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Since God threw Lucifer from Heaven good and evil exsisted. When God made man he gave man free will. The ability to choose between good or evil. When the serpent tempted Eve she had the choice between good or evil. When Cain slew Able he had a choice between good or evil To this day we are still embodied with free will the choice between good and evil. The choice to be a tool of God or a tool of Lucifer but it is still OUR choice. People after a tragedy like the one that has recently befallen us ask: "How could God allow this to happen?" The answer is simple God has given man free will the ability to choose between good or evil. God did not choose to commit the evil at Sandy Hook a man did. A man with a mind twisted by Lucifer; some would say possesed by Lucifer. No matter how pious no matter how much we pray Lucifer is always there to tempt us. It is left up to us by God to choose between good or evil. The only thing that will drive Lucifer and temptation away is prayer. At that moment of temptation pray and drive the evil one away. For when we join with God in prayer it causes Lucifer the graetest pain he knows. God has shown us both the path of good and the path of evil and it is each of us the choice of the path to follow.


Now some of you may think I'm a nut case or some religious zealot. I am not! I am a sinner! I find solace and forgiveness in God. In some way by posting this I am following the Pope's declaration of this (2013) as The Year of Faith. To go out and spread the word of God that is what I do here now. I am a reborn Catholic I have been shown the light of Jesus Christ God and Savior. And I invite you to join me in celebration of The Lord God. In following Jesus Christ evil will never win.

Merry Christmas and God Bless you all
Bill

AMEN

AMEN !!!

I agree. all you can do is state what you believe and try to be a good example to those around you. they will CHOOSE to do what they will with it. that's what free will is all about.I believe the entire purpose of life is to give everyone the choice ,"to walk with GOD or burn in the pit. I also believe that the reason so many want to argue and belittle your beliefs is because the holy spirit is dealing with thier heart and the idea that they need a savior is offensive to them.they love to say I don't believe in GOD!To this I simply answer ,"that's o.k. HE still believes in you!"
 unfortunatly what one calls evil calls another  good but in the end it is thier choice!

God Bless!

Merry Christmas and thanks Gut.

More power to you, fellas. I don't share your views on religion (or much else...), but I certainly am happy for all of you that you have a Higher Power in your life to help guide you.
Happy Holidays, all.

I have to question an all powerful loving God that refuses to intercede when evil is practiced. Why wouldn't such a God have intervened in some manner to prevent the horror of Sandy Hook Elementary?????? I prefer to believe that every individual has the power to act as their own conscience guides them; and if that conscience is led by insanity and an evil mindset then sh*t is going to be the result. Instead of praying and supplicating to a higher being, and instead of reacting to tragedy, why not be proactive and take steps to prevent it in some manner that doesn't include relying on the intervention of mysticism!!!!!!!!

GOD NEVER PROMISED WE WOULD NOT HAVE TRIALS in our lives. if you have never run head on into the devil it's because your walking in the same direction.maybe he just didn't intercede because he knew that letting them die young would save them much misery in the future. who the hell knows,far be it from me to question GODS intentions.
as to your other point,I agree , GOD helps those who help themselves,he hates lazyness.HE will help us through anything but HE also  expects us to do our part.
 I  don't expect to change your mind. all I can do is share my beliefs, GOD will do the rest

RT-
While we are DEFINITELY on the same page, I have absolutely no issue with those that take God (or Allah, or Odin... whoever) into their hearts. Whatever it takes to get you through the day.

RT4, the reason he allowed the Sandy Hook incident to take place is because of sin. He gave all of us a free will. Eve had a free will; she allowed herself to be led on by the devil; so there is sin. Because of sin, bad things occur in every day living. Because of sin, we are mortal. Could God stop sin? Absolutely. But it isn't a part of His plan. Not trying to start anything. Just figured I'd answer your question. This is what I, and other Christians, believe. And like coyoteslayer said, we all have our own cross to bear. Because of our crosses we need to trust God, pray to Him, and keep our faith nourished in His Word daily so we can overcome the devil and his sinful ways. And we do need to be proactive in order to further prevent things like Sandy Hook from occurring.

