boomer1
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| 14 Jan 2013 05:08 PM |
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Sounds like you learned morals without the corporal punishment. Once again that is what is lacking in the majority of the kids today. You don't have to be religous to learn morals. I was brought up in a christian home where we at church every Sunday. My wife and I haven't been to a church service with our kids in over 10 years and my kids have a hell of lot of morals compared to some of my kids friends. We quit going to church after my wife and I and two other couples went to the school board,{1}*****ing about the very problem that we are seeing in the kids today. We were made, by the school board, out to be the problem. Needless to say the majority of the school board members go to the same church that we go to. We were looked down upon and treated alot different after our meeting with the school board. Bunch of hypocrite a-holes. A person can live a quote christian life without going to church every Sunday. |
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ckell
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| 14 Jan 2013 06:21 PM |
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Maybe not where many of you grew up and went to to school, but where I went to school guns in a gun rack in a pickup in the school parking lot were common. Yet with all those guns there were no mass shootings. Mag cap has changed, and simi-auto was not that common, but for the most part guns have not change. They still shoot one bullet with each trigger pull, and somone must pull that trigger.
If guns have not changed, the poeple who pull the trigger must have. Why have they changed what caused the change. Some of us had Parents who spanked us more than others. Still those who were spanked did not committ mass murder, nor those who were not.
But all of us recieved some sort of punhishment for not following the rules or doing as we were told. We were taught there is a right and wrong, good and bad. Some call those things morals and think nothing more about it. But there are two sides on the understanding of morals. One side says they come from the belief in God. The other side say it has nothing to do with God, you can have morals without the belief in God. And instead of concentrateing on the lost of morals as a problem. They concentrate on Religion and the teaching of or about God (Religion) as the problem. The teaching about God is a personel thing, and best taught at home and church. But morals and discipline are a differant story. That is what they should be talking about, not gun control. And stop seeing and making talk about morals as/or a religious thing. An as long as the punishment however it is done and is not an abussive thing let people do it as theysee fit. |
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yote
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| 14 Jan 2013 06:26 PM |
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boomer1 I would go a step further and state that iot is possible to become a BETTER christian BECAUSE you refuse to go to a certain church.It's not where you go it's what you believe |
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boomer1
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| 14 Jan 2013 07:02 PM |
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yote! 100% true. |
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rthomas4
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| 15 Jan 2013 09:37 AM |
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My deceased wife's twin sister (the beitch) used to yell and threaten her little porch monkey brat, but never went through with the threats. It only took one day with me for him to understand what an azz whoopin was, and that I didn't threaten, I made promises and kept 'em. Unfortunately after my wife died, and I no longer had any influence in his upbringing, he did become a juvenile delinquent. I could have straightened him out if he'd been around me. With Travis, all I've ever had to do since he was about 3 or 4, was just give him "the look". Everyone who meets him comments on what a well mannered and well behaved kid he is. Like I said, I don't believe in yelling and threatening, just make a promise and stick with it and the kids will understand what it means to misbehave and the results of their actions. |
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yote
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| 15 Jan 2013 07:13 PM |
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growing up if we did something wrong we'd get a arse whoopin.we were also taught to respect our elders and to answer with a ,"yes sir ,no sir yes maam or a no maam." we were expected to say please and thank you and if we didn't we got a slap to the back of the head.we were taught not to disrespect others and in turn to expect same from others.basically just MANNERS.we were expected to do the yard work and chores around the house,in turn we got a weekly allowance, the main reason for this was to teach us the falue of money. you don't see a lot of that kind of child raising anymore.children today think money grows on trees and they should be given everything thier heart desires |
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ahoffman2
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| 15 Jan 2013 09:15 PM |
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Kinda sounds to me like you city kids had it kinda easy! |
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yote
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| 16 Jan 2013 06:48 AM |
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ahoff,lol. I learned a long time ago that you can throw a rock in any direction and hit some arsehoa who will tell you how much harder they had(have) it then you do.no disrespect meant ,I 'm sure you when you went to school(IF YOU HAD THAT OPPURTUNITY) YOU HAD to walk uphill ,both ways, through a blizzard,in your bare feet.  |
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rthomas4
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| 16 Jan 2013 06:59 AM |
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What's an allowance? When I was a kid, I was allowed to live another day for doing the chores I was expected to do!!!!!! Is that what you were describing, Charlie?????? |
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holly
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| 16 Jan 2013 11:03 AM |
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We had to do the chores and no money .My parents were raising 7 kids .Could not afford that .And yes we had to walk 2 miles to school .No snow just rain .The kids today have to have a buss to go the same distance . |
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rthomas4
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| 16 Jan 2013 11:07 AM |
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I didn't have to walk to school, but did have to walk to the bus stop. Today, the bus will stop and then travel less than 5o yards to the damn school!!!!!! |
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ckell
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| 16 Jan 2013 11:37 AM |
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By todays stanards we were all lucky live through our childhood. Most of us for the most part look back now on our childhood with fond rememories, and are thankful for the disipline our parents gave us. But how many actually felt that way then, sure we loved and repected out parents, but we may not have always liked them. |
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ahoffman2
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| 16 Jan 2013 03:08 PM |
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No yote, we had shoes, high topped work boots! When we got thru with mornin' chores, we had to wash all the cow, pig, chicken crap off'um before we wore'um to school. We only had to walk about 3/8 mi. to catch the school bus, however, it was not uncommen, to get screwed up on chores, miss the bus and then have to run the 3 1/2 mi. to school, and hope ya weren't late!
