they are punitive toward the law abiding and responsible gun owners, take away the ability of many to defend themselves, will set up many gun free areas just ripe for the pickins', do not address the real issues and have a very chilling effect on the state's economy. Your post just confirmed that last point. Would it be too much to ask you to call Governor Hickenlooper's office and tell him so. It only takes a minute, they are very polite (and swamped) and will tally your sentiment. You do not need to get specific. The number is (303) 866-2471. Interesting point, a couple of weeks ago Joe Biden (yeah, that one) called the Colorado Senate President and lobbied him and 4 other democrats for gun contrtol. Yesterday, the husband of Arizona's Gabby Gifford was testifying in the State Senate for gun control. To my knowledge, neither Biden or Mark Kelly are Colorado residents or registered lobbyists. Just goes to show you to what extremes they will go to in order to force their agenda, both here in Colorado and on the national front. Thanks

The problem is that neither the Gov nor a single Dem in the house or senate believes there will be any political fallout from these bills. Hick came out yesterday and said signing these bills would not affect his reelection efforts. If they were students of history, they would know that after Clinton's "assault weapons" ban, the Dems got abused in the next election. Unfortunately, I don't believe there is anything at this point we can do to stop these bills. I have written and called every single rep and senator as well as the gov. The ambivalence of theses libertards is astounding. We have to start now looking forward and preparing for the next elections. This has to be the priority, to get the idiots out of office and reclaim Colorado. I don't want us to become Kalifonia east.

On a side note, if you are a resident of Colorado, get to Magpul.com and get signed up for your STANDARD round magazines. Magpul is selling and shipping for regular price and you can bypass all the wait time. When they ban the magazines, at least all Coloradans all have all we need.

You may be right. I too have called and e-mailed everyone of them. John Morse is term limited and does not care from that aspect. He is incompetent enough to actually think that he has a chance at a higher office and this is his ticket! Hickenritter also has higher designs. I have made it clear in my communications with all of them that I am not alone and I vote as do my many like-minded friends. Colorado has become the test bed for this issue. You can bet that whatever passes in Colorado is what the feds have pushed and the subsequent federal legislation will mirror Colorado's final result. We do have to start looking forward, but I have not totally given up on common sense and logic just yet, because I think Colorado will be the bellweather state. The implications are too great, we have to keep trying. Thanks for staying in the battle.

These new gun control laws have caused me to move my elk hunts to Utah or Arizona. I've hunted Co. for over 25 years and had planned to bring three of my nephews out there in 2015, thats all changed now, I promised them an elk hunt, I'll make up the difference of the costs out of my pocket to take them to a gun owner friendly state. I loved southern Colorado, had alot of fun hunts, took some nice bulls and Mule deer, too bad Idoits had to mess it up for us, I dohope many more hunters decide to avoid Colorado and make them feel the pinch in their out of state hunting money. Gonna miss ya BuglingElkBabe !
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