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I know some on here have told me that I am crazy with what I post and most don't pay any attention to what I say .But here is more about what I have been saing about taking back what belongs to US THE U.S.CITIZEN .Bend over and get screwed or be part of the solution.You make your choice .I am doing my part as I donate to PLP .

Executive Summary The Mining Law: The Extent of Federal Authority Over Public Domain http://www.jeffersonminingdistrict.com/exec.pdf  SHERIFF: This Land is Our Land, Feds Have No Jurisdiction! http://www.usobserver.com/archive/s...-land.html

 

Yes TLC this was never ratified by your senate .But it is happening here .And those who chose to ignore it oh well .I can't .It is effecting me and others inthe west .
New Post: Direct Link To This Post Posted: Today at 3:47pm
Agenda 21 Is Being Rammed Down The Throats Of Local Communities All Over America
http://www.prisonplanet.com/agenda-...erica.html

And for those who don't want to believe it the state of AR has past laws against it being implemented there .We have several counties and cities doing the same thing .It has not hit the east as it has the west .And as TODD SAYS F#$K THOSE RICH FARMERS THAT ARE BEING EFFECTED .

so, according to your conspiracy theorist, look up what people say about this guy you want us to read, agenda 21, which is NOT a united states law, is being pushed down your/our throats?  maybe you should loosen that tin foil hat.  explain how a non federal law can be pushed down your throat.  this should be good.  last time you tried this, you were embarassed.  leave it alone. 

and what's this crap about farmers?  post where I said anything about farmers.  FYI, my family are rich farmers dumbass.  grandpa, uncles, father, and now my brothers and I.  on paper, where we own the farm land, at 400 acres, you are considered a millionaire.  so, again, post where I said anything about farmers and{1}**** them.

you'd think you'd learn.  thanks for proving me wrong.  and since you didn't answer the question, go back and answer the question I asked after your picture post.  that way, noone can say I made a fool out of you.  you can do it yourself.  again.  go away whack job.

 

The problem with Agenda 21, is that it's a UN mandate, that our government signed on to under Bush, Sr., as a guideline for improving and updating many of our codes. The problem came about when Clinton actually entered into an agreement with the UN to not only use the guidelines, but actually implementing the UN's formulas as law, complete with penalties and enforcement. We now have an increasing number of UN mandated laws that are growing in scope as they erode previous US laws. Regardless of the value of such laws, it's reprehensible that the US would allow the UN to write our laws, and stipulate punishment for perceived violations. This is what has presented the groundwork and basis for Obama's willingness to sign the UN gun ban treaty. When we allow another entity to establish our laws...many of which are in direct opposition to our Constitution, we are allowing the erosion of that Constitution and establishing precedence for the UN to effectively govern our country.

"California Representative Wally Herger offered an article on Agenda 21 which, unfortunately, reflects a lack of knowledge about Agenda 21 — shared by far too many elected officials."

"Actually, the document was adopted by 179 nations, including the signature of George H.W. Bush. A nation's signature on a U.N. document obligates the nation to do nothing in opposition to the goals of the document, and to promote implementation of the document's recommendations. Agenda 21 is not a treaty subject to Senate ratification. It was never intended to be a treaty. (Bill Clinton signed the Kyoto Protocol. Because his signature obligated the U.S., George W. Bush took the unusual action to have the U.S. signature removed from the document.) At the same conference, however, two treaties were adopted by the U.N.: The framework Convention on Climate Change, signed by Bush and ratified by the Senate; and the Convention on Biological Diversity, not signed by Bush, signed by Clinton, but not ratified by the Senate.

Nothing in Agenda 21 is legally binding on any government until a government — at any level — adopts an Agenda 21 recommendation as a law or ordinance, or as an Executive Order such as EO 12852 issued by President Bill Clinton in 1993 in response to Agenda 21 recommendation 8.7:

"Governments, in cooperation, where appropriate, with international organizations, should adopt a national strategy for sustainable development..."

