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| 10 Jul 2012 01:38 AM |
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I just bought a new Stevens 200 in .243win. The idea is a economical rifle that will mostly be used for coyote hunting until my son is old enough to use it on whitetails. The gun was purchased new in the box for $329.99 now I need to put a decent scope on it that will last a long time. I'm leaning to a Redfield Revolutin 3-9 x40 (I like the idea of made in the us just like the stevens is) or a Nikon Buckmaster 3-9x40. I have a Bushnell elite 3200 on my remington 700bdl that I like alot but looking through the new Cabelas shooting catalog it looks as though they don't make them any more but have listed a Bushnell Legend Ultra HD 3-9x40 for about the same price as the Redfield and Nikon. Any thoughts on these scopes or any others would be very helpful in my decion making. Thanks! |
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Big Dawg
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| 10 Jul 2012 06:36 AM |
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Don't overlook the Swift brand line as they are excellant scopes for the money. The semi auto rifle that is very hard on a scope is the Mini 30 with it's very fast and violent recoil. After breaking a couple of other brand name entry level scopes so they installed the Swift scope and never a problem. You can check them out here at www.swift-sportoptics.com and there are also USA made www.hi-lux.com which are another brand that have been around a long time and are also very durable and cost effective. Let us know which scope you end up buying please. |
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TGJ
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SteelCandy
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| 10 Jul 2012 02:38 PM |
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Don't laugh but I have found the BSA scopes to be every bit as durable as scopes that cost 10x as much. I have a BSA Deerhunter on an ar in 6.8, a BSA Catseye ( very old ) on a .300 winmag and a newer Catseye on a .270 Win. I have fired 25 rounds as fast as I could pull the trigger on the ar and no problem for the scope. |
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dk99300
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| 10 Jul 2012 07:33 PM |
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First off, I have read no bad reports about the Redfield Revolution line. 2nd, Bushnell rolled the Elite 3200 line and the Elite 4200 line into one (using the standards for the 4200 line). And they still have the Rainguard coating which I think is great for a hunting rifle. 3rd, Cabelas is not a cheap place for optics unless you catch a sale.
I said all that to say "Shop around." I use Bear Basin Outfitters for a lot of my optics purchases. They have the Bushnell Elite 3-9X40 listed at $235 and they also have free shipping on purchases over $199.
Cameraland NY, SWFA and others also offer great prices. Of course, you could also shop local, it's nice to actually see what you are getting and notice the differences BEFORE you plunk down your hard earned cash. One other note, I have a Weaver V9 that I like a lot, it was on my 270 for a few years and is now on a 223.
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TOM IN TENNESSEE
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| 11 Jul 2012 11:07 AM |
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Don't find anything wrong with most of comments....agree with DAWG that Swift makes good lower end cost wise scopes..
I always follow my personal rule of buy as good of glass as you can afford.....and contrary to one opine above, it is worth it in the long run. That goes for binocs too!!
I have the same 3-9 Leupold on my 7mmMag that has been on it since I got the firearm over 20 years ago----it has been rained on , snowed on, fogged in on, 109 Zambia tempertured on dropped and slid bouncing down a mountain, shipped on airlines that destoyed two cases it was in bad enuff to buy new cases....it was off about 1-inch once and 2-inch once.....at my standsrd zero of 2.5 high at 300 yds---still in kill zone. |
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| 12 Jul 2012 01:40 AM |
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I had never heard of Swift optics before. Did some research and a guy at work told me he seen a ad on tv once for them, I went online and found there is outfitter shop one town west of me that sells them and a hardware store 2 towns south that carry them as well. Guess I'm taking a trip this weekend to check them out. I have also added a Leupold VX-1 3-9x40 to my list of possibilitys. I buy very little from cabelas I just use the catalog as referance material (window shopping unpluged at home) I prefer to buy localy when ever I can. I'll keep you all up to date as the decision process continues. Thanks for all the input! |
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Big Dawg
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| 12 Jul 2012 05:13 AM |
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The Swift tactical scope they offer is a great buy without breaking the bank and if my memory serves me ( I have part time old timers ) they are just under $300.00 and they have agreat warranty and the one time I dealt with their customer service it was a pleasant experience. Not a problem with the scope itself but they had sent the wrong model number scope. I agree with Tom in that I try and spend as much as I can afford when it comes to both scopes and binos. I also understand ( believe me when I tell you this as I am on a fixed income ) trying to get the best possible for the lowest price but have found it is cheaper in the long run to spend a little more upfront than to replace a not so good scope 2-3 times and endup spending more had I just bought the higher priced one to start with. Keep us posted as to which scope you get and the cost if you don't mind. Then of course once bought, mounted, and sighted give us your results. I am going on the belief that you already know that you will need a minimum of 200 rounds downrange to validate both the rifle and scope. Thanks ! |
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SteelCandy
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| 12 Jul 2012 02:57 PM |
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I know most disagree, but after my $ 219.99 leupold rifleman 3x9 decided it was not as shock resistant as I needed ( bad luck to slide down a mountain and bounce off a tree 50 feet lower and hitting the STOCK not the scope and had the crosshairs twisted 45 degrees and fogged up and being short on fundage). I bought a $22 on sale BSA Deerhunter 3x9. Used it on a Rem 700 in .270 Win and it never fogged, took some serious bumps and bruises and now on my ar it is still going strong. I would suggest seeing what your friends have and ask their opinions. |
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Steve
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| 12 Jul 2012 06:23 PM |
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Gotta side with the 'get the best glass you can afford' camp.
