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They all suck and the morons that voted for them and Oblame-a all suck to

What can you expect from some one who lives so close to queer ville USA .Her Boxer and Pelosi all come from the same place .AND I DID NOT VOTE FOR ANY OF THE QUEENS OF S.F. CA .

"Assault weapon" is a made up media/ liberal term for guns that look scary. This upcoming proposed ban from what I've read will include semi-auto rimfires capable of taking a mag with more than 10 rounds, my Rem 597 will do that, how about your 10/22? Semi-auto handguns with a mag of more than 10 rounds, most all but the micros and compacts come from the factory that way. Semi-auto shotguns and rifles with a thumbhole stock or pistol grip, can you say turkey guns? And of course the ARs, SKS, M1, Mini 14. This is just off the top of my head. Sitting back and thinking it will never happen won't cut it in the current political climate we are in. Gun owners need to wake up and be vigilant if they are not already, this is not just about some "assault weapon" you don't think you will ever own for hunting or personal protection.

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There is an old adage, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me." This week the media is trying to convince us that support for Senator Feinstein's anti-gun legislation is weak, but if we are not PRO-ACTIVE, the legislation will pass as written. You will wake up just in time for SHOT Show with new laws that make your AR-15 a Class 3 weapon. This means that if you want to keep your tactical rifles, you will have to register them, pay a $5-$200 tax, and notify the government if you intend to take them out of state. You will also completely waive your 4th Amendment rights to reasonable search and seizure. ATF will have the right to knock on your door and inspect the weapons anytime they want. You will also see an end to standard capacity magazines. This isn't a threat. It isn't political posturing. Diane Feinstein and the anti-gun machine have already introduced the legislation, and it will be rammed through Congress and signed by the President if we do not Stand As One and act today.

Please contact your legislators immediately, and post the links above to your discussion boards. Also please contact all of the gun companies you do business with and ask them to take action now and don't sit on their resources in reaching out to the gunowners of America. All of them have mailing lists, and all of them are sitting on them pretending that they don't have any responsibility, while doing record business in the stuff that is going to be banned or regulated. This 2nd Amendment crisis is not about KA-CHING. We call out to Midway USA, Gunbroker, Brownells, Sportsmen's Guide, Cabelas and all the firearms and accessory manufacturers. If you have a list, use it. We must Stand As One if we are to defeat this threat to our freedom. Aside from one NRA-ILA email notifying us about the legislation, even the NRA has been silent. Facebook isn't enough. Our testing has shown that the effectiveness of Facebook is very small. You MUST EMAIL YOUR LISTS THIS WEEK before the legislation gains public support. We are about to enter a dark time in 2nd Amendment freedom and political wrangling from the NRA isn't going to cut it this far out from an election. The legislators need to hear from us, that we will work to defeat them in their next election bid.

This is not an alarmist position. The anti-gun machine was prepared for this opportunity, and they are very well organized. Senator Feinstein herself admitted that she has been working since last year to investigate all of the loopholes from the last "Assault Weapons Ban" and eliminate them. That means that this time there will be no thumbhole stocks, no sawed off flashhiders, no California "bullet buttons." It is almost as though the anti-gunners allowed the old ban to end in hopes of making a better one this time. This legislation is extremely comprehensive and if it passes, every tactical rifle in America will instantly become a Class 3 weapon. No new guns will be produced at all, effectively shuttering every AR-15 manufacturer in the country.

Don't be fooled by the pollsters this time, for or against. They key point in this legislation is that we are more than a year from the start of the next campaigns for the mid-term elections. The anti-gun lobbyists, as you read this, are contacting the House and Senate members trying to convince them that American voters are not going to punish them for voting for new and sweeping gun control. Few politicians actually stand for anything, so how we react is paramount to defeating this legislation. You must notify your legislators that you are watching their vote and that you will work to defeat them in their next election bid if they vote for any new gun legislation that comes out of the Sandy Hook shootings. Over 500 people have been killed in Chicago this year, the most gun restrictive city in the USA. We will not sacrifice our 2nd Amendment rights because the media is up in arms about the slaughter of 20 white kids by a mentally disturbed individual who stole his mommy's guns.

Also don't think that the Supreme Court is going to help us on this one. The legislation clearly identifies the approach to grandfathered weapons as a tax, and the Supreme Court has recently dealt with this issue on Obamacare, and refused to strike it down. Our swing vote, the George W. Bush appointed Justice Stevens, has already demonstrated that he will not strike down major legislation from the bench if he can find a way to avoid it, and this tax approach to our guns won't even make the Supreme Court. You may think that the original 2nd Amendment guaranteed us the right to the same guns at the government (muskets at the time), but there is plenty of Federal case law from the 1986 machinegun ban that has laid the groundwork for this Feinstein bill. It will pass, and it will stand.

