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Last Post 26 Jan 2013 10:46 AM by holly. 8 Replies.
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25 Jan 2013 06:54 PM
Agenda 21 at its best .And I am stupid for what I say .

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25 Jan 2013 07:35 PM

sorry folks.  can't help myself.  nahc version of a member at the other place.  nah, that's mean to the other one.

Agenda 21 at its best .And I am stupid for what I say .  yes, you are.

ok, since there are NO federal agenda 21 laws, you have acknowledged that after being proven wrong, how does something with a federal orginization have anything to do with agenda 21?

Federal Emergency Manamement Agency

the article does NOT mention agenda 21.  explain how you tie this to agenda 21.  and yes, I remember what you have said the basics are for agenda 21.  larger groups in smaller places.

also, why you are at it, please explain why people should be able to rebuild a house/home, in the same spot that has been known to flood?  for the same price.  pretty sure people here were upset when the people in new orleans were getting money to rebuild their homes. 

insanity - doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

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25 Jan 2013 08:59 PM
Dang Holly, it doesn't seem as though your helping your cause on this one.

You and I agree on many things, but through my own research I just can't connect the dots that you are concerning agenda 21. Perhaps you can  make the connection for me between FEMA, and Agenda 21.

As TLC pointed out, Agenda 21 is not even mentioned in the article you posted.

I may be missing things, but as I understand it Agenda 21 is a non-binding article that is being promoted/implemented in some regions. While being aggressively rejected in others. As I understand it, it's up to local governments to accept, and/or reject the proposals of Agenda 21. Agenda 21 is by no means a mandate on America.

This seems to be an ongoing debate, and I for one want to see the truth of it. Any info that anyone can provide is more than welcome.
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25 Jan 2013 09:14 PM

how dare you agree with me.  fuggin liberal.........

Agenda 21 in the United States

The United States is a signatory country to Agenda 21, but because Agenda 21 is not a treaty, the Senate was unable to hold a formal debate or vote on it, nor was it ratified by the executive branch. Several congressmen and senators, however, have spoken in Congress in support of Agenda 21; these include Representative Nancy Pelosi, Senator John Kerry, and Senator Harry Reid.[11] do you need to know anything else???

In the United States, over 528 cities are members of ICLEI, an international sustainability organization that helps to implement the Agenda 21 and Local Agenda 21 concepts across the world. The United States has nearly half of the ICLEI's global membership of 1,200 cities promoting sustainable development at a local level.[12] The United States also has one of the most comprehensively documented Agenda 21 status reports.[13]

[edit] Opposition in the United States

During the last decade, opposition to Agenda 21 has increased within the United States at the local, state, and federal levels[citation needed]. The Republican National Committee has adopted a resolution opposing Agenda 21, and the Republican Party platform stated that "We strongly reject the U.N. Agenda 21 as erosive of American sovereignty."[14][15] Several state and local governments have considered or passed motions and legislation opposing Agenda 21.[4][16][17][18][19][20]Alabama became the first state to prohibit government participation in Agenda 21, but Arizona rejected a similar bill.[5]

Activists, some of whom have been associated with the Tea Party movement by the The New York Times and The Huffington Post, have said that Agenda 21 is a conspiracy by the United Nations to deprive individuals of property rights.[4][20] Columnists in The Atlantic have linked opposition to Agenda 21 to the property rights movement in the United States.[20][21] A poll of 1,300 United States voters by the American Planning Association found that 9% supported Agenda 21, 6% opposed it, and 85% thought they didn't have enough information to form an opinion.[20]


you want to read all of this, go for it.  brain started hurting after about a third of it.

http://www.un.org/esa/agenda21/natlinfo/countr/usa/natur.htm

have to do all the work for you.......pathetic.  look holly, picking on LD.  then again, maybe not.

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25 Jan 2013 09:48 PM

I am in the 85%.
Agenda 21 in the United StatesThe United States is a signatory country to Agenda 21, but because Agenda 21 is not a treaty, the Senate was unable to hold a formal debate or vote on it, nor was it ratified by the executive branch. Several congressmen and senators, however, have spoken in Congress in support of Agenda 21; these include Representative Nancy Pelosi, Senator John Kerry, and Senator Harry Reid.[11]

In the United States, over 528 cities are members of ICLEI, an international sustainability organization that helps to implement the Agenda 21 and Local Agenda 21 concepts across the world. The United States has nearly half of the ICLEI's global membership of 1,200 cities promoting sustainable development at a local level.[12] The United States also has one of the most comprehensively documented Agenda 21 status reports.[13]

[edit] Opposition in the United StatesDuring the last decade, opposition to Agenda 21 has increased within the United States at the local, state, and federal levels[citation needed]. The Republican National Committee has adopted a resolution opposing Agenda 21, and the Republican Party platform stated that "We strongly reject the U.N. Agenda 21 as erosive of American sovereignty."[14][15] Several state and local governments have considered or passed motions and legislation opposing Agenda 21.[4][16][17][18][19][20] Alabama became the first state to prohibit government participation in Agenda 21, but Arizona rejected a similar bill.[5]

Activists, some of whom have been associated with the Tea Party movement by the The New York Times and The Huffington Post, have said that Agenda 21 is a conspiracy by the United Nations to deprive individuals of property rights.[4][20] Columnists in The Atlantic have linked opposition to Agenda 21 to the property rights movement in the United States.[20][21] A poll of 1,300 United States voters by the American Planning Association found that 9% supported Agenda 21, 6% opposed it, and 85% thought they didn't have enough information to form an opinion
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25 Jan 2013 09:54 PM
The 1st Amendment insures our Right to speak out when it or our other Rights are Transgressed. The 2nd insures the 1st. Native Texan
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26 Jan 2013 09:45 AM
When I first heard about Agenda 21, several years ago, the only information I needed to be opposed to it was the fact that Pelosi, Kerry, and Reid supported it, and that it originated in the UN. Everything else is secondary, as I will always be opposed to any thing that originates in the UN, and anything that those three stooges support!!!
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26 Jan 2013 10:08 AM
Ron I am with you on that. Anything the Liberal Left thinks is a good thing, and the UN came up with, more than likly is not that good of a thing. The Liberals likely are useing differant places to test how it flys and make adjustments/ refineing it, so as to be more acceptable to a larger group. The Liberals are working on making this Country more Socielist, and some where down the line Agenda 21 may fit in there.
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26 Jan 2013 10:46 AM
Well LD I will make it easy for you .I put the agenda 21 part in it for one reason .And as you can see that TLC has jumped all over it .As you and others know he jumps all over stuff I put on here .That part was all in fun .And it worked didn't it .

This more comes down to more Government involvement in peoples personal lives .

This goes some in the line with the couple that bought 5 acre plot next to a lake in Idaho to built their retirement home .When they started building it the EPA came in and stopped them .They said it was a wet land zone and they could build it .Because under the wet land act that they were tring to use to stop them made it clear that the land had to be under water for 3 months or longer to be declared wet lands .The EPA lost in court ,and the people are now retired and living in their home .

Just more Government intrusion into personal rights .

Dose this explain it LD.
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