 

Agenda 21 is not a conspiracy theory and is alive and doing well with the help of those pols who feel it is the best for us.

Posted By Big Dawg on 25 Dec 2012 01:50 PM
Agenda 21 is not a conspiracy theory and is alive and doing well with the help of those pols who feel it is the best for us.

"according to your conspiracy theorist"

sources have described Jones as a conservative^[3][4][5][6] and as a right-wingconspiracy theorist.^[

<sup>never said it was a conspiracy theory. 

"</sup> Nothing in Agenda 21 is legally binding on any government until a government — at any level — adopts an Agenda 21 recommendation as a law or ordinance".  if people are letting their local governments pass this crap, then it's thier own fault.  and just looked at a list.  less than 25% of the country has done anything with it.  and more and more are fighting against this crap.  and if you look at the list, there seems to be a common thread about these places.  here's the link.

http://dailyright.net/post/2011/02/23/Has-Agenda-21-Invaded-Your-City-Yet-(Dozens-of-cities-listed-here).aspx

have no idea why some of this is so small.

 

 

And yes cities and counties here are fighting it .Just a slow process .

http://www.goldprospectors.org/Comm...da-21.aspx El Dorado County's Board of Supervisors Tuesday put off indefinitely further discussion of the controversial Agenda 21. Board Chairman John Knight had agendized a proposed board resolution to "endorse rejection of its radical policies and rejections of any grant monies attached to it." http://www.mtdemocrat.com/news/resi...agenda-21/ El Dorado County's Board of Supervisors Tuesday put off indefinitely further discussion of the controversial Agenda 21. Board Chairman John Knight had agendized a proposed board resolution to "endorse rejection of its radical policies and rejections of any grant monies attached to it." OH yes you say it dont exist . Knight, however, exercising the chair's prerogative, pulled the item from the agenda and offered it "off calendar" for future consideration. Off-calendar means there is no date certain on which or by which the issue will return to the board's agenda. Members of the audience and supervisors got testy with each other over the move to "continue" the matter. Several times Knight and Suervisor Jack Sweeney tried to clarify what the board action meant. That is, not to deny the public the opportunity to discuss the specifics of Agenda 21, but rather to hold those discussions at a future time. Agenda 21 came out of the "United Nations Conference on Environment and Development" in Rio de Janeiro in 1992. It is commonly referred to as a blueprint or action plan for "sustainable development" worldwide and includes involvement at the global, national and local levels. In its simplest terms, it is predicated on the assumption that much human activity has a potentially deleterious effect on the environment. Agenda 21 (for the 21st century) states that by working together the international community can reduce environmental degradation while improving the lives and prospects of people in the developing world.   40 chapters A four-section, 40-chapter document, Agenda 21 emphasizes such issues as consumption patterns, use and availability of resources, demographics, financing, health, housing and development in general. At the state and local level, such issues have informed California's transportation and housing future in the form of Assembly Bill 32 and Senate Bill 375. Both of these laws deal with policies to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by concentrating higher density housing developments in such a way as to significantly increase the use of public transportation. Opposition to much of the philosophy embodied in Agenda 21 is based on concerns that its foundation rests on "taking from the haves and giving it to the have-n0ts." That is, subsuming if not confiscating private property to the interests and welfare of an ill-defined majority. In a word, socialism. Several audience members described Agenda 21 as a threat to the local as well as the American way of life, liberty and the Constitution. Steve Tyler, who has addressed the board in the past about gold mining and dredging issues said, "We've been remiss in avoiding Agenda 21 whose sole point is to destroy this country, destruction by the corruption of the EPA, department of Fish and Game" and similar agencies. A number of speakers demanded that the board withdraw the county's membership in the Sacramento Area Council of Governments (SACOG), which is a regional planning and action group. Some planning and development issues such as housing and transportation are organized and administered through SACOG. Kathleen Newell urged opposition to the U.N. and Agenda 21, which would otherwise impose socialism and "choke us with regulations" and pushed supervisors to "set a date to have this on the agenda." Candidate for District 3 supervisor, Sue Taylor, called the Agenda 21 "guide to sustainable development, a threat to our Constitution and a compromise of our independence." She cautioned the board to be careful about acquiescing to "global policy." Jaimie Beutler had a different take on the matter. She said so much "fear and misunderstanding is sad" and advised that the whole issue should be considered incrementally as specific problems to be addressed. As a whole, she called it simply an "idealogical stance" that includes some "darn good ideas." "Some things are handled better at a regional level and some at the local level, but we all need to work together," Beutler concluded. Melody Lane of Coloma described Agenda 21 as having "many tentacles" that reach down even into local affairs. And while it represents a "threat to our Constitution," she also stressed that the board should "deal with the realities and not the conspiracies of Agenda 21." Supervisors eventually voted unanimously to "continue" the matter.
Diapers and Politicians should be changed often, both for the same reasons!

