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04 Jan 2013 06:58 PM
"The BIG Lie" The phrase was also used in a report prepared during the war by the United States Office of Strategic Services in describing Hitler's psychological profile:[5][6] His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it.[7]
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04 Jan 2013 07:10 PM
Here's a harsh reality for all of us... given the conditions in Germany in the early 1930's, it's pretty much a gimme that most of us would have voted for Hitler, as well.
The REAL truth of the matter is- most people don't want the truth. They want what they want to hear.
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04 Jan 2013 07:13 PM
Hell, Obama got elected and then reelected using the same propaganda tactics. So, I have no doubt that yes, many of us would have. FDR's progressive party followers most definitely would have!
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04 Jan 2013 07:39 PM
Please. The Conservative disinformation corps has no equal.
The REAL truth of the matter is- most people don't want the truth. They want what they want to hear.
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05 Jan 2013 01:28 AM
Regarding conservative disinformation - Yes Hitler was such a nice gentle and benevolent leader of Germany as history has proven. Why just because that lady lived through it does not mean she has even a vague clue as to what happened there.


Please note sarcasm is often used.

As for disinformation, it is the liberals with their lamestream media cohorts that distort facts and invent stories to spread their propaganda.
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05 Jan 2013 04:12 AM
Is there a reason some of you refuse to open your eyes to the fact that BOTH ends of the political spectrum use sleight of hand, fabrications and out-and-out lies?
The REAL truth of the matter is- most people don't want the truth. They want what they want to hear.
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05 Jan 2013 04:21 AM
Still difficult for  Canadians to get over the fact the US is not ruled by Great Britain... we chose to be independent from them along with our thinking.

Even though our Constitution is over 200 years old... it's light years ahead of any on this planet!

We believe in INDIVIDUAL freedom... not the mob mentality of Democracy.

I understand those living under those conditions since birth, know no difference.

"The BIG Lie" The phrase was also used in a report prepared during the war by the United States Office of Strategic Services in describing Hitler's psychological profile:[5][6] His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it.[7]
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05 Jan 2013 04:49 AM
So- if you agree with individual freedoms rather than the "mob mentality", can I assume that you are AOK with Gay marriage? After all- that's an individual freedom...
Besides- what about "We, the people"? It's not "I, the person"...
The REAL truth of the matter is- most people don't want the truth. They want what they want to hear.
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05 Jan 2013 05:23 AM
Posted By YH on 05 Jan 2013 05:49 AM
So- if you agree with individual freedoms rather than the "mob mentality", can I assume that you are AOK with Gay marriage? After all- that's an individual freedom...
Besides- what about "We, the people"? It's not "I, the person"...

I think you'll find that most of us Libertarians could care less with your personal sexual preferences are. What ever you do as consenting adults, in the privacy of your home, is your business. I do  have  a problem when people want to have some sort of special privilege.

What about we the people? If you can't understand the premise of freedom and protection for individuals ... there's absolutely no sense of explaining it you, you wouldn't understand what America and being an American is all about. Let me just say... without us you wouldn't enjoy the freedoms you now have.
"The BIG Lie" The phrase was also used in a report prepared during the war by the United States Office of Strategic Services in describing Hitler's psychological profile:[5][6] His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it.[7]
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05 Jan 2013 08:48 AM
Is marriage a "special privilege" that only us heterosexuals should have?

Funny- it seems every time I back you guys into a corner, you either swing the "We could kick your a$$" club or the "Oh, you wouldn't understand" line.
The REAL truth of the matter is- most people don't want the truth. They want what they want to hear.
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05 Jan 2013 09:27 AM
Marriage is and has always been the union between a man and a woman. So why do you believe this is wrong and should be changed?

Homosexuals living together have never been considered married at any time in the past... why is  civil union not enough?

What do they really want?

Again we are talking about a special group, wanting special privileges and rights.

Your not backing me into any corner... and I don't care what you gays do in your lives... the problem arises when you  demand everyone accept your live styles.