I prefer to put my faith in my ability to shoot straight and practicing my right to concealed carry. If I want to pray to something, it would be to Sturm Ruger, Springfield Armory, Remington Arms, John Browning, Winchester, and O.E. Mossberg!!!!!!!!! Certainly not a deity that in all probability was a space traveler, who is long gone!

everyone has faith. it's your choice what you put it in.my only duty as a christian is to present the gospel not force you to accept it

I agree to what YOTESLAYER AND DUCKBUSTER, say...God has lead us to this point...you dont have to believe.....but as your praying that each and every weapon that you own.shoots...Its always good to have somebody on your side.Being a higher power or not.But sooner or later you will have to answer to somebody.

God gave man free will. The ability to choose to do good or do evil and he doesn't intercede on free will. Through prayer he WILL guide you to the fork in the road and show you which is good and which is evil. From there the choice is yours.

As to Sandy Hook let's put blame in its proper place. First from what we know the mother of the shooter had been having trouble with her son. She owned the guns used but didn't secure them so a son she knew was troubled couldn't get at them. Her son for some reason beyond our comprehension chose to kill his mother and then go to the school and well, we know the rest. We'll never know the exact reason but we know Lucifer had a hand in it.

We all live in denial in one way or another. The mother may have known her child was troubled, but how many of us would believe our child would do such a thing as he did to her, before going to that school. No one wants to believe anyone could be that Evil. We don't see such things on that level in this country that oftin, that is the shock factor in all this. It leaves us looking for a reasons, where none exist.

Telling your teenager that he\she cannot have a party or drive your car while you are gone yet allowing it to happen ( by not actively stopping it but instead letting your children have the freedom to choose between following your rules or not ) does not mean you do not exist.

God has given us His rules and just because many choose not to follow His rules does not mean He does not exist.

I do know that prayer does work and has spared some from pain, for example when I prayed for the strength to not lose my temper and curb stomp some idgets. That certainly stopped them from feeling a great deal of pain!

For those that say He was a space traveler that seeded life on Earth, fine but then who created Him so that He could travel space and create us? I posed this question to a debate group about the origins of life on Earth and when they could not answer beyond the other older space travelers created the space travelers that created life on Earth bs or explain how some multi period fossils were created they banned me for life.

As for believing the latest most modern Bible, well I am open for debate about that since lost in translation is quite common. After some study it is easy enough to show that most of the modern Bibles I have read are not translated 100% correctly from much older texts. Such as the flood, the oldest I could find said the entire country was flooded, not the entire world. Evidence of such a huge flood of that area has been found and proven true. The parting of the Red Sea is another. From what I could research it was the Reed Sea in the original. I was not there so as I stated I am open to debate about these.

All things have a begaining and an end. Where did GOD come from.
I have no doubt a belief in a high power helps many.
I have no doubt prayor helps many in troubling times.

I have no problem with public prayor, as long as it does not turn in to a surmon, or a political rant disguised as a prayor.
I have no doubt that the belief in GOD, and his guildance has also been the cause of death for many inocent people as well as the guilty.
I have no problem debateing about relegion, until it becomes a name calling thing, with the personel attacks, insults intended to cause anger. And how easy it is to go from and observation or valid point, to a presonel attack, or the mistake of seeing the differance on one or both sides.

ck I agree with you, I apologize if any thought my post was attacking anyone in particular, that was not the case.

Yup, we can believe what we want. Just stating what Christians believe. Take it or leave it. Either is fine (Well, I guess taking it would make me happy...LOL) To each his own, though.

The power of prayer is a strong thing IMO. It has worked for me. I know God is real, and that he is omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient. Honestly, I feel that is why our country is on the rocks; we've forgotten God, so He is essentially forgetting us. We can turn back to Him at any point, but there is a point where He will just let us do what we want because we just keep rebuking Him. And without God, bad things happen. Again, that would be what Christians believe.