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The Pope and Offending the Catholics
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12 Feb 2013 06:26 PM

It is not only the Catholics that have problems, or even any religion in particular it is the people involved in them. How many people have been punished, and put to death in and for the name of a God since the dawn of man. The laws of a God misinterpreted by mistake or on purpose. The Catholic Church has had problems with child abuse, but whose fault is that? It is as in most religions the laws of God and therefore the leaders are not to be questioned. I was raised in the Pentecostal religion, and I saw how the Church could control peoples lives using the name of God to get what they wanted. How they would attempt to control those not even in the religion. They preached he7l fire and bream stone, misquoted the bible to get those in the Church to vote the way the few holier than thou zealots wanted. I was and am proud to be an American, I loved History, I read not only the history books provided by the School, but anything having to do with it, and was encouraged by my Teachers to do so. I learn there was more to our history than what the religious zealots wanted taught. I had to go to Sunday school, there through a Childs eyes I Began to understand God gives us a choice. History teaches the evils man can do in the name of God. We have choices in all we do, those choices are ours and no one else’s , and we will be the only one to answer for those choices. I also loved science; there I learned there are few absolutes. History and Science show things known to be fact today may not be tomorrow and vice reverse. Only a select few have been said to have actually spoken to God. It takes not just a blind faith in God, but also a blind faith in the word of the select few who said they had spoken to that God. In times past to Question those select few, one could be put to death. Shame and being shamed falls in there as well. The church ruled all, they feared Science, and killed those of science. Science called into question the very existence of God, which threatened the church and the power and control it held through the belief in a God. Science showed it was more the faith in the word of the select few men of god, which religion is/was based on, more than the word of a God, few had actually seen. And no undeniable absolute proof to show there was or was not a God. There are those who do the right things because of the word of God, and or the fear of he7l and the desire to go to heaven. And there are those who do the right things or what the church says is right, out of fear of what the church can and will do. There is an evil in man, the need and desire to control others, for the purpose of one or a group, religious or otherwise. The child abuse in the Catholic faith is no different, than that which exist in any other religions. Jim Jones, Waco , or Heavens Gate. Or the many other religious cults around world. Having said all that if you are offended by a joke about your religion because of things that have actually have happened, in it. Don’t get mad at the person who tells the joke, it maybe as it should be. Get mad at your self you may have suspected some thing was wrong and did nothing about it, out of fear. Use your so called faith in God to fix your own crap, then just worrying about keeping your own crap straight, would keep you out of other peoples business, and you won’t have time to be offended. I try the have respect, but if I have a joke I and others may find funny, but a few are offended because it challenges their so called faith, the Constitution still says I have that right. Least the religions zealots want to change that for their purposes.  Be sure your house is spotless before you question mine as far as this religious offending goes.

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12 Feb 2013 06:45 PM
there is nothing a man can do or say that  will not offend someone. I have never nor will I ever be" politically correct".if anyone does not agree  or is offended with what I say my advise is ,get over it or don't. I will not lose any sleep either way.I do not go out of my way to offend anyone but I also will not change to please anyone.and seriously when a pediphile goes out in public wearing robes and a silly arse hat you've gotta expect a little ribbing
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12 Feb 2013 06:54 PM
The thing of it is, a pediphile does not have to wear a robe and a silly ares hat. There are Pediphiles in every religion and walk of life. The Catholic religion is just the biggest, there fore the most publisity. And I might add the Pediphiles in the Catholic church don't kill like the others I mentioned did. Don't think that is a real plus but.
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12 Feb 2013 07:08 PM
Now having said all that, and being an equal opertunity offender. And holding my tongue out of respect. I will respond with what I thought when I saw your post Yote.

(Yote) "he can no longer get it up, he is retiring so the alter boys don't get neglected"

Na they have viagra for that. that can't be it.
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12 Feb 2013 07:20 PM
he could also probly just use his empty wine bottle if push came to shove
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12 Feb 2013 07:26 PM
That ain't even right, now thats a sick thought
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12 Feb 2013 07:29 PM
Clinger (CK) I have to believe that at least in part this thread is a bit of a response to my thread.

First lets clear some air. I was not making an emotional response to Yote. Had I been doing so there would have been more punctuation, as well as some highlighted, or capitalized words.

Just as Yote had the right to post what he did in my thread, so did I have the right to try to keep my thread on subject. Which is the historical significance of the event I cited in my post. So I replied to Yote to try and send that message across the board, no more, no less. Yourself being a student of history, I have to believe that you understand my point.

I guess I should have anticipated some negative remarks towards the Catholic Church, but didn't want to see my thread turned into a bash fest on the Catholic Church.

As far as one of the basic gist's of this thread, I like the old quote, "Just because your offended, doesn't mean your right".
 