As rt asked--What allowance? We were workin' as soon as we could crawl! Ma would set us down in between rows of corn, or other veggys, and ya pulled weeds around the corn or veggys. As soon as ya could walk, they stuck a big ol' "ethnic" hoe or pitch fork in your hands, and ya was eather weedin' them corn patches or garden, or pitchin' hay. All in all, it was a good life, every kid should have to grow up that way! Of course I didn't think so at the time! |
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ahoffman2
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| 16 Jan 2013 03:12 PM |
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And yes, I did get my hinney beat regularly, both by parents and teachers! The worst beatin' I ever got, was given to me by my Mom, useing a 7 ft. Bull Snake.
Was just as funny then, altho it hurt like heck, as it is today----but---thats another story!
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ckell
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| 16 Jan 2013 06:34 PM |
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Ahoffman you didn't throw it on her did ya.
most of us grew up with some kind of chores to do, if we had to much energy our parents had somthing for us is to do, if we were bored our parents had somthing for us to do. They didn't give us pill to calm us down, they could use that energy for something constructive. Except on the worse day we did not stay in the house, get to noisy in the house outside you went. If what you did was bad enough the neighber could beat you butt, then your mom and dad would finish it. If you broke somthing you worked it off, one way or another. You said yes mam/sir and No mam/ sir, thank you best be said for any thing. That is missing now. Everybody knew the Cops and their kids, they were realy the good guys, they could do the paper work or let your parents beat your butt, most let the parents handle it, and they did handle it. You could fist fight without every LE around getting involved, many a thing got settled that way, no lenghty costly court anything. In the end the two of you had a much better repect for each other, many a friendship started that way.
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yote
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| 16 Jan 2013 07:49 PM |
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ahoff , I'm sorry you didn't get an allowance and begrudge me because I did.my parents were able to afford it and for that I am gratefull. however I do think it is a great way to teach a child to be responsible with money.we were expected to use that money for such things as buying lunch at school they let us spend it anyway we chose but if we blew it on candy or toys or soda(wich I often did)  we didn't get to eat lunch. I also worked on a farm As a kid only differance is my parents didn't own one so I didn't start till I was ten. got payed a buck an hour when I started.worked there every summer till I graduated high school.had to walk a couple miles to work and left before the sun came up and got home most nights after dark.when I was old enough to drive I worked after school(didn't do the morning thing because my parents felt school was more important, again for this I am gratefull ). point is I did all the same chit. moved pipe, picked rock(and there was a lot of rock in those fields),bucked hay, fixed fence, milked cows ,slopped pigs. when I was 12 I was running a swather ,next year baling hay. we had to dehorn and casterate the cattle .now and then we'd slaughter one and butcher it. by the time I was 14. I was buying all my own clothes and providing most of the meat my family ate . and I wouldn't trade one minute of it. anyhow,all I'M saying is just because I didn't have the EXACT SAME upbringing as you, don't tell me how easy I had it. |
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ahoffman2
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| 17 Jan 2013 12:36 AM |
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Heck yote, don't be sorry!! I didn't know that I was suppose to get one! Fact is, in our small community, I don't know or heard of any of the kids gettin' one. But then again, durein' them war years, not many had money that they could afford to give thier kids.
how'd'ya guess ckell? I found that big ol' bull snake, while I was suppose to be weedin' corn. I stuck'im in the bag that I was suppose to put corn into, when I got thru weedin', and ran up to the house to show Mom. Unfortinantly for the both of us, well no, countin' that snake, the 3 of us, when I got up to the house, Mom was asleep on the ol' army cot, that we used for a couch. I snuck up on her and dumped that snake on her belly. DURN, she sure was quick! I ran like the dickens, but she was right behind me, whoopin' the dickens outa me with that poor snake!
Naaa, if spankin' was gonna make us kids aggresive and depressed, I'd a been the poster child!
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rthomas4
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| 17 Jan 2013 09:24 AM |
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Luckily we were row crop farmers, and the only time we raised any livestock was for the purpose of butchering. Both of my parents had full time jobs outside of the home, so I had house chores to do, on top of the field chores. I was lucky in that I was running a tractor at 10, but I still had to walk the rows and pull weeds out of the soybeans and corn. I was unlucky in the fact that the tractor I had to operate was an old John Deere model 60 with a hand clutch. I didn't get to run the Ford tractor 'til I was 12. We did plant peas for people to come and pick and pay or I'd pick and they'd pay more. That was income for my grandmother and me, along with the peanuts I pulled and picked off and sold. That's how I earned the money I used to get my first semi-automatic shotgun, and since I didn't have quite enough my dad kicked in the difference and I got it for Christmas when I was 12. When I graduated from high school and left home for college I swore I'd never grub in the dirt or do any type of farming or planting ever again. Funny, 'cause now I love working my food plots every year, and really enjoy getting on the Massey-Ferguson and keeping the fire lines cut and fence rows mowed. |
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Lunkerdog
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| 17 Jan 2013 01:37 PM |
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RT4, we used to own a 1949A with a hand clutch, You could get in trouble in a hurry with those old rigs if you weren't paying attention. I used to skid trees for a few years before we sold our timber. We sold it to a John Deere collector 4 or 5 years ago.
I was raised in the city, but was lucky that my Grandfather was a member of a hunting camp that had a 100 acre wild rice lake on the property. As a kid I was given a .22, and a 20 gauge on consecutive Christmas's. Those were the only guns that were given to me. When I was 14 I bought my first deer rifle with the money I earned picking wild rice. The next year I upgraded to a 12 gauge with my rice money.
In town Grandpa's property was two corner lots. His home was on one, he planted a garden on the other. By no means were we farmers, but I did get plenty of time in the garden as a kid.
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