papa58
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| 10 Oct 2012 10:22 PM |
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if you were getting a pistol for your wife to learn to shoot which one would you get her and why |
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jhunt
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| 10 Oct 2012 10:32 PM |
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depending on hand size glock full size compact or sub compact the greatest thing about them is that the 9mm 357sig and 40s&w are all on the same frame demensions and can all be shot out of the same gun 9mm would be the better for bulk ammo avalability then 40 then 357 personally i carry 40 preferably then use 9mm for extended range time |
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cbrown36
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| 11 Oct 2012 02:41 AM |
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Go with the one that she is the most comfortable with. jhunt I didn't know you could shoot .40 out of a 9mm or am I misunderstanding you.
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jmohr3
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| 11 Oct 2012 06:43 AM |
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If I could toss in 2 cents worth - for protection, maybe especially for a woman, I would consider a 38 or 357 revolver, light frame (maybe a 5-shot) and perhaps hammer-less. My thought here is; revolvers do not jam like semi-autos do. Last thing you want is for your wife or love one to need to protect themselves to only have the weapon jam. Many of us who have been shooting a lot and have faced similar adversity can manage through that. My wife is an excellent shot but I am sure she couldn't deal with a jam in a life or death situation. 38 or 357 is powerful enough to do the job as wold a 9mm or 40 S&W, and finally as for the hammer-less, that leaves one less thing to get snagged coming out of a holster, purse, or other carrier. They come in all frame sizes so finding a good fit isn't an issue. Hope this made sense..... J |
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Big Dawg
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| 11 Oct 2012 07:14 AM |
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I would also suggest a good small frame S&W .357 revolver and have her use the +P .38 loads and she can use the regular .38's for practive and when she is ready move her up to the +P .38's. With the revolver all she has to do is pull it out and start pulling the trigger and don't stop till it is out of ammo !!! |
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Shiloh
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| 11 Oct 2012 07:41 AM |
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.38 Spl double action revolver. But if you have decided to handicap her with a semi-auto to learn with, either caliber you mention is fine. The 9x19mm recoils a tad less than the .40 S&W and both fit the same magazine/grip size and pistol size. The .40 has a tad more "knock-down" power however the 1st rule is to make sure you put bullets into the tillain, caliber and cartridge names are secondary in importance. |
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TGJ
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| 11 Oct 2012 08:19 AM |
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A gun to learn to shoot would be 22. A gun for protection and learning would be 9mm. Much cheaper to shoot and a lot less recoil, both of which mean more practice. A semi auto is not a handicap to learning how to shoot poor instruction is the issue. |
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jhunt
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| 11 Oct 2012 09:42 AM |
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Posted By cbrown36 on 11 Oct 2012 03:41 AM
Go with the one that she is the most comfortable with. jhunt I didn't know you could shoot .40 out of a 9mm or am I misunderstanding you.
cbrown 36 I should have slightly clarified but hopefully this clears it up - With the Glock 9mm .40 and .357 auto family the frame demensions of the full size, target, compact, subcompact, and longslide models are exactly the same for all 3 calibers. For example with my full size Glock 22 Gen 4 .40 S&W, I can takedown the slide assembly, remove the .40 S&W barrel and slide in a .357 SIG barrel and bada bing bada boom I now can shoot both calibers out of the same gun. (While changing back to the appropriate barrel for each caliber of course) There is no other change necessary unless you want to specifically have the .357 SIG magazines as they fit and function through .40 magazines. The same process can be applied to switch between 9mm, however this time you do need the caliber specific magazines. Then the .22lr conversion kit is there, and I'm still trying to research this to see if it would work as well but the possiblity of .380ACP may be there as well since it is very similar to the 9x18mm and the regular 9mm is a 9x19mm.
Hope that helped clarify for you.
