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09 Sep 2012 12:06 PM
TW, since this is the first year of this hunting season I'm giving the DNR a pass. Hopefully they'll be better organized next year.
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09 Sep 2012 04:43 PM
I heard the wolves again Saturday night.   I checked the trail cam today only one deer picture.

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15 Sep 2012 07:09 PM
Posted By Lunkerdog on 23 Aug 2012 11:25 AM
TW, I hope I guessed right. They had the seasons listed as early hunt/late hunt/late trapping. I assumed that option B was the late hunt, and applied for that option.

Niemz, if the trend continues I think that everyone who applies will get a license. I was listening to NPR yesterday and they stated that just 3000 of the 6000 licenses have been applied for. I have to admit that I was pretty surprised. If you would have asked me a couple of months ago I would have guessed that about 25% of deer hunters would be applying for a wolf license. That would have been over 200,000 applicants. So much for my speculation!!! 

As I've been thinking about this I've been thinking that I didn't here it right. I was driving a noisy machine and working when the report was given. I thought they said that they had hit 3000 applicants. Based on the finale #'s I'm thinking that they had hit 23,000 applicants, and I heard it wrong.

It's still only about 1 tenth of the applicants that I expected

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18 Sep 2012 08:56 PM
I'm sure that none of us saw this coming

Imagine the timing

Minn. DNR sued over wolf hunt


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18 Sep 2012 10:19 PM
suprised it didnt come sooner.
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18 Sep 2012 11:04 PM
I ran the numbers but I don't know what I did with them, but it truns out those that applied for the early season wolf will have better odds of getting a license then those of us that did late season due to the ammount they are giving out in the early season. I guess I figured it would have been the other way around.
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19 Sep 2012 08:51 AM
http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/ev...id/243612/

Dang, these idiots won't go away! Good luck, y'all!
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19 Sep 2012 12:51 PM
Niemz, I believe that the late timing was intentional. We all know that the courts take time. I believe that their trying to get their injunction "just" before the season is scheduled to start so there won't be time for our side to appeal the decision before opening day

This is from Tom's link.

"Minnesota’s first wolf hunt in nearly a half-century is scheduled to begin Nov. 3 with the opening of the deer firearms season; the state’s rules provide that 6,000 licenses will be sold to kill 400 wolves. The lawsuit filed today asks the Minnesota Court of Appeals to prevent implementation of wolf hunting and trapping rules until the court can issue its decision in the case".

I hope that their little bit of "trickery" doesn't work!!!

TWolf, I'd like to see that breakdown. The odds are as dependent on how many hunters applied for each season as it is for the number of tags available. This is just a guess, but it would make sense to me that more people applied for the first season. Of course, I was so far off on my initial guess as to how many applicant's there would be in the first place I'm almost afraid to speculate anymore

Tom, this is also from your link.

Instead of offering a formal public comment period, the DNR offered an online survey before adopting the details of how wolves would be shot and trapped. More than 75 percent of the comments opposed killing wolves.

The groups also claim that lawmakers violated their own 2001 wolf management plan that called for a five-year moratorium on wolf hunting and trapping once the animals were taken off the federal endangered species list.


That management plan was put in place by a different congress 11 years ago. There has been plenty of "study" here in MN., and elsewhere since then.


I have not read the wolf hunting bill myself, but as I'm hearing it on MPR, the DNR was ordered by congress to organize a season for this Fall, so I can only guess that, that was in the bill.


If that's true hopefully it will be enough to sink the anti's case. The anti's are going after the DNR, but if I'm right the DNR was ordered by our state government to implement the wolf hunt.


IMO, this is just an attempt by the anti's to be disruptive, and in the end won't accomplish much more than that. Whether it's this year or not, the wolf hunt will eventually happen.


I don't know the logistics as to where any of these anti's live, but I'd bet that the overwhelming majority don't live in wolf country, and don't have to worry on a day to day basis whether or not one of their animals will be killed by wolfs.


Anyone that deals with the Minnesota Northwoods on a daily basis understands that over the years not only have the wolf #'s increased, but the wolves themselves have grown much bolder in their actions. On several occasions within the past five years I've had wolves within 150ft of my front door, and I've had them less than 100ft of my backdoor.


I've had discussions with our area Forrester, our area Game Warden, a Federal trapper and a local trapper that lives a mile away from us and has lost many an animal from his traps to wolves. It's a consensus amongst us that the wolves are getting  more than just a little out of control in this region.


For me the wolf hunt is more of a reclamation of my area than it is a recreational sport.


For me there is one good thing that came out of the de-listing of the wolves that this injunction (if it's successful) won't prevent. In March of 2011 when the wolves first came in after my dogs (that I'm aware of) I couldn't legally shoot them. If they come after my dogs now I can



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19 Sep 2012 09:29 PM
Lunke rI found the numbers. 12,067 applications for the early season with 3,600 licenses going out, which figures to be 1 out 3.35 will get a license. While 7,621 applied for the late season with 2,400 license with at least 600 going to trappers. So assuming it is only 600, that leaves 1800 licenses at a rate of 1 to 4.23 per applied.
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20 Sep 2012 04:02 PM
Thanks TWolf, so were just under a 25% chance (injunction not withstanding) of getting a tag.

I wonder how many trappers actually applied? I considered it, but when I thought it threw decided not to. At this point between not having the experience, and realizing that I would have to run several traps it seemed like to much to go for with such a short time to get organized. Besides, knowing my luck, even with my lack of experience I'd wind up catching two wolves

I'll see how it all shakes out this year. Who knows? Maybe next year I'll be more prepared to try the trapping.
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20 Sep 2012 05:11 PM
3,789 applied for trapping, so I am not sure exactly how that affects the late season hunting, because they said AT LEAST 600 will go to trappers. Could be more.
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20 Sep 2012 05:24 PM
LOL, I guess that with all of the other #'s provided in this post I could have figured that out for myself

I guess all we can do at this point is wait and see what happens
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21 Sep 2012 03:15 PM
As I have said before, good luck y'all!
BTW, there is also a law suit by AR's in WI.....go figure!
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21 Sep 2012 04:17 PM
Thanks Tom.

As far as WI. goes, I'm not sure if it's what your referring too, but I know that some groups were going after the use of dogs to hunt wolves, which IMHO is not a good way to hunt them anyway.

Not that I'm against running dogs for hunting. It's that knowing a little bit about the nature of wolves it doesn't seem like a very smart way to hunt them. They won't tree like a bear, or a cat, and they have such a large territory ( I could see one on my property right now, and it could be 50 miles away by this time tomorrow if I frighten in enough) it's unlikely that they will circle like a deer or fox will. Also the bear hunters in WI. have been complaining for years that the wolves have been killing their dogs when they're training them on bears.

I guess if you know your terrain well enough you may be able to catch them at certain pinch points, but predicting the actions of a pursued wolf is tricky.  They may take some young wolves using dogs, but all in all, it doesn't strike me as a very good idea.
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26 Sep 2012 12:00 PM

Rep. Dill: Wolf season will go on as scheduled

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26 Sep 2012 05:54 PM
I didn't get drawn

But the rest of you can check to see if you did here


results online

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26 Sep 2012 06:54 PM
-LD

Same result as you.

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27 Sep 2012 07:49 AM
No wolf tags for the wife or me.

Good luck to all the drew...
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27 Sep 2012 06:18 PM
Well, that shoots the 25% chance theory in the foot

That leaves Niemz, and TWolf, hopefully one of them will get drawn.
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27 Sep 2012 06:59 PM
These numbers do not add up,nada for me to.
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