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It proves a point the anti-gunners, do not want to admit. It does not go along with their, making all gun owners as being dumb, stupid, ignorant, haters of all who do not subscribe to their leberal agenda.

In the past couple of months there has been two cases of a concealed carrier stopping a crook from robbing a bussness. Both in the same city. The local cover it, but you won't see it in any nalt news

Check this one out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ooa9...e=youtu.be

Posted By PRAIRIEDOGGER on 07 Jan 2013 04:27 PM
In the past couple of months there has been two cases of a concealed carrier stopping a crook from robbing a bussness. Both in the same city. The local cover it, but you won't see it in any nalt news

Good point Prairdogger. I don't know how many of you watch the 5 on Fox, or know who Bob is on there. But in a debate about gun control, he brought up a satistic that said some 5000 people a day protect themselves in home invasions with a gun. He then went on to say, yes it happens, but ask can any of you name more than just a few of the people who are amoung those 5000, he said show me where those 5000 were protected by guns. It was then pointed out the MSM did not cover such things the local media may. It was then pointed out to him, that it was tipical liberal, to being up or out such stats, then continue to ask for more and more verifcation of facts, and each time they are shown, ask for more and more absolutes.
Few things are absolute, and they know that. There is a dought in so many things, reasonable dought is what we look for in legal situations. They want reasonable dought when it benfits, them and their agenda, and beyond a shadow of a dought when it does not, or benifits others or their agenda when it is not in line with theirs.
If they can not win on facts, they resort to attempts to discredit, berate, distract from the facts in any way they can, name calling such as hater, bigot, stupid, ignorant, they attack the person, not the fact. Any way to change the subject or distract from the fact. If stats show 5000 people a day stop a home invastions, robbery what ever, with a gun then name them, and how when and where and why.   

It proves, as usual, that none of you care about the truth if it disagrees with your beliefs.
Did anyone, including you, Cash, actually read the Snopes thread? What was printed above was the original- NOT the fact-checked Snopes article.
Read the last paragraph- conveniently omitted so as to create more uproar from folks like- well, like y'all...
"In general, the San Antonio theater shooting received little coverage outside of local news media, primarily because ir didn't include any of the factors that typically propel such stories from the local to the national news: it was not an especially horrific crime (or part of a larger crime), it did not involve any deaths or woundings of large numbers of people, and it featured no prominent people; it was a shooting incident in which one person was injured.(in fact, he didn't shoot his girlfriend... one person in the theater was wounded )
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"If they can not win on facts, they resort to attempts to discredit, berate, distract from the facts in any way they can, "

True enough. Glad we agree.

Why nothing in the national reports?

Because it's not their definition of a tragedy, and they can do nothing to sensationalize, or exploit this story.

YH  one person in the theator was wounded  only because soneone was packing and able to put him down.THAT IS THE ONLY REASON IT WASN'T A HORRIFIC CRIME. are you actually saying it's o.k to shoot someone as long as you  limit it to just the one?

yote-
I don't disagree with that statement, and if that was the focus of the article (and this thread), I'd simply say- nice job, deputy (who, I might add, was actually working as security at the time.)
But, alas, that is NOT the case- the purpose of this article was to inflame the Second Amendment supporters against the "Left Wing" MSM- and to do it with a partial unveiling of facts combined with a deliberate omission.
Pathetic.

who gives a chit if he killed his girlfriend or not he was trying to kill innocent people.and who gives a chit if the deputy was on duty or not she saw a crime  in progress and ended it

Wow.
You are here

                                                                                                                      my point is here.