If we Stand As One this week, the legislation will be stopped. Please contact your reps in the House and your Senators today. Mobilize your friends and family. Email everyone in your contact list. And most importantly post the direct links above (not to GunsAmerica) to every single discussion board, blog or forum to which you frequent.

As we have tried to explain already, GunsAmerica is all alone out here in this fight. Please encourage the gun websites you do business with to join our Stand As One campaign and email their mailing lists to fight this game changing legislation. We are all NRA Life and Endowment members here at GunsAmerica, yet nothing has come from NRA. Our competitors Gunbroker have sent nothing, apparently content with the spike in business. Midway USA has a huge list, yet nothing has come from them. Brownells is in the news for selling 3 1/2 years of magazines in one day, yet nothing has come from their email list. And worst of all, Cheaper Than Dirt actually announced that they would stop selling guns online, supporting the public opinion against our guns. Sportsman's Guide even had the nerve to send a happy go lucky "After Christmas" sale email on AR-15 accessories. Don't boycott these companies. Contact these companies! We have to stand together or we are going to lose. Now is not the time to argue and sit on our resources of huge email lists to America's gun enthusiasts. We Stand As One!

Some of you got upset at us calling Alex Jones a turd in the punchbowl of 2nd Amendment freedom, but it is the truth. The conspiracy theory websites do not stand with us on this one, though they claim that they do. A lot of young people are caught up in a conspiracy theory mindset that is preventing them from seeing the forest through the trees. 2nd Amendment rights were never about hunting, and there has always been an out in the open "conspiracy" against them. if you espouse big government control and oversight of all Americans, you obviously don't want free thinkers to be armed. It doesn't take a conspiracy theorist to figure out that Diane Feinstein wants to watch and control all Americans, and disarming us is an important step for her and her ilk. Alex Jones and his gang may seem well intentioned, but what they really want is internet traffic. They want to sell you the movies and the water purifiers and the survival food and the male enhancement pills, PERIOD. Guns are just the latest thing on the conspiracy theory bandwagon because it "gets the buzz going." They may be gun loving Americans at heart, but what is driving them today is the almighty but ever weakening $$$ dollar.

Diane Feinstein doesn't care how much survival food you have in your bunker . But what she does have is the actual power to halt the production of an entire class of firearms and magazines, and she plans to do that, this week. Get out of your armchair and get into action.

This quote from a recent article in the Russian newspaper Pravda urging us to not give up our 2nd Amendment freedom says a great deal:

Do not be fooled by a belief that progressives, leftists hate guns. Oh, no, they do not. What they hate is guns in the hands of those who are not marching in lock step of their ideology. They hate guns in the hands of those who think for themselves and do not obey without question. They hate guns in those whom they have slated for a barrel to the back of the ear.

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G faber I have a problem contacting my senater as it is the one writing the bill .My congressman is all against it .

Holly. contact her anyway even though it won't so much good. Do remember, guns were OK as long (for her, not her constituits) as she felt she needed one.
And remember, when they start to fuss about sniper rifles, they were developed from hunting rifles.

How many saw the video of her holding the AR-15 with a finger on the trigger and waving it around the room full of bystanders?

the hag is a moron

http://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...oa98FHuaU0 Hey guys watch this and for it to your elected officials

I believe, this is my opinion, that these gun grabbers are just trying to control us make us obey like a dictatorship would. If they are able to get our guns then they have leverage to do do. I read somewhere a quote that Feinstein said and it was something like if she could have got 51 percent of the vote she would have had an outright ban and give them up Mr. and Mrs. America. Not exact words but close. That shows how serious she is about this even though she obviously has no clue about guns. If we the people don't make a stand this is just a stepping stone to what's to come

I believe, this is my opinion, that these gun grabbers are just trying to control us make us obey like a dictatorship would. If they are able to get our guns then they have leverage to do do. I read somewhere a quote that Feinstein said and it was something like if she could have got 51 percent of the vote she would have had an outright ban and give them up Mr. and Mrs. America. Not exact words but close. That shows how serious she is about this even though she obviously has no clue about guns. If we the people don't make a stand this is just a stepping stone to what's to come.

bpearce, that definition looks like the clintonian definition. Gfaber hit on it, those characteristics (bayonet lug, flash suppressor, pistol grip) LOOK evil so they must be outlawed. Back when the clinton ban was being debated, the Washington post ran a picture of an AR and a conventional semi-auto rifle. The text read something to effect of "they shoot the same ammunition, at the same rate- one bullet per trigger pull. The only real difference is that one looks evil". This was from the liberal Post.