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12 Feb 2013 07:32 PM
ckell   sick? yes! but are you offended?
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12 Feb 2013 07:37 PM
Good one Yote
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12 Feb 2013 07:51 PM
LD Potter, I do understand. I laughted when I saw Yotes post, I did not give the reply I just did in this one because I understood and respected what your thread was about. Thus My long drawn out explaination in this one as to show I am not picking on any one Religion, and as you know most any thing goes (there are limits) on a thread I post. So this is an outlet for those who do not care about the Historical Significance of this. This is the frist time in 598 years this has happen, what precedence will this set in the further.
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12 Feb 2013 07:53 PM
Posted By yote on 12 Feb 2013 08:32 PM
ckell   sick? yes! but are you offended?
Nope, just not a picture I really wanted in my mind. Would that be holy crap on the bottle

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12 Feb 2013 07:56 PM
Posted By ckell on 12 Feb 2013 08:53 PM
Posted By yote on 12 Feb 2013 08:32 PM
ckell   sick? yes! but are you offended?
Nope, just not a picture I really wanted in my mind.


UH... And I thought that G1 was the only one good at that "picture in the mind thing".
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12 Feb 2013 08:01 PM
Holly posted this on the other Pope post " I heard and saw the pictures on the news that lightning struck the top of the Vatican twice after he announced his retirement"
If we aren't carfull it might strick here.
Nope Gopheer eye doesn't have a complete monopoly.
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12 Feb 2013 08:11 PM
A koala was sitting in a gum tree smoking a joint?


cid:76F4ED6736FF473F854F6BF4DD994DDA@earlfipho9c355when a little lizard walked past, looked up and said, 'Hey Koala! What are you doing?'

The koala said, 'Smoking a joint, come up and have some.'



So the little lizard climbed up and sat next to the koala where they enjoyed a few joints. After a while the little lizard said that his mouth was 'dry' and that he was going to get a drink from the river.

The little lizard was so stoned that he leaned over too far and fell into the river.
A crocodile saw this and swam over to the little lizard and helped him to the side. Then he asked the little lizard, 'What's the matter with you?'

The little lizard explained to the crocodile that he had been sitting with the koala in the tree, smoking a joint, but got too stoned and fell into the river while taking a drink..

The crocodile said that he had to check this out and walked into the rain forest, found the tree where the koala was sitting finishing a joint. The crocodile looked up and said,


'Hey you!'

So the koala looked down at him and said,

'Shiiiiiiiiiiit dude...
How much water did you drink!?'



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12 Feb 2013 08:36 PM

a man went into a catholic church for confession,he kneels in the booth and says fogive me father I have lied and cheated on my wife.  the priest says," go say 5 hail marys  and your sins will be forgiven." the man goes home happy.   two weeks later he comes back kneels in the both and says father forgive me I have committed a  robbery, the priest says ,"go say 10 hail marys and your sins will be forgiven." the man goes home happy. a few weeks go by and the maN ONCE AGAIN COMES FOR CONFESSION. this time the priest is no where to be found. the man, feeling guilty doesn't know what to do. just then an alter boy walks by so the man says," hey kid what does the father give for sodomy?

  the alter boy answers,"he usually gives me 10 bucks!"

so goes the church, so goes the nation
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13 Feb 2013 07:02 AM
Since I've never been politically correct about anything, especially religion. I didn't make my post in the other thread to belittle Catholicism as a religion; but to point out that it (along with the Mormon Church) is one of the largest money making enterprises in the world. I personally feel that no church should be tax exempt, and as Charlie pointed out, I don't believe any religion is free from pedophiles or any other criminal actions for that matter. I simply delight in every opportunity provided to excoriate any and all religions.
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13 Feb 2013 08:17 AM
1 It isn't only the Catholic Church that has had individuals in a place of power that have come under scrutiny for sexual abuse.

Most importantly all religion is based on faith. Rt look up that word. Because at some time in your life you will find yourself putting "your faith" in the hands of a doctor, nurse, lawyer or etc. Do I belittle you that faith? Of course not. So why do you belittle mine or others faith in God? But that all matters little because come a day you'll find out who was right.
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13 Feb 2013 08:52 AM
I don't belittle your faith in your God, I just question the validity of such faith based on superstitious teaching of man. Hell, you can believe in the Easter Bunny if you want to, that's your right; but I'd have to have some type of proof that such a critter exists in order for me to believe in it.
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13 Feb 2013 11:45 AM
"but I'd have to have some type of proof that such a critter exists in order for me to believe in it"

Oh sure... So you don't believe in Bigfoot either???
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13 Feb 2013 04:05 PM
Not until I actually see one.......do you?????
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