More latter .Off to ARIZONA .

Part 1: Agenda 21:Central Planning on Steroids: Global Warming Believers Unmasked by Climategate:

http://www.mtdemocrat.com/news/agen...imategate/

Part 2: Agenda 21: The Bio-engineering of the Planet

http://www.mtdemocrat.com/news/agen...he-planet/

Part 3: Agenda 21: Regional Planning and Sustainable Development

http://www.mtdemocrat.com/news/agen...velopment/

Part 4: Agenda 21: The 1% Solution

http://www.mtdemocrat.com/news/agen...-solution/

Alabama thwarts UN Agenda 21.



On May, 24 2012 Alabama Governor Robert Bentley signed SB-477 into law. SB-477 is a bill that “prohibit state, counties, etc., from developing environmental and developmental policies that would infringe on the due process of citizens” UN Agenda 21 is fast becoming an epidemic that threatens each and every United States citizen in this country. When our founding fathers wrote “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” They would have cringed about an idea like UN Agenda 21. In Thomas Jefferson’s time UN Agenda 21 could have been legislation that ignited a powder keg for the brave soldiers of the Continental Army to take up arms again to defend these United States of America. Here in little ole Notasulga, AL the town of 950 got a taste of UN Agenda 21 and this so called “Smart Growth” but if it had not been for a lone City Council person to take the time before casting a vote for all her constituents, UN Agenda 21 could have a strong toe hold on this close family known as the Town of Notasulga. At a previous month’s town council meeting a city employee though it would be a good idea to acquire funding in the form of a grant for a sidewalk project, not a bad Idea, but in order to receive this grant a workshop hosted in town hall by “Smart Growth America” to suggest new zoning ideas for this small Alabama town. The council was not fully made aware of “Smart Growth America” and their public-private partnerships along with the US EPA to put the “community” over the taking of a person’s private property to do so. After learning of “Smart Growth America” and her own research Councilwoman Terry Broach saw the need to inform her constituents to do their own research and inform her if that is what the people of the district she represented wanted. After several days of phone calls of concern from her district and the definite opposition to “Smart Growth America” Councilwoman Broach was prepared to inform “Smart Growth America” that Notasulga was not the place for their plans and had no interest in violating the sacred rights our founding fathers bestowed in our country and asked them to leave along with the rest of the council and a chamber full of concerned citizens.

UN Agenda 21 reminds me of a dark time in world history when one man desired complete world domination and it took most of the world’s armed forces to restore peace to Europe. UN Agenda 21 is not using Sherman tanks take the world over, it is using cleverly worded documents and zoning plans to dominate communities and control private and public property to benefit a small group while forcing the rest to swallow their pride and bow down to domination. President Calvin Coolidge said “Ultimately property rights and personal rights are the same thing.” So if you take ones property rights essentially you are taking his personal rights, rights so many have fought and died to protect. Allowing UN Agenda 21 to take hold in the United States would this country back to 1750. It is a polite way of saying “we think your property would be better served as a community park, you have no say in the matter, we are taking your property to benefit the community, you would be best suited living in this neighborhood anyway since it is closer to the school and commercial district.”

