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29 Dec 2012 04:47 PM
I have been told that i need to train my dogs using a "place board". Why? What purpose does it serve?
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31 Dec 2012 01:40 PM
Depends on what you are training them for.

I use a place board/mat to teach my dog that sit means sit until given another command. I also "place" as a command to go to the mat and sit when I'm working alone with her in the field, throwing stand alone marks.
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08 Jan 2013 01:32 PM
To my dog, "SIT!" means to sit there and stay til released. "Kennel!" means anything from get in truck or boat or Argo or Ranger or back of ATV or specific spot in a blind or to go to his hide place while hunting or get on a scale at the Vet's or get on the exam table..
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08 Jan 2013 07:24 PM
Agree with Tom really does not depend on what kind of training. Sit means SIT and don't move till released. Weather it's hunt tests, hunting or field trials and even a companion dog, don't matter Sit means SIT, Kennel means get in or on whatever, and Heel means Get Your Butt Planted Next To My Side. All those commands firmly understood by your dog could save your dogs life no matter what you are training for!
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13 Jan 2013 11:21 PM
I have Brittany's, pointing dogs. Still not sure of the idea behind place boards. Is it just to teach the dog to stay?
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13 Jan 2013 11:21 PM
I have Brittany's, pointing dogs. Still not sure of the idea behind place boards. Is it just to teach the dog to stay?
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14 Jan 2013 09:48 PM
I presume you did read mine and Baydreams comments???
I am not sure what you are asking....gotta friend whose dawg was trained to command "PLACE" for her "place" in a blind.....used "KENNEL" for everything else to my knowledge except Vet scales and exam table....never understood why he used two different command for same results----kinda like folks who use both "SIT" and "STAY".....why???
Kinda like "HERE" means get your but to me and see what I want and "HEEL" means gets your butt beside my foot....different desires from me and training for dawg.....but I don't get difference between "place" and "kennel" and "sit" and "stay".....whatever...I will admit to being a poor trainer on release....ABE, his name means to go after something I know he has seen, "back" means there is more dead ducks out there and "okay" means he can go thru a door or get out of truck or get out of blind and go fugg off....
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15 Jan 2013 05:06 PM

Not sure about the "Place or Place Board thing"  I know occasionally a judge at a hunt test will insist the dogs hind legs be on a mat at the line before being released but very rarely.  As far as sit and STAY are concerned if the dog is sitting and properly trained STAY should be eliminated entirely.  It's a useless command that the dog has to learn  Once again SIT MEANS SIT UNTIL TOLD DIFFERENTLY! 

 

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15 Jan 2013 05:11 PM
Tom Why woul you say you are a poor trainer The Abe should be sent on his name for MARKS he see's and on BACK for a blind retrieve!
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15 Jan 2013 05:16 PM

My list of commands all dogs should know and understand are

NO!

SIT

HEEL

HERE

KENNEL

FETCH

LEAVE IT

And of course thier name, Mine are JoJo, Huzzi, Dreamer and Haley!


 

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15 Jan 2013 06:07 PM
Interesting that your first command is, "NO". I used a very good pro trainer to train my last lab and she told me not to bother to say no to my dog as dogs do not understand the command. I used it some anyway, just could not help myself. Then I went to her place for a training weekend. she had a dog that got out of control and she hollered "NO". I said to her, thought you were not supposed to say no to a dog. She replied that sometimes you just could not help but use the NO command. Had a good laugh over it. Sure do miss her, wish she was still around.
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16 Jan 2013 05:43 AM
Posted By CharlieC on 15 Jan 2013 07:07 PM
Interesting that your first command is, "NO". I used a very good pro trainer to train my last lab and she told me not to bother to say no to my dog as dogs do not understand the command. I used it some anyway, just could not help myself. Then I went to her place for a training weekend. she had a dog that got out of control and she hollered "NO". I said to her, thought you were not supposed to say no to a dog. She replied that sometimes you just could not help but use the NO command. Had a good laugh over it. Sure do miss her, wish she was still around.
Can't recall ever training a dog without using the command NO, nor have I ever trained or hunted with a group were No was not yelled on severeal occasions,  I will however admit if No is a command you intend to use be careful in name choice,  I ran into some problems by nameing My big boy Jo!  Also I think you are underestimating a dogs ability.  A dog can be taught a dersirable behavior no matter what word you use.  Many people on a blind retrieve use the word OVER for left and right, the dog relys on the visual hand signal in this case not necessarily the word.  What if the dogs view is blocked you have a 50-50 chance the dog will go in the correct direction.  My dogs are trained with LEFT/Right so if my dog sits on the whistle that I blew to late and is planted behind a tree,  I can confidently direct my dog verbally to go left (it's his right but he does not know that he does know it means my left.

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