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Is it a shell holder or is it where you put the shell holder.

Thanks for answering. Actually it is the shell holder thing that you put the shell holder into.The gap in the tool that the shell holder goes into is about 1/8" and the shell holder is about a 1/4" wide..It won't fit.
Did they send me the wrong shell holders.
Joe Termite

you should give lee a call and ask them about it. You might try twisting the shell holder as you try to put it in.

All the twisting and pushing would not have fixed this problem. Because I am new at this I did not know that a bullet holder should have been in the box with the two dies. There was not one. The bullet holder that came with the kit was one of 11 that was in the green box that came with the kit. The man at the gun shop that sells alot of reloading equipment sait that the shell holder that I showed him was for some type of hand loader?????? .
So for $4.99 for a #5 shell holder that has the little thing on the bottom that fits into the bigger thing on the piston, I am now starting to reload.
Oh yea, while I was there I picked up my new A Bolt in .300 win mag that I ordered last week.
The model I bought has a boss on the end. According to the manuel I do not have to pick a load for the gun, I can just change the boss to fine tune the gun for the load. It also says that that the gun will shoot groups less that 1" at one hundred yards.(will see) and with a 30 to 50 % recoil reduction.
God I love this sport.

Joe Termite

http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/larg...tId=733635    this is what he was talking about  http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/default.aspx?productNumber=665540  this is the other part

I talked to Lee yesterday. Wyhen you buy there .300 win mag die set, it does not come with a shell holder. Also when you get ther kit the bullet shaver thingdoes not come with a piston.
Thought I would pass this on.
Joe

Joe, What in the h- e double hocky sticks are you talking about. Go out and buy a good reloading manuel and read it from end to end twice!!!!! Thingeys and doodads are not in there. Learn the correct nomenclenture so you don't sound like an idiot. P.S. no such thing as a bullet shaver thing. JEES

DITTO!!

I am with you there Hutter1.. Sounds like someone went and bought a loading kit and just thought you pour in some powder and put the bullet threw a "bullet shaver thing" and you are good to go.
Joetermite.. You need to get some books... "more than one on reloading, and read them as was said. This is a fun sport, if done right.. sorry ... I have seen some bad things happen when someone just thinks as I stated above, and they end up with a piece of crap gun, and maybe hurt themselves..

Joe reloading is fairly easy to learn but there is a rather steep learning curve at the beginning. If your press did not come with instructions on set up, get one. If your package did not come with a reloading manual, get one. Reloading is for one thing paying close attention to fine detail. Not doing so can get you in the ER or at worse, the morgue. Reloading can be best described as staying inside the box rather than thinking outside the box. Now pick up that manual and get you some education. I have been reloading for many years and still refer to the book frequently and my list I made up of the steps I use in reloading gets used all the time.

Got it all figured out several months ago. Went to South Carolina several weeks ago. Shot a nice five pointer with my reloads. The shot was at 100 yards. So far thisis the longest shot I havetaken atadeer. Here in N.J. the farthest I can see is about 50 yards in the woods. I am loading IMR 4350 behind a 180 grain Nosler accua tip. The shot took the heart out. The deer ran about 30 yards. Thanks for all the help. Yes the reloader and the die set did not come with a shell holder. After we figured that out and got one we did fine. I am shooting 1 1/2 to 2 inch groups at 200 yards. Also the Burris eliminator scope worked great.

Joe that is why most all of us reload. We first get into it to save a few greenbacks. Then we find our made at home fodder is better than factory offerings and we go on an accuracy quest to make customized loads for our particular rifle(s). Some of us may even delve into the world of wildcats where we have to custom form the ammo as there is no commercial ammo made and as you already realized the satisfaction factor of hunting with ammo you custom made.

Joe, I am a little confused as to why you started reloading? I started reloading 10 yrs ago when a box or 300WBY MAG ammo was $49.95 to save money. Once I started to play around with different loads I saw how accurate my reloads were to factory ammunition. I also saw a big savings in my wallet. I now reload so that I know exactly how that bullet in the chamber is going to fire. I have tuned each one of my rifles to the bullet and load that it likes. The bullet I am shooting in my WBY now is a Hornady 165 gr SST at 2800 fps, with 64.1 gr of IMR 4350. The grouping on this load is 4 shots the size of my thumbnail at 100 yrds. One thing you may also want to check on is the COL of the bullets you are reloading. Check how the bullet seats in the rifle. This can also increase the accuracy of your reloads. Each rifle is different and a little can make a lot of difference. Best of luck to you and your future in relaoding.

gsummers, now you have me confused. Are you loading for target work or hunting? If hunting, why would you give up over 400 fps velocity? Sure, accuracy is nice but deer and elk have a target area the size of a dinner plate. 400 fps will flatten the trajectory a lot and allow less wind drift. A 30-06 will do 2900 with the 165's and use less powder in a cheaper case. Your load just doesn't make sense to me.

JoeT; glad to hear you had a successful trip!
While most of us started out reloading to save some money, almost all of us soon realize it's just a way to shoot MORE with the same money.
One thing about 2800 fps for a 165grainer in a 300 Wby is that the brass will last about forever if you remember to anneal the necks periodically. Now that's saving money.

gsummers..I am with dk99300.. you have me confused also.. I load 300 weatherby mag for a friend. He shoots 165 grain seirra's and I use 75 grains of IMR 4350, and the velocity is right at 3068 fps.. You stated that you are only loading 64.1 grains and are getting 2800 fps.. I am kind of finding that a little hard to believe.. And loading the case down that much you are bound to get a non cosistant burn of the powder. Dropping the charge by 11 grains is only putting about 60% of the case capacity. ARe you sure of your load????

Isn't there something about not reducing the slow powders below starting loads? Some sort of weird powder burn curve and the gun goes KaBoom? I'm working from memory but I seem to remember something along those lines.

Dale

Lowering the powder charge to much can cause extreme pressures. This was explained to me one time. If you lower the charge as to where the powder is laying in the lower part of the case when the cartrige is on it's side. The primer will ignite the powder out next to the bullet first and try to push back instead of pushing the bullet out the barrel. This may happen one in a million. but I would rather not see that one..

Good point SMIRACLE. What can also happen is when the powder level is below the flash hole it can ignite powder the length of the case and cause a much different burn pattern than when the powder is only ignited at the flash hole as happens when the case is much fuller.