I applaud the Alabama legislature who defended the rights of each and every citizen of the State of Alabama in passing SB-477 and Governor Bentley for signing it into law.



Adam Broach

Here is one I posted and you did not refute .


http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/...-agenda-21

One of the most liberal papers in my area .


Sacramento Bee post I made on the Agenda 21 article today:

I think it is very irresponsible to use LABELS to manipulate and make subliminal and overt suggestions. Word association is a weapon of any author! This article is troubling for me on so many fronts.



Agenda 21 is something the laissez-faire American is just now recognizing and in some cases, attempting to become familiar and hopefully knowledgeable regarding the general and the core philosophy. This has become a major power struggle and is not about Agenda 21 but in fact is about the undefined roles of overlapping regulatory enforcers; the definition of plan, rules vs. Laws; the definition of Local Authority vs. Federal and the erosion of Local Law; the manipulative definition of trails and roads; the definition of time line and the 1872 Mining Law; the seemingly lack of transparency; the definition of TWO cultures rapidly moving to the intersection where conflict will occur; and the art of obfuscation and wordsmithing which always perpetuates distrust. Agenda 21 may have a vector but once in place beware as it removes and curtails certain flexibility freedoms and that is the latent and growing overt FEAR. It seems veiled. In some cases, the so called labeled "greenies (according the labeling public) are buying up ranches and ranch water rights on the borders of the designated corridor. Millions have been spent thus far from well funded groups. The herding of the Sheeple has been conditioned through much media which is good and bad about the environment. The so called labeled (according to the labeling public and lazy journalists) non-greenies have no major group to rally around and limited funding notwithstanding no Brand in the American public. Money vs. Non Money in a capitalistic society in marketing and branding is a kiss of death. One of the core issues is the value of humans vs. non humans. While seniors and Children go to be hungry at night, do you make sure that the Tortoise is safe and nurtured? Hopefully, this debate will wake up Americans to vote and monitor their representatives' choices and in some cases rhetoric, with a more discerning eye. Public lands are being taken monthly. China is buying land in Idaho. The federalization of public lands is full force with momentum and precedent. The matrix of Laws buried in the middle of a 1000 page Bill will forever lock in Laws that will be very difficult to reverse as recently suggested by the Sec of Interior, Salazar, report before the House Committee on Natural Resources on the 2013 President's Budget Request dated Feb 15, 2012. In talking to some public official recently about public lands we asked them did they know that one could stake a mining claim and mine public lands heretofore. They responded naively....really, you can do that? This response was from leaders in local government. Was it Gorbachev who said....Americans will hang themselves and then give you the rope?

how fuggin stupid are you holly?  is it that you can't read?  or is it you can not understand what you read?  let's try this again for you dumbass......

Nothing in Agenda 21 is legally binding on any government until a government — at any level — adopts an Agenda 21 recommendation as a law or ordinance". if people are letting their local governments pass this crap, then it's thier own fault. and just looked at a list. less than 25% of the country has done anything with it. and more and more are fighting against this crap. and if you look at the list, there seems to be a common thread about these places. here's the link.

http://dailyright.net/post/2011/02/...here).aspx   

copy and paste this link and it will show you the cities/towns/whatever you want to call them, where this stuff is.

now, go back and answer the question where you posted the pictures.

 

Hell even some counties in your state belong to them .


Agenda 21 – ICLEI Update: 138 ICLEI Members Quit ICLEI in 18 Months! We Got ‘Em on the Run!

http://www.varight.com/news/agenda-...n-the-run/

Posted By holly on 25 Dec 2012 09:18 PM
One of the most liberal papers in my area .