As I've posted on at least a dozen or more other sites, this is not about guns! This is about CONTROL, and the Libs under Obama being used to control the country. The next step is for him to backdoor an outright gun control scheme, sign the UN treaty, and declare martial law. Then round up those of us who survive the shootout and ship us off to those FEMA camps as he trounces the Constitution and dissolves Congress on the way to establishing his dictatorship. The fools like Feinstein, Pelosi, Boxer, Bloomberg, Sarah Brady, and the other liberal leaders of the Democrats won't know what hit 'em, till it's all over and the fit hits the shan!

Statistics to be ignored.

-MD

Its not about the evil black guns its about disarming America always has been always will be

Which one should be banned? I say both! Along with knives, shovels, piano wire (oops - military high E piano wire and two 3" pieces of broom stick) OK - broom sticks, sharp sticks, fists(if you are George Foreman - hell throw his grills in too - could hit someone with one), whole body (if you are Chuck Norris -= in fact, let's ban Chuck Norris!)

Sorry - got carried away. Maybe we should just ban Feinsten.........................

I plagiarized this from a member of another site that I visit. I stole it because I felt it was a pretty good summation of what we're up against in this battle. Some say that ignorance is bliss, I say it can be downright destructive.

There is widespread irrationality and ignorance demonstrated by people across the board on gun control issues -- the general public, the news media, and elected officials.

Ignorance is a condition that all of us are afflicted with. We are ignorant about all things . . . except the few things we do know about. I am ignorant of anesthesia for use in performing surgeries. I am ignorant of cultured yeasts introduced into grape pressings to start fermentation in making wine. I am ignorant of the preferred leather used in making the shoes I wear. There is nothing unseemly or unusual about being ignorant. However . . . it behooves one to educate oneself on a given subject BEFORE trying to guide the opinions of others, before proposing legislation on that given subject.

With reference to irrationality, I use this term with some restraint. Thinking takes place in accordance with certain rules. It really isn't entirely necessary that one takes classes in rigorous logic to think in a disciplined fashion -- though that may help. We know that it is irrational to say that 1+1=3. Or that "a" is not "a." As an example of irrationality, I saw someone post  on another site that they understand that an assault rifle ban will not prevent criminals from obtaining guns . . . but it will be a pain in the azz for those criminals. I submit that this is an irrational reason to enact a gun control law. It is admitted on its face that the law would have no material effect on reducing crime and have only a trivial effect -- making it a "pain in the azz" for criminals -- on criminals at all. No consideration is given to the millions of stakeholders who are law abiding citizens who will be disadvantaged by such a law. No consideration is given to the fact that this law might very well create criminals of otherwise law abiding people. No consideration is given to the role of the law of unintended consequences, where the unintended consequences far outweigh the intended consequences of legislation. Irrational or simply naive and sadly lacking in wisdom.

Why do people think they know enough to suggest gun laws or express opinions about gun laws who know nothing about guns? These same people would not dream of suggesting legislation or expressing opinions about whether Code Division Multiple Access (CDMA) is better or worse than orthogonal frequency multiple access (OFDMA) wireless transmission. These same people would not dream of expressing opinions about what anesthesia ought to be used or ought not to be used when numbing thumbs prior to sewing up a bad cut.

All of them gungrabbers are stupid  morons.  They are showing beyond a doubt that fact by running they're mouths and not know having a clue about what they are talking about.  An assault weapon is anything you can put your hands on to assault someone with.  It can be a rock,baseball bat, a car, ax, your fist.  What was described earlier as an assault weapon isn't an assault weapon.  It is a select fire.  Automatic or semiautomatic fire weapon.  It is not an assault weapon.  It is misnomers like that that they are counting on to get our guns.  I;ve also heard that now they are going after our ammo.  Trying to get 300 % tax on factory ammo.  And 100% tax on reloading components.  They can't get our guns because of the constitution.  But, the constitution doesn't cover the ammo.  If we can't afford to buy the ammo.  Then we can't use our guns.  I'd like to walk into the house with a hammer and quote the one post. And, ask why cars and hammers aren't outlawed since they have killed more people than guns have.

Not sure which house you would like to walk in, but if it is one with Ms. Feinstein are any of the other gun grabbers, you will most likely be shot by their security detail for having a weapon. Ironic ain't it.

jack

What did you expect during a second Obama term ?!?!