In your opinion, as this was a good guy(girl) with a gun wounds an arse hole with a gun, does this warrant National news coverage?

if the media was fair and balanced and the way guns are being portrayed as evil I absolutly think it warrants national news coverage

Posted By yote on 07 Jan 2013 08:04 PM
if the media was fair and balanced and the way guns are being portrayed as evil I absolutly think it warrants national news coverage

I agree with yote, and YH normally no it would not warrent national news coverage, nor should many of the other shootings that do make it onto the national news. This shooting does not meet their agenda, it shows where if someone in CO, had a gun that tragedy may have been stop as well. Or if just one of the teachers at Sandy Hook had a gun, that tragedy may not have happen. It was ask today by a liberal, who supports gun control, to show where people haveing guns can stop such tragic evens as the two above. Well here is one event, but when presented it is said well how does that rate national coverage. Well the Anti-gun people ask for proof, now it ain't good enough or is being of dramatized, and taken out of context. They do not want justifed self defence shoots, some 5000 a day by their own account, recognized, only the few where they can point to and say see if we had gun control that would not have happened. Even if it were only 1/8th of that 5000 a day estimate it would still be a much larger number,some 625 saved by self defence, than those killed by a crazed, or evil gunman. 

I agree..why not show how an idiot kills a bunch of people, and at the same time show how one brave soul can deal with a problem with a weapon as well...fair is fair...balance the news stories.

So... a couple of the National News headlines you'd like to see, to ensure fair and balanced reporting....

"American Airlines 747 lands safely at La Guardia after incident-free flight"
"House fire averted by proper battery replacement in smoke detector"
"Accident at corner of Fifth and Lexington in New York claims life of '89 Corolla"

The author cites Snopes, and asks the question "Why wasn't this reported in the national reports". Even Snopes, in the article cited, says it isn't national news fodder. Fox (Faux) News didn't report it as a national story, either.
It just wasn't that newsworthy.

What do you mean it wasn't national newsworthy. She thwarted a possible Auora, Co. The underware bomber that was caught plus the guy with explosives in his shoes made national news. No tragedy happened in those stories. So by saying that this isn't national news it is because it is just another common everyday event. 
  
I liked the comment made by someone else who turned around Bob Costas's comment about if gun control would only save one life it would be worth it. It would be worth it if just one life was saved by someone with a gun.

I think the NRA would benifit if it would do more to see that these kind of stories did make national news.

 

 

What does this have to do with legal fire arms ownership by law abiding ordinary citizens ...

Criminals come in all colors, stopping criminals from being criminals is impossible... so why disarm law abiding people.

I know... YH agrees that those nasty scarey assault weapons should be banned... after all he's not interested in them or for that matter any semi automatic killing machine!

Doing that sure will make me safe from government tyranny or those that he wishes to entitle with immunity.

Some people don't get it and no matter what you say or do, will change their block headed, self centered attitude.

We now have thousands and thousands of laws on the books not enforced or  followed by criminals... so what's the best thing to do... make everyone into a criminal.

Posted By YH on 08 Jan 2013 04:40 AM
So... a couple of the National News headlines you'd like to see, to ensure fair and balanced reporting....

"American Airlines 747 lands safely at La Guardia after incident-free flight"
"House fire averted by proper battery replacement in smoke detector"
"Accident at corner of Fifth and Lexington in New York claims life of '89 Corolla"

The author cites Snopes, and asks the question "Why wasn't this reported in the national reports". Even Snopes, in the article cited, says it isn't national news fodder. Fox (Faux) News didn't report it as a national story, either.
It just wasn't that newsworthy.

well since there is no agenda to ban air travel,smoked detectors or 89 corollas I fail to see what this has to do with the price of tea in china.

YH, the point is that the MSM never fails to take advantage of any negative gun related crime in order to promote the anti-gun agenda; yet they also never cover the positive news where guns are used to prevent a crime. Maybe this particular incident doesn't tell all of the facts, but did the Sandy Hook news coverage tell all of the truth and the facts in that incident? If the media is going to present one view of any current event, it should also make an effort to present the opposing view with equal coverage. That is one of the basics of ethical journalism I was taught in Journalism school. Today's media fails miserably at following the traditional rules, ethics, and standards of proper journalism. I will also say that I only watch ABC news, but read Fox news reports; and I've noticed that Fox at least provides opposing views the opportunity to express themselves whereas ABC tries to stifle views not in line with their editorialism.

"American Airlines 747 lands safely at La Guardia after incident-free flight"

Are you insinuating that a potential mass murder being thwarted by a law abiding citizen with a gun is an "incident free" event, and is not news worthy?