Sacramento Bee post I made on the Agenda 21 article today:

I think it is very irresponsible to use LABELS to manipulate and make subliminal and overt suggestions. Word association is a weapon of any author! This article is troubling for me on so many fronts.



Agenda 21 is something the laissez-faire American is just now recognizing and in some cases, attempting to become familiar and hopefully knowledgeable regarding the general and the core philosophy. This has become a major power struggle and is not about Agenda 21 but in fact is about the undefined roles of overlapping regulatory enforcers; the definition of plan, rules vs. Laws; the definition of Local Authority vs. Federal and the erosion of Local Law; the manipulative definition of trails and roads; the definition of time line and the 1872 Mining Law; the seemingly lack of transparency; the definition of TWO cultures rapidly moving to the intersection where conflict will occur; and the art of obfuscation and wordsmithing which always perpetuates distrust. Agenda 21 may have a vector but once in place beware as it removes and curtails certain flexibility freedoms and that is the latent and growing overt FEAR. It seems veiled. In some cases, the so called labeled "greenies (according the labeling public) are buying up ranches and ranch water rights on the borders of the designated corridor. Millions have been spent thus far from well funded groups. The herding of the Sheeple has been conditioned through much media which is good and bad about the environment. The so called labeled (according to the labeling public and lazy journalists) non-greenies have no major group to rally around and limited funding notwithstanding no Brand in the American public. Money vs. Non Money in a capitalistic society in marketing and branding is a kiss of death. One of the core issues is the value of humans vs. non humans. While seniors and Children go to be hungry at night, do you make sure that the Tortoise is safe and nurtured? Hopefully, this debate will wake up Americans to vote and monitor their representatives' choices and in some cases rhetoric, with a more discerning eye. Public lands are being taken monthly. China is buying land in Idaho. The federalization of public lands is full force with momentum and precedent. The matrix of Laws buried in the middle of a 1000 page Bill will forever lock in Laws that will be very difficult to reverse as recently suggested by the Sec of Interior, Salazar, report before the House Committee on Natural Resources on the 2013 President's Budget Request dated Feb 15, 2012. In talking to some public official recently about public lands we asked them did they know that one could stake a mining claim and mine public lands heretofore. They responded naively....really, you can do that? This response was from leaders in local government. Was it Gorbachev who said....Americans will hang themselves and then give you the rope?

this article is bullshit. just like most of your "facts". either that, or you missed the fact that this budget got kicked in the nuts by both parties. 99-0 against in the senate. so, quoting something in this article about the budget, is nothing but a scare tactic.

Posted By holly on 25 Dec 2012 09:25 PM
Hell even some counties in your state belong to them .


Agenda 21 – ICLEI Update: 138 ICLEI Members Quit ICLEI in 18 Months! We Got ‘Em on the Run!

http://www.varight.com/news/agenda-...n-the-run/

not one single illinois county on there.  there were 10 towns/villages/cities.  which means that less than 10% are involved.  and one got themselves taken off.

This is a subject being tought in collage


http://www.infowars.com/u-n-backed-...-in-texas/

one from Canada free press .


UN Agenda 21: Environmental Piracy
"I am not sure when subsequent generations, our children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren will no longer be permitted access in zones marked off-limits to human habitation and trespassing in accordance with the dictates of UN Agenda 21 and the now infamous Wildlands Project map."

http://www.canadafreepress.com/inde...icle/49622

Posted By holly on 25 Dec 2012 09:31 PM
This is a subject being tought in collage


http://www.infowars.com/u-n-backed-...-in-texas/

really?  again, do you comprehend what you read?  from YOUR article that YOU posted...........

"The Republican National Committee adopted a resolution in January against Agenda 21 as “a comprehensive plan of extreme environmentalism, social engineering, and global political control.” The Texas Republican Party followed suit at its state convention in June, adding opposition to Agenda 21 to the party’s platform."

any other things you want to look stupid about?  and it's already been established that the guy you keep quoting and posting articles from is a conspiracy theorist.  loook it up yourself.