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02 Feb 2012 06:21 AM
i know the news media would never stretch the the truth.believe none of what you read ,half of what you see,and niemz,my views are far from being liberal
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02 Feb 2012 09:06 AM
...l.. i agree with your statement, but it seels you are against walker and what he has done. From what I've gathered he has turn the budget around and the unions are pissed, makes no sense . If the people of WI want to go back into the red and have their taxes raised then by all means vote walker out. I have a feelin that won't happen, the union needed to be reined in some. The unions have abused their power for to long and it is going to bite them if they are not careful. If Wi fails to recall walker then you will see a land slide of govs doing the same. I personally hope and believe that walker will survive.;
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02 Feb 2012 07:56 PM
that is so old news, if you have not heard that u are not paying attetion to the right news. yes that is a true fact that buss driver did make that and one of the reasons we need a GOOD gov like walker no bs and stand up for everyone. I have a good freind and a prision gaurd and we sit and drink beer and talk about it. but we both go honme pissed at each other but still good hunting buddys. have that. libbs
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02 Feb 2012 08:46 PM
Right on rock, glad to hear someonelse knows whats going on up there. So you think walker will survive recall? I talked with congressman ryan and he seems to think that walker will, hope so.
By the way you know about the RIB archery club in racine?
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07 Feb 2012 05:42 AM
http://www.channel3000.com/politics...etail.html im sure mr walker had no knowledge of wrong doing, open your eyes people this man leaves a trail of corruption , and before you jump my ass too bad, jim doyle was also a useless pos ,eliminate all big money influence and do whats best for all legal citizens of wisconsin,somewhere their is a happy medium
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07 Feb 2012 06:47 AM
..I.. are you saying walker is not doing right by legal WI. residents?
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07 Feb 2012 08:00 AM
im saying we clean out the illegals so those who are working in wisconsin are paying taxes, every little bit will add up, look at all these fly by night drywall companies, some of these workers are fourteen dont speak a lick of english and have four ids .go to the walmart distribution center in beaver dam and yell, immigration,watch the building empty,im sure everybody knows somebody who is phucking the system, as long as big business influences government the taxpayer suffers,why should the public union employees be the whippin boy for everybody, there is a lot of wasted money elsewhere in the system.ask your self if you could absorb a 25% pay cut in your household income, and just to be clear,neither party is trustworthy
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07 Feb 2012 04:14 PM
http://www.channel3000.com/politics...etail.html this guy his brother and father could all go away too and do us all a favor
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07 Feb 2012 05:56 PM
Hey ..l.. I agree with you on the immigration issue. Don't forget Il. has all the illegals flocking here, It's time to crack down. But the public unions need to be cut too. Vote rep. this next election if you want illegal immigration dealt with.
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08 Feb 2012 08:28 AM
and some of those same illegals head north to double dip on any benefits they can get along with all the brood mares and other lazy phucks, i dont think voting rep. is going to fix immigration , but i can tell you that there is a 99% percent chance that i wont vote for the big eared dork in washington right now either, as for the public union, i am a private union construction worker my self and have worked along side both public union and nonunion .both public and private unions need to restructure themselves to provide the best of the best and not protect the phuckoffs that like to hide behind their union card. nonunion labor just scares the shiiit out of me, you have one person who is somewhat trained directing many untrained workers who are clueless , you may get the job done cheaper at first, but the quality is not there and many problems will arise that normaly dont when done by union mechanicals. a few years ago a floor collapsed on a UW building while being poured because a nonunion company had lack of knowledge on how to support it , you will find most of the good nonunion guys join the union or just form a small shop, but big buildings need to be done by union labor or you will pay more in the long run. i feel in the public union their could be a compromise where all would be satisfied. alot of the taxpayers wasted money comes from lack of decision making by the higher ups who are not union( im talking maintenance and construction),i want to know that the future generation is being taught by qualified teachers, you get what you pay for and i know alot of teachers that will be looking to change careers this summer because on the average most of them lost 600 a month in pay, all you know as well as i do the rising cost of health care is going to do most of us in
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08 Feb 2012 12:31 PM
honestly, i dont have a grief against unions. As an idea, they are a decent one.

But, when big money gets involved, anyone would rather get the money than protect their fellow union brother. Look at the MPS system. Before act 10, MPS signed a contract extension of 2 years, with the understanding from the unions that should the act 10 be passed, and the MPS could save money, MPS and the union would meet again and renegotiate the contract. Fast forward a month later, and I am hearing about how MPS is being forced to lay off 200 teachers because the unions refused to renegotiate the contract, which was only asking for a 5% contribution to pension, and 8% payment to healthcare. The union said no. They didnt want to help their fellow 200 union brothers because "we have to pay for health care, AND the pension?? outrageous!". If they had met and agreed, 200 teachers would be employeed right now in the MPS system...

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01 May 2012 07:36 AM
F'in UNIONS CAN KISS MY BIG WHITE A** GO WALKER GO !!!!!!!!!!! first time in 10 years hunting, fishing and camping fees were not raised !!!!!!! to buy votes form unions
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02 May 2012 01:17 PM
I support Walker, unions have become more powerful than the mafia, and about as corrupt too.
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03 May 2012 05:59 PM
SORRY GUYS AND ...i... you better grab your ankles cuz do the math Walkers geetn back in and no more sick days for you to call in to go hunting. LMAO.
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12 May 2012 08:17 AM
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12 May 2012 08:21 AM
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12 May 2012 01:00 PM
Who cares, it's not about the unions anymore, it's jobs now.  The union whining may have started this, but now that is in the rear view mirror. Faulk got whipped playing the union line and I really don't think it's important to the masses anymore. No matter who gets in, the public unions are still screwed. WEAC will have to get back to reality.
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13 May 2012 07:54 AM
leading the nation in job loss is enough for me. its easy to tell when walker is lying... his lips are moving
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13 May 2012 05:34 PM
What they forgot to mention was those were from schools that hurried and signed union contract extensions.  aka, layoffs...fools
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24 May 2012 07:59 PM

EXCLUSIVE: Analysis finds Wisconsin’s Act 10 saving taxpayers big


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By M.D. Kittle Wisconsin Reporter

MADISON — While a lightning rod for controversy and recall, Wisconsin’s Act 10 has paid significant dividends to taxpayers, according to a new analysis by the Beacon Hill Institute for Public Policy Research, at Suffolk University in Boston.

