Hunting Forum

I don't know if this is the correct spot to post this, but this is for all those who think a so called "Assault" weapons ban won't affect you because all you do is hunt you need to go to our Queen Feinstein senate page and read about this, being blessed by the King Obama himself. I would like to know from those smarter than me what an assault weapon is! I don't ever recall anyone in the Navy ever being issued one. I seen Mossberg 500's Rem 870's, M-14's, M-16's, M-4's and a few others so will your 870 be a assault weapon? If you think you will be grandfathered in, well you will be, as long as you register with fingerprints and a whole lot more. www.feinstein.senate.gov

I don't see this passing the house in the near future but the left will continue to take every inch they can until before you know it they have taken a mile. Don't believe that they are not against hunting or hunters, that's just too many inches down the road to talk about right now.

Any weapon capable of fully automatic fire is an actual assault weapon. The guns the antis want to ban are nothing more than semi-automatic guns. They only bear a cosmetic similarity to an M-16 or M-4, nothing else.

Frankinstien needs some one to give her a orgasm.Something she has probably never had .And at her age hot flashes are over .And so is he sex life .

that will never pass and gun owners like us will make sure of it

that will never pass and gun owners like us will make sure of it

damn pc , sorry bout the double post

rthomas if it only has to do with fully auto, then assault weapons have been banned since 1938 I believe. I truly believe that people started calling a AR-15 a "Assault Rifle" because thats what they incorrectly thought AR stood for, like everyone think RPG stands for Rocket Propelled Grenade and it stuck. zgrimshaw thats what we thought with Obamacare and the 1994 assault weapons ban, and holly I would be willing to do that if and only IF it would shut her up. Someone has to sacrifice for the team. Problem is the PTSD afterwards! I believe it will pass because the media is liberal leaning and will distort the truth if it gets them a better story. The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

yeah, well the Obaminator makes his own definitions to suit whatever chit he's currently trying to ram down our throats!

Holly: I was worried for you there... I think you owe cbrown BIG TIME!.

wikipedia is another one of those oft quoted liberal sources, that wouldn't know an actual "assault weapon" from a damn slingshot! Also, read the NRA-ILA report on what Feinstein actually wants to ban/confiscate/ outlaw!!!!!!!! Then remember what I previously posted about giving an inch!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the mainstream liberal media are the ones that hung the "assualt weapons" name on our modern sporting rifles. They, along with Obama, Feinstein, Pelosie, and the rest of those idiots in Washinton DC have taken it and run with it. the Feistein bill is a freakin' joke. I'm acually kind of glad that she went as far as she did on it. It is so far out there that I dont think it has a snowballs chance of passing. It is to much to fast. Even with the media and the libs screaming like the little girls that they are the american people will not take this sitting down. Let your senators and representitives know how you feel. It's our right to speak out, and if they know that we wont take it then they will know that they will not be re-elected.

a little late for talk about re-electing them we had that chance last November If we the people would have stood up for are gun rights then we would not be talking about this BS now

Just to stir the pot. I still contend the 2nd amendment is about assault rifles, however you want to define them. I have said this before, the primary purpose of the 2nd amendment is to protect military type small arms, not our sporting (target and hunting) arms. I am well aware, and totally agree with those that content that no matter what we say on our side, no matter how we say it, the gun grabbers are going to make up arguments to keep chipping away at our right to keep and bear arms. I do not say much on this subject because I do not see the value in fighting among ourselves about what we should call this or that, if we only said it this way the gun grabbers would have to admit they are wrong etc. etc. But once and a while I cannot help myself. I know it ain't popular, and I know it would seem that it would create more problems if fully auto guns were again legalized (I know, I can go ask the Gov for a special license and prove to them I am worthy to own a fully auto gun) but that in my opinion is what the 2nd amendment is there to protect along with any other military type small arm. Remember the 2nd amendment gives a purpose statement "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, ..." Well I do not see where the purpose statement brings up hunting, target shooting or other sporting type reasons, it is "necessary to the security of a free state,..." All we need to do is look to see what the military sees as necessary for its ability to fight (small arms here, the 2nd amendment talks about keeping and bearing arms, which I think (but could be wrong) applies to small arms). Well, last I checked the military has or has had in the past fully auto small arms, select fire small arms, bolt action small arms, etc. etc. Therefore, those are the arms I have the right to keep and bear uninfringed according to the 2nd amendment. But we as a nation have thought better of it and continue to chip away at that declared right recognized in our constitution. It is now so bad we are arguing about semi-automatic weapons and the number of bullets that a gun can have attached to it. We as a nation have allowed that right to be trampled so much that we are now arguing over what very little of that right is still not illegal in this country. That my friends is a crying shame.

