Hunting Forum

I have a rifle not a gun. This is my rifle this is my gun. One is for fighting and one is for fun. All guns are weapons not all weapons are guns.

It's simply both a choice of wording and what the firearmn is used for. When hunting and recreational shooting it is simply a rifle or firearm and IMO is only called a weapon when used as an offensive device against another human being. As noted by GP in the military a rifle is a weapon and a gun is an artillery piece. Again a choice or wording gives meaning to it's use.

I agree Big Dawg, and wording is what the media and gun grabbers are all about. Call it a weapon they will put it on a list and try to take it. They aren't looking for assult guns or assult firearms, everything they want is an assult weapon. Regardless of whether it is a semi-automatic pump or bolt action rifle, shotgun, or pistol if we call them a weapon they will take it to task. They don't care about the Second Amendment or any other rights, they are self-serving and want mor laws that won't work. We have laws on the books already to control everything we do in life, being a responsible gun owner is key in preventing tragedies and if the courts dealt with things on a proper level instead of turning their heads, we would not be fighting for our rights again.

Next time I play golf I'll be sure to carry my bag of weapons, you know irons and woods. Then when the softball team starts practicing I'll take a few of those Louisville weapons for them to use in batting practice, I'll carry all of that in my 1/2 ton weapon that I drive.

Posted By rthomas4 on 26 Dec 2012 04:13 PM
Next time I play golf I'll be sure to carry my bag of weapons, you know irons and woods. Then when the softball team starts practicing I'll take a few of those Louisville weapons for them to use in batting practice, I'll carry all of that in my 1/2 ton weapon that I drive.

Very good point RT, Maybe we should all try a little harder in our use of words when talking about Fireams. Even though we know it is BS. Or at least point the differance out when we hear the words misused.

Ya know rt, you've given me an idea. I think I'm going to stir the pot a little next year as my grandkids get back into their ball seasons. I'm going to get vocal about them putting a weapon in my kids hands and teaching them how to be deadly accurate with it. Reckon we could get the Louisville Slugger classified as an assault weapon?
I guess I need to get started doing a little research on injuries and fatalities involving a bat, club, stick, or anything else that could be used in the same manner as a bat.

Grandpops you could followup with a demo of how easily a baseball bat could be made into an atlatl.

With the word " assualt " being a verb it can be put in front of anything that can be used to kill another human being. And the oldest murder weapon in the world are the ones we use eveyday and those being our hands !!! It is such a bad use of english to use the word " assault " when describing anything other than the act itself.

Posted By Big Dawg on 28 Dec 2012 07:05 AM 
And the oldest murder weapon in the world are the ones we use eveyday and those being our hands !!! 

Don't give em any ideas, next they'll be wanting to take away our hands.

holly, suggested someone should "assault" Feinstein's vagina, whereas I firmly believe she needs an old fashioned azz fuggin', to adjust her attitude. Can we please get a volunteer!!!!!!!!!!!

all them{1}*****'s are ugly scags and no one I know would touch them with a 10 foot pole

She's from Calif. Holly, guess you been elected. But I really think it's too late for that. Done been overrun with fruit flys when she was Mayor in S.F., we need to clean house in D.C. and start over, no common sence, no office. Get the rich out of control in our government, we need people that care about people, not lining their already deep pockets.

Posted By gutpile on 22 Dec 2012 09:19 AM
I have a rifle not a gun. This is my rifle this is my gun. One is for fighting and one is for fun. All guns are weapons not all weapons are guns.

Gut,

Perfect !!!

I really like this....................did you make this up yourself ?

its a line from the movie Platoon

Hmmm - is actually much older than that. The Drill Sargent I had in 1966 made us say that over and over again until we called "the instrument" by its proper name - rifle. We NEVER used the term gun and had never heard the term assault weapon. "AW" is a new term. As for "weapon" we never used that term either, not for guns, not for artillery, not for ordnance, not for anything. That is today's words - as in W's "weapons of mass destruction".

It goes back to Paris Island and troop training prior to WWII, according to a retired DI I know. It particularly gained popularity during the Viet Nam era, also according to the gunny. This particular one was one of Travis' NJROTC instructors, until he retired again.

Hey Gut, our D.I. made a guy march around the barracks naked for about an hour holding his rifle and saying "this is my rifle this is my gun, this is for fighting this is for fun" as he pointed to his member and his rifle. He had called his rifle a gun in front of the D.I., nobody else made that mistake..

That saying has been around for a long long long time i first heard from my father over 50 yr's ago he learned it in the 30's as a drill srgt. in the army

Well, thank the Lord for all the DI's.


Saved a lot of lives !!!

Here's my take on the subject.  I have a real problem the term assault weapon being used for military looking rifles.  If it has a selecter switch from semi to auto,and it functions. Then, ok. It's an assault rifle.  Notice that I said rifle. Not weapon.  If you come to my home and start an issue where I may have to defend my home or family against you.  The first thing I'm going to grab is the fireplace poker unless you have a gun in your hands.  As soon as I've grabbed that poker.  I have just turned it into an assault weapon because I'm fixing to assault you with it.  If I picked up a rock and threw it at you .  Then I've just turned that rock into an assault weapon.  Anything you use to attack another person with is technically an assault weapon. Including a car. That happens every day several times a day.  You see people doing it on the streets all the time.  Using they're SUV's or pick up trucks to intimidate other drivers.  Maybe they should be taken to jail also.  They are using those vehicles as assault weapons.
As for cannons go.
Artillery actually has two different terminologies
A rifle is a direct fire weapon.  Such as the cannon on a tank.
The real artillery is an indirect fire cannon. That cannon is called a howitzer.
As far as Dippy Fienstien goes.  I would even keep my dogs away from her.  Don't know what ever kind of disease she's carrying.