Since we all know that the politicians will never admit that they jumped the gun on trying to take "assult" weapons out of the publics hands, do you think they will drop it or just keep going after our right to own hand buns also? http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/to...5#50208495

The ultimate goal is total gun bans, anyhow. This isn't about the so called "assault weapons", it's about the Feds taking control of our lives and trashing the Constitution while solidifying the socialist state.

Keep in mind that the video was made on the 15th of December, the morning after the shooting.

We all saw the shoddy reporting after this tragedy. I don't know if that was a result of bad sources, or manipulation by the authorities, or the press, but there was a lot of misinformation immediately after the shooting.

It's all about the agenda... from Fast and Furious to Bengahzi to Sandy Hook ... report the incidents irregardless of facts.

Obama believes that the Americans people will do whatever he wishes ... he is right about a large percentage of mindless idiots.

All one needed to do is to watch the MSM during his inauguration and watch the show those idiots put on... reminded me of one of those gay parades!

I believe the MSM is anti-gun. They will do just about anything to promote their agenda. I believe Sandy Hook happen, and I do not believe anyone has set up, arranged or caused it or other shootings to happen. I believe they do not hesitate to exploit such horrific events, to further their gun control agenda. And if need be will leave out important information and or manipulate it to meet their needs.
They know there are people out there who have never pick up a gun, and know little if anything about them. They do not call them stupid, ignorant or any of the such. That is reservered for those who do understand guns, and oppose them. They act like they are teaching them about guns, without insulting them, but attempt to show how ignorant and uncareing the gun owners are. They feed them misinformation, and show only the facts that benifit their cuase and agenda. There are a lot of questions about the facts at sandy hook, but saying it did not happen or was arranged only plays into an feeds the Anti-gun crowds attempts at misleading misinformation. The people they are tring to convence their agenda is right are not stupid or ignorant other than their ignorance of or about guns, which is not a shameful thing. We must educate those people without being out right insulting, as we so offtin are even without knowing it.

The point I'm trying to make is that these are not "new findings" as the thread title suggests. If you scroll down the page on the link it has the date that this was reported.

With all the misinformation that came out early on after the shootings it's no wonder there's so much speculation about what really happened

Yup, it makes no difference. It's all about control. I sometimes wonder if some of these shootings are set ups. However, there is also a part of me that believes the media is just being told to report A LOT more shootings than normal; even those that are small and would seem almost irrelevant on a national level (at least that would have been a few years ago). And of course, the media never runs stories about the guns that SAVE lives.

Posted By Lunkerdog on 23 Jan 2013 05:49 PM
The point I'm trying to make is that these are not "new findings" as the thread title suggests. If you scroll down the page on the link it has the date that this was reported.

With all the misinformation that came out early on after the shootings it's no wonder there's so much speculation about what really happened

I was told years ago by my mother ... in order to be a good liar... you better have a good memory!

The truth is something this Administration including their news media propaganda arm, could care less about... it's more about keeping everyone  off balanced and confused.

I read somewhere...someone else did something similar!

Posted By Duckbuster on 23 Jan 2013 06:04 PM
Yup, it makes no difference. It's all about control. I sometimes wonder if some of these shootings are set ups. However, there is also a part of me that believes the media is just being told to report A LOT more shootings than normal; even those that are small and would seem almost irrelevant on a national level (at least that would have been a few years ago). And of course, the media never runs stories about the guns that SAVE lives.

Duck only a few of us are willing to even remotely entertain the notion the shootings were set up. It does need to be ruled outno matter how remote.
It is much more believeable, that the media would step up their reporting of any event involveing a gun of any type. We know as fact some sort of gun violance happens everyday. And while facts show over all gun violance has dropped, the reporting of it has increased. Thus it would appear in the news at least, gun violance is increaseing. Smoke and Mirriors. Which Address LDs and your concerns in that aspect.

The Today Show on MSN, stating Officials stated there were only handguns found in side, the rifle was found in the car. So why did the medical examiner say and continue to say they were all shot with the long gun? Was it a shotgun found in the trunk, or was the Bushmaster, or both.
If they were not shot with a/the rifle, why do they continue to push that it was. There is a lot to question, without questioning that it even happened, or if it was set up. The antis love the distractions from the truth and or facts. Because they know there are people out there they can mislead, and use our own  misleading,misinformation and arguements againest us. Who is easier to believe, someone who appears to be telling some of the truth, or someone who is saying it did not happen ,or it was set up.

This was debunked very soon after it hit the air waves .When the autopsies were done the corner came out and said the majority were shot with a 223 built .

I've had several folks who are neither gun friendly, or anti's, point out that the recent rash of shootings seems a bit too "arranged" to pass off as coincidence lately. While talking to them and making sure not to point out the "fact"of it myself ckell, so I'm not sure so sure about the whole "only a looney would think this could be a conspiracy" mindset being quite as prevalent, not since the election at least. Just look at all the idiots that have no training (when a standard hunter/firearm safety course would have been plenty to avoid their screw ups) but felt the need to get a gun, that have been having all the accidental discharges at gun shows lately, those were caused, at least indirectly by anti's. Thats why those folks rushed out to get themselves armed, fear that it was now or never. IMO.

I just don't want to rule out the idea of a setup. This administration is so crooked that it sickens me. I lean more towards the idea the media is simply reporting on it more, but I can't help but keep it in the back of my mind that some form of setup in some cases might have occurred due to the push for gun control and our corrupt and tyrannical administration.

I actually believe in the set up clause.Its really weird about the misinformation that is going out. Yesterday, as houston , was being attacked , the info. was really strange.The "media" could not get the facts straight.Since I only live 75 miles from the target area, I figugure to to get better info. But alas to no avail.They (media)Keep changing their minds on the aspects of what happened.It turns out , it was a black on black, act of violence, that some poor person was also hit.And might I also add it was done only with a hand gun.It was nothing more than an argument, thus most people on campus were not in danger. Yet if they would not consider all campuses to be gun free zones and let the willing take care of the problems, then we should never have any more incidents..."yeah I know I misspelled it". And just as a side note....nobody was killed! (knock on wood)

mwalton, is it also true that none of the people involved in that incident were students at the college?