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MOSSBERG 100ATR .30-06
CVA OPTIMA .50 BP
MARLIN 25 N .22LR
BROWNING CITORI 425 SPORTING 12 GA WITH 20GA-.410 BRILEY TUBES
NEF .410 BERSA THUNDER 380 GLOCK GEN4 G22 |
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Big Dawg
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| 11 Oct 2012 03:22 PM |
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In a panic situation the less things to deal with in a handgun the faster you can get in the fight so a revolver is as I said as simple as it gets. Threat assessed and the decision has been made to engage so with the revolver all she needs to do is as I described, pull the handgun, point, pull trigger till empty !!! Some people get flustered when confronted with an agressor and have problems with the safety's and such. KISS !!! |
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Shiloh
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| 11 Oct 2012 03:54 PM |
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After seeing scores of people that "know" their guns in the stress-shooting scenarios over the years fall apart when confronted by a paper target, and having been in the same scenarios myself, I steer everyone I can to a double action revolver. Almost all police ought to be packing a revolver for the same reason. (I need my 17 round clip and 3 spare 17 round clips! Huh??) Military can stick to autos for the higher magazine capacity, but in reality could and might should go to a heavier caliber 6-shooter. The same guys that gripe about the puny 9s and want mighty .45s often complain that a mere revolver doesn't have the capacity they want. So, a 7-shot 1911 throwing .45 ACP hard-ball is superior to a much more reliable 6-shot .45 ACP revolver or even a .44 Spl or .45 Colt? The real down side to the big caliber revolvers is size and that is about all there is. On my own autos, I do not carry any and have pretty much gone to the "Safe-Action" or Double-action-only versions for simplicity. No added external manual safeties. Not needed! And unless you practice - a lot, not just standing there on a pretty day plinking paper but with cover, someone shouting at you, moving, rolling around, and with an occasional dummy round loaded in a magazine you cannot master the auto. The same stress stuff needs to be used in revolver use, but the monotonous reliability and simplicty of them rules out the jams almost completely making them easier to learn. Not as "sexy" for sure, but like a beat up F-150 I'd trust it over a Corvette for our purposes. When the Zombie Apocolypse starts and we all muster into the militia you fellas will know who I am because I'll be the one packing my 4" Mod-19 .357 Mag nad feeling just fine. Don't fret none as you are frantically trying to clear your jam-o-matic because my revolver will be backing you up. We'll work together and re-kill all the zombies. |
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PVIGILETTI
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| 11 Oct 2012 04:22 PM |
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Get a S&W586 with a 4in barrel stuff with 38's until she can handle the gun and shoot it comfortably and then try some 357mags. |
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jmohr3
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| 11 Oct 2012 06:15 PM |
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Again, without being redundant, I firmly believe the revolver is the right answer. As for the issue of having problems with the safety on a semi auto, interestingly enough, the last three semi auto pistols I have purchased do not have a safety on them. What's up with that? Trying to make them cheaper? J |
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gopheer1
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| 11 Oct 2012 06:49 PM |
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Bought my other half a s&w 686 and also the m&p 40 (no safety) she loves them both. |
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ahoffman2
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| 11 Oct 2012 09:09 PM |
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Good grief, whats all this nonesense about " Whats the best gun for my poor lil puny wife"? I have everything from Pop Guns to Canons!, my wife shoots'um all! Regardless of what guns I take to the shootin' pit, if I don't bring a whole durn truck load of ammo with me, she durn well lets me know about it! She is a shootaholic! I had 3 daughters, two were very petite, but owned there own .357s, before they were 12. One became a career military. peaked out at 5'1', 105 lbs, yet qualified expert with the .45acp! |
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blake_beau
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| 12 Oct 2012 09:20 AM |
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My wife's first gun was a Ruger Mark 3 .22 caliber. It was good and heavy and it really helped her build up the strength in her hands and wrist. Plus it was much cheaper to put the rounds through than a 9mm or .40. By the time she upgraded to a 9mm glock, she was much more comfortable and, knock on wood, hasn't had any jams due to "limp wristing" yet! I would recommend starting with a .22 because they are cheap and fun to shoot and they give you good experience clearing jammed casings. |
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handloader1
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| 12 Oct 2012 06:32 PM |
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Lady Smith .357 Mag. Good luck. |
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northwoodshunter
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| 12 Oct 2012 09:13 PM |
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again i would go with a revolver though i have and do carry and cocked and locked 1911 there is still a revolver close by. everyone can say they can clear a jam or take off the saftey or even pull the trigger if ever need be but the reality is not very many people actually can. if it's for home protection strongly consider a shotgun nothing says get the **** out like a shotgun pump being racked its a universal language |
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Big Dawg
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| 13 Oct 2012 04:52 AM |
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20ga pump loaded with #4 birdshot will completely ruin a crminal's day everytime. |
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grandpops
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| 13 Oct 2012 05:32 AM |
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Start her with a .22. If you're planning on going to a semi-auto try a Ruger MkIII, Browning Buckmark, Sig 1911-22, or Beretta Neos. If going with a revolver, try something like a Ruger Single Six, Heritage Rough Rider, or some other Western Style single action revolver. Let her build her confidence and abilities with a .22 first before advancing to something a little more intimidating. |
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papa58
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| 13 Oct 2012 11:25 PM |
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She all ready has a s&w 357 6 inch barrel and knows how to shoot as for home big dawg I have 3 12 gauges dbl oo buck in them and told her just point and pump till empty. just wanted to know if the 9 0r 40 had any big differences as for as shooting. I have taught all 3 of my daughters to shoot and hunt they know the difference in protection get the stove pipes first and shoot till they are empty then get the handguns to check when they are down. Thanks for the advice guys. |
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| Papa 58 Semper Fi God Bless our Troops all across this world. Shoot straight & be safe USMC Devil Dogs forever Bravo Company 1/5 1976-1977 3rd Marines 1977-1979 2/6 HQTRS Co. 1979-1980 Life Member NAHC |
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