"The BIG Lie" The phrase was also used in a report prepared during the war by the United States Office of Strategic Services in describing Hitler's psychological profile:[5][6] His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it.[7]
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05 Jan 2013 09:37 AM
Marriage is a thing enjoyed by yes Heterosexuals. But Gay is not Natural, it is a birth defect and is just a small precentage, much like all other birth defects, and should not be justifed as a Natural act in any form. Nor condemed, no more than any other freak of nature birth defect.
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05 Jan 2013 09:39 AM
if you are a proponent of individual rights, how does this effect (affect?) you and your rights?
And- are you saying that a Civil Union is the same as a marriage?
This is not a "Special Privilege", unless it can ONLY be between a man and a woman. Then YOU are the special group, wanting special privileges.
Good one about "you gays", btw. I wonder if any of you will ever clue in to the facts that:
1) supporting gay marriage does not equate with being gay, any more than supporting aboriginal rights makes me a First Nation (indian to you) or supporting women's rights gives me a uterus.
2) it isn't really an insult when I could care less if people thought I was gay. Or First Nation. Or female.
The REAL truth of the matter is- most people don't want the truth. They want what they want to hear.
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05 Jan 2013 09:58 AM
i look at marriage more as a punishment than a privilege
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05 Jan 2013 09:59 AM
How do you know my wife?
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05 Jan 2013 10:06 AM
you must be my brother in law
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05 Jan 2013 10:09 AM
That you, Quasimodo?
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05 Jan 2013 10:14 AM
ckell-
I don't believe it could be classified as a birth defect- like, say, abject stupidity.
Now, that said, would you also forbid two people with Down's Syndrome from marrying?
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05 Jan 2013 10:28 AM
Posted By YH on 05 Jan 2013 10:39 AM
if you are a proponent of individual rights, how does this effect (affect?) you and your rights?

It doesn't

And- are you saying that a Civil Union is the same as a marriage?

It's not? I always thought CU was for homosexuals and Marriage was for heterosexuals!
So what's the difference?

This is not a "Special Privilege", unless it can ONLY be between a man and a woman. Then YOU are the special group, wanting special privileges.

I thought it was ones right to be bonded by law with a heterosexual mate... I'm interested to hear why marriage should not be allowed only by heterosexuals. and what marriage means to you.

Good one about "you gays", btw.

 I wonder if any of you will ever clue in to the facts that:
1) supporting gay marriage does not equate with being gay, any more than supporting aboriginal rights makes me a First Nation (indian to you) or supporting women's rights gives me a uterus.
2) it isn't really an insult when I could care less if people thought I was gay. Or First Nation. Or female.

I was  under the impression you are gay... you should be proud to be who you are...lol  Stand up... come out of the closet!

Again ... I will say ...I don't care what gays do in the privacy of their homes.
The term Marriage has been used to describe the union between a man and woman for centuries, why does it now have to be used for homosexuals instead of the term Civil Unions asused today?

 This is something that has interested me for many years now.. please explain.

I believe this is only another way, in their attempt to destroy the religious meaning of marriage by those that are anti-religion.
 
My guess is that you are either agnostic or an atheist
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"The BIG Lie" The phrase was also used in a report prepared during the war by the United States Office of Strategic Services in describing Hitler's psychological profile:[5][6] His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it.[7]
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05 Jan 2013 03:20 PM
Well, this Agnostic simply views marriage as a tax necessity and a religious expectation. Man was not intended to be monogamous, and woman was meant to be bred by the strongest and the fittest in order to strengthen the species. Eliminate the religious aspects and most humans would probably just live together, then marriage would only be important for the tax benefits received. Maybe I'm incorrect, but I see the gay marriage debate as being more about tax status more than any other reason. I don't believe that being homosexual is abnormal, learned, or a chosen decision; I honestly believe it's a matter of being reincarnated into the wrong body, but I don't believe that justifies using marriage in order to evade tax responsibilities. Then again, I don't believe that Churches should be exempt from paying property and income taxes, either.
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