You're right, and I stand corrected. My last post was intended as a response to Ternera1. Please accept my apology for incorrectly addressing you. I don't ever want to carelessly throw out incorrect posts, as I see many of the "regular" posters on the NAHC forum have a bad habit of doing, thus my "Solitaire" comment.
As a new poster, most of what I have read from the regulars with literally hundreds and thousands of posts, appears to be a bunch of folks with too much time on their hands, giving their opinions on things they clearly have no idea what they're even talking about. Hey, it's a free country and all, and everyone can do whatever they feel like doing, but it comes across as ridiculous and unproductive from an outside perspective. In fact, many of the posts I have read come across as petty and childish. I'm just being honest.
You correcting my error and everything else in your last post was fine, until you also ventured into speculative territory, about a situation which you know very little about. If you had carefully read the majority of the posts regarding the responses to this hunt, you would know that there was at least one hunter who said he actually WAS on the same hunt as this disgruntled gentleman who started this whole thing out by calling a legitimate outfitter a scam. That hunter addressed the angry hunter directly, refuting many of his claims.
I also mentioned in my post, that as a responsible hunter, I made sure that I discussed this hunt with the outfitter to make sure I got accurate information before responding. A number of other hunters who have had very different types of experiences with this outfitter also alluded to the fact that they had contacted him as well, to see what in the world had gone wrong for this client on this particular hunt. This was so different than everything I have ever experienced or heard about this outfitter, that I wanted to hear what could have possibly gone so badly that this hunter would be so angry and upset.
I will say that, armed with about 1% of the overall picture, you're free to speculate that this is a big conspiracy and that we're all intent on covering up a great, big, giant scam, from which we're all profiting. Along with many of the comments that many of the regulars make on this forum, that is inaccurate and makes professional people like me shy away from being involved with this forum. I wouldn't want to waste my time bantering back and forth with folks who don't seem to be legitimately interested in the truth, but rather interested in continually "stirring the pot", and creating intrigue and deceit where none really exists. Many of the regulars on this post have done very little other than throw out random, verbal scud missiles with no particular objective or target. I have personally answered several of these members, and, of course, they never responded after I thoroughly answered their questions with the facts that I had gotten straight from Mr. Doty @ IWS.
Also, I'm not a "fanboy", but rather an experienced, legitimate hunter who has had many productive hunts with this outfitter, which is why I got involved with this whole thing in the first place. If you need to speak condescending to fellow hunters who are trying to add constructive input to this whole discussion, have at it. That diminishes you, not them.
I want to say again, that I am really disappointed for the hunter who started this whole discussion. He obviously paid a lot of money for this hunt, and due to all sorts of circumstances outside of everyone's control, he had a bummer of a hunt, to put it mildly. I know how upsetting that can be, but as I stated before, I know he could have handled this in a more constructive way other than labeling a legitimate outfitter, with a legitimate business, a scam. He can even consider it to be kind of a rip-off, from his perspective, but to be a scam, implies that the outfitter is a spurious fellow, intent on taking advantage of other hunters, for personal gain. As I have stated on this forum (add nauseum), after 48 days of hunting with this outfitter, I can personally, definitively say, that just simply isn't true.
This is a situation where a hunter didn't do proper homework to ensure that he was heading to an outfitting experience that matched his expectations, coupled with natural hunting conditions that further added to his frustration and disappointment. It all makes perfect sense as to why he's so upset, and I feel for the guy. I just wish he had used even a little of the experiences from his 68 years of life, to handle this volatile situation in a reasonable fashion.
Again, please accept my apology for incorrectly addressing you. That was careless on my part, and detracts from what I'm really trying to say.