I have a 3x9 Leupold on my deer rifle and very much like it. But I put a Burris Signature Select 44mm on my 12 gauge (have to use slugs around here) and I think I actually like it as well or better than the Leupold. |
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TOM IN TENNESSEE
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| 14 Jul 2012 02:30 PM |
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My earlier post was wrong...hit a "3" intead or a "2"...200 yds not 300yds
Since I can't line up three objects with my old eyes, everything I shoot has glass except shotguns.....I got 1 Swarovski ( 1.5-6) on my .416Rigby, one Buriss, two Swift, and the rest---say 20+ , on ML, Revolvers and rifles from from .22 to 7mmMag....BTW, I mounted a Simmons once....gave it away real soon! |
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A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone
PROUD PRO STAFFER--www.heirloomgamecalls.com, hand made , hand tuned and hand tested, Hunt ARK ducks with www.smackinquack.com
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| 01 Aug 2012 01:58 AM |
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All right guys its been a few weeks and I thank you for all your input. I finally made a decision on a scope! I purchased a Bushnell Trophy XLT with the DOA reticle today for a total price of $152.49 I don't know if I'll ever need a 600 yard aimming point but it'll be nice to know its there. The scope seems close to what my elite 3200 is but minus the Rainguard coating. I can't wait to mount it (in weaver rings and bases) and take some shots to see how this combo performs. I will keep you all up to date and include pictures when I get the chance. Thanks again! |
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dk99300
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| 01 Aug 2012 07:34 PM |
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Get the Burris Signature Zee rings. Similar to Weavers but they have an insert that grips the scope, prevents ring marks, and eliminates the need for lapping the rings. They also have eccentric inserts available. If your rifle happens to have the mounting holes drilled off center, the eccentric inserts allow you to come pretty close to zero without using the scopes adjustments. Then you fine tune with the scope as normal. This keeps your adjustments close to center instead of being cranked hard one way or the other.
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TOM IN TENNESSEE
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| 03 Aug 2012 03:13 PM |
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Dale, good advise! |
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| Soddy Daisy Tennessee USA,
A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone
PROUD PRO STAFFER--www.heirloomgamecalls.com, hand made , hand tuned and hand tested, Hunt ARK ducks with www.smackinquack.com
I am an uncompensated, non-attorney spokesperson |
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SDOWLING
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| 04 Aug 2012 03:08 PM |
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Posted By dk99300 on 01 Aug 2012 08:34 PM
Get the Burris Signature Zee rings. Similar to Weavers but they have an insert that grips the scope, prevents ring marks, and eliminates the need for lapping the rings. They also have eccentric inserts available. If your rifle happens to have the mounting holes drilled off center, the eccentric inserts allow you to come pretty close to zero without using the scopes adjustments. Then you fine tune with the scope as normal. This keeps your adjustments close to center instead of being cranked hard one way or the other.
Dale
I use these on all my bolt guns - love them !
.17HMR through .338WM
Never a problem................. |
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Big Dawg
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| 05 Aug 2012 06:22 AM |
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These folks are having a great sale on Nikon scopes http://www.midsouthshooters.com and with the dealer and company rebates the prices are the best in a long time. |
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SteelCandy
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| 05 Aug 2012 11:31 AM |
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Posted By dk99300 on 01 Aug 2012 08:34 PM
Get the Burris Signature Zee rings. Similar to Weavers but they have an insert that grips the scope, prevents ring marks, and eliminates the need for lapping the rings. They also have eccentric inserts available. If your rifle happens to have the mounting holes drilled off center, the eccentric inserts allow you to come pretty close to zero without using the scopes adjustments. Then you fine tune with the scope as normal. This keeps your adjustments close to center instead of being cranked hard one way or the other.
Dale
As usual Dale, great advice! |
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