Act 10, which curbed collective bargaining for most unionized public employees, in the whole has saved taxpayers more than $1 billion, according to The Economic Impacts of the Wisconsin Budget Repair Act. The study is slated for release this week by Beacon Hill Institute, a prominent free market think tank.

What the analysis found is that without the law, which in part requires covered public employees to contribute more to their benefits and holds wage increases to the rate of inflation, Badger State governments would have been forced to raise taxes or make deep job cuts to meet budget expenses.

As it was, Gov. Scott Walker and the Republican-controlled Legislature pushed through reforms and reductions that filled a $3.6 billion budget shortfall, although organized labor asserts Republicans balanced the budget on the backs of public employees.

The measure drew the ire of organized labor and the Democratic Party, with tens of thousands of protesters packing the Capitol. Ultimately, it was the Walker-led reforms that launched a recall campaign in which the governor in two weeks must defend his term at the polls, facing Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett in a historic gubernatorial recall election.

The Beacon Institute analysis argues the law may have been controversial, even divisive, but there’s no disputing its benefit to taxpayers.

“The cost-saving measures prevented painful tax increases that would have damaged the state’s private economy resulting in slower job and income growth,” said Paul Bachman, BHI director of research. “Moreover, the provisions avoided further painful layoffs of school teachers and other public employees.”

There have been numerous media reports of school districts and municipalities that have balanced their budgets or hired more educators by employing the so-called tools of Act 10.

Municipalities will realize annual cost savings of between $775 million and $1.2 billion, according to the analysis.

Lower taxes ‘at what cost?’

BHI also found that, by not raising taxes to cover the $3.6 billion budget gap, the state prevented the loss of 11,500 to 14,000 private sector jobs “by keeping more money in the hands of households and businesses.”

More so, the cost savings, according to the institute, helped spare as many as 6,500 public sector jobs that faced the budget ax in the absence of the Budget Repair bill.

The public-sector shed 17,900 jobs between March 2011 and March 2012, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Bachman said the public-sector cuts could have been a lot more severe without reforms to state collective-bargaining laws.

Keeping taxes in check boosted real disposable income in Wisconsin by as much as $1.03 billion, overall. The increase, according to the report, takes into account lower disposable income levels of the about 445,000 public-sector workers in the state, Bachman said.

That’s a point not lost on John Matthews, executive director of Madison Teachers Inc., the union for the state’s second largest school district.

“If people aren’t going to pay higher taxes as they were, they do have more money in their pocket, but at what cost to society?” Matthews said. “When my water is not clean and I get sick, I’m going to ask what the hell is going on.”

But supporters of Act 10 have argued that asking public employees to contribute more to their health insurance premiums and something to their pensions is on many occasions still much less than what private-sector employees are paying.

Economic spur?

The BHI study found budget reforms freed up as much as $350 million in investment in the state.
A correlation? Perhaps. The State Department of Revenue data shows tax revenue is up this year — at least a sign of an improving economy.

Individual income tax collections topped $928 million in April, up 3.6 percent from the same month last year, according to the state Department of Revenue. On the year, income tax collections neared $5.5 billion, up 4.5 percent compared to the first four months of last year.

General sales and use tax collections soared 9.5 percent in April, to $356 million, and were up 4.8 percent in the first four months, to $3.16 billion.

Budget reforms also spurred Wisconsin’s first decline in property taxes in more than a decade.

The Walker administration has reported property taxes had risen 43 percent since 1998, asserting that the average taxpayer would have paid an additional $700 over the current biennium without the budget reforms.

The property tax decrease is largely attributable to state imposed revenue caps, according to the nonpartisan Wisconsin Taxpayers’ Alliance.

Walker’s spokesman Cullen Werwie stuck to message when asked about Act 10’s reported savings to taxpayers.

“Governor Walker’s reforms have improved government services, controlled property taxes and helped the private sector create jobs,” he told Wisconsin Reporter in an email, noting an administration report based on Bureau of Labor Statistics data that shows Wisconsin’s economy created more than 23,000 jobs last year.

State Sen. Glenn Grothman, R-West Bend, who helped in the narrow passage of Act 10, said he believes the benefit of the tax savings is dwarfed by the ability of school districts to control their workforce, promoting better employees and getting rid of the worst employees.

“The schools are able to can bad employees and tell mediocre employees they have to do better. How can you operate a business without that?” Grothman said.

The American Federation of State and Municipal Employees Madison office declined to comment on the story, having not seen the study.

But Matthews of the Madison teachers union said Act 10 took a system that has worked well for 40 years and blew it up in smoke. It’s a collective-bargaining system, Matthews said, that required the best and brightest to constantly improve, to the ultimate benefit of Wisconsin’s classrooms.

“When we’re trying to encourage the best and brightest to teach our kids, we’re not going to do that,” he said. “Who in their right mind is going to take a job based on wages (that are) $10,000 less?

“We have young teachers who can’t qualify to get mortgage for a home. This makes no sense.”

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