my 2 cents
jack

rt I won't argue about how you feel about Wikipedia, I only posted this because from what I have read in our current legislation on what is legal to own this is how they are defined.

well said jack we need to come together once and for all I think the 2nd amendment gives me the right to own any type of firearm I want and that my divided friends is the truth one day we will be throwing rocks in stead of bullets if these assbags in Washington get there way join the NRA and pull your heads out of the sand they want all guns PERIOD

What everyone, pro or con needs to remember, is that the militia that was the first to fight for our freedoms, did so with hunting rifles! There were no such things as military small arms in the 1700's. The British military carried many of the same exact guns that the Colonists carried. The difference was the Colonists used them to hunt and kill squirrels, rabbits, turkeys, deer, elk, moose, ducks, doves, quail, and as protection against marauding tribes and the French to the North and the Spaniards to the South! There is no Constitutional guarantee of the right to hunt, since the founders could never have envisioned a time when hunting wouldn't be seen as a primary source of feeding the nation. When people try to point out that "muskets" were the weapons intended, they are missing the fact that back then the Federal Government's interpretation of a road, was a dirt two-track. For every individual who wants to compare apples to oranges in an effort to ban my guns, I say, let's get absolutely literal, and ban the interstate highway system as well; hell it makes just as much of a logical argument!!!!!!!!!

RT I do not disagree that my hunting guns are also protected by the 2nd amendment. My point is that we have already given so much ground because the anti's are winning the battle to define the 2nd amendment as the hunting and sporting amendment. It is not, the purpose of the 2nd amendment is to make sure that guns stay in the hands of the common man so that freedom will be protected. It is not just a cute quip when folks say that the second amendment protects the rest of our freedoms. BTW I agree that the founder's could have never imagined the world we live in today. Heck, if I remember correctly some were arguing that adding the 12 (turned out that only 10 got listed) amendments was counterproductive because we risked getting what we have today, ignoring the 10th amendment completely because they thought it was self-evident that "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people." Well because of our education system and the "living document" pukes that certainly is not self-evident to most today. In fact, both parties when it has served their purpose have completely trampled that self-evident truth throughout history. Therefore, while I maybe a bit extreme, I want to draw the line as close to what is written as I can given the second amendment did get added to the constitution. It is the one document that we have a chance with in the courts (all be it getting slimmer and slimmer all the time).

jack

From shat I have read so far about the current feinstein bill my Winchester 1300 shotgun would be considered an assault weapon as I have a pistol grip stock on it for better holding while turkey hunting. I feel we need to be much more proactive with our congressmen and women. We need to do more emailing, calling, and attending local events where they are present We must present the most logical arguments we can and keep our cool at all times. Just look at all the attempts to remove references to God wherever it show up in government. All this comes from just 14 percent of our population.

Feinstein's ultimate goal is the elimination of all privately owned guns, regardless of whether it's a rifle, shotgun or handgun. Don't believe it? Go back and research her comments during the debates over the Clinton Gun Ban proposals. She, Boxer, Bloomberg, Biden, Brady, and other left wingers tried their damned best to outlaw handguns and all semi-automatics regardless of features back then. This time around, she's actually expanded her list of guns she wants to ban or confiscate!