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Spanking Makes Aggressive, Depressed Kids?
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holly
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| 13 Jan 2013 10:23 AM |
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Just another one of those liberals way of thinking .Boy it sure did not hurt me or my brothers .There is a difference between beating and a god swat on the but . |
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yote
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| 13 Jan 2013 12:39 PM |
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not spanking makes spoiled rotten little frackers who are more likely to comit mass murders  |
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ckell
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| 13 Jan 2013 12:56 PM |
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Spanking is like anything else, the wrong amount at the wrong time can cause wrose problems, than what it is meant to corect. But even at that why are so many of the children who continualy play video games, no chorses, do not understand work, or punishment doing such things as we see, at sandy hook, CO.
Guns have been around for a very long time, how many remember when almost every pickup in the school parking lot had a gun rack with a least one gun in it. We didn't have the shootings we have now. Sure the fact that everyone had a gun near may have had a little to do with it, but there is something more, than the presents of guns, that stopped this sort of thing. Guns where not a/the problem nor realy somthing that kept such things from happening back then. Kids and guns have always been around. Guns still do the same thing they always have, fire a bullet, but only when somone pulls the trigger. What has changed in those who pull, that trigger. |
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ternera1
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| 13 Jan 2013 01:13 PM |
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Holly: we were 7 in my fam. 4 boys/3girls. We all grew up with our azzes burning when in trouble, but none of us made it close to the doors of a police department and we all had jobs and our own families. Can you imagine all those spoiled brats 20yrs from now? The scary part is they will be running the country(if there is any left to run). |
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ckell
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| 13 Jan 2013 01:22 PM |
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Posted By ternera1 on 13 Jan 2013 02:13 PM
Holly: we were 7 in my fam. 4 boys/3girls. We all grew up with our azzes burning when in trouble, but none of us made it close to the doors of a police department and we all had jobs and our own families. Can you imagine all those spoiled brats 20yrs from now? The scary part is they will be running the country(if there is any left to run).
Terneral most of us feared what our dad would do to us more than the police, back then. Spanking is like anything else, the wrong amount at the wrong time can cause worse problems, than what it is meant to corect. But even at that why are so many of the children who continualy play video games, no chorses, do not understand work, or punishment, most show little respect to anyone, doing such things as we see, at sandy hook, CO.
Guns have been around for a very long time, how many remember when almost every pickup in the school parking lot had a gun rack with a least one gun in it. We didn't have the shootings we have now. Sure the fact that everyone had a gun near may have had a little to do with it, but there is something more, than the presents of guns, that stopped this sort of thing. Guns where not a/the problem nor realy somthing that kept such things from happening back then. Kids and guns have always been around. Guns still do the same thing they always have, fire a bullet, but only when somone pulls the trigger. What has changed in those who pull, that trigger.
What is the differance in people and children now and back then. Sure there were abused children, and that abuse caused problems later in life for those children. There is adifferance between punhishment and abuse, the Government makes almost any punhishment an abuse now. |
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ternera1
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| 13 Jan 2013 01:34 PM |
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Yes, they have changed, indeed. For the worse as can be seen on all those recent developments. Like you said: "Guns still do the same thing they always have, fire a bullet, but only when somone pulls the trigger."
Could it be that the modern guns are so sofisticated that have a mind of their own? Some kind of radiation that is oozing out of the stock and causing people to go around killing inocent folks. Next we'll find some idiot shooting up a nursing home. |
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yote
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| 13 Jan 2013 01:36 PM |
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what has changed in a nutshell is personal responsibility for ones actions and respect for life.and untill people accept it is the moral decadence in our society and not the guns that are the problem things will continue to get worse with every generation.we have TURNED our backs on GOD and let money become our god. when people ask how GOD can let children die remember , we turned away from HIM not the other way around.HE is just leting us reap what we have sowed.actions or inactions have consequences! spare the rod spoil the child! only one child has ever been born who didn't need a good spanking now and then. |
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boomer1
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| 13 Jan 2013 01:47 PM |
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This article is full of sh.t. Not for sure what everyones age is. Remember when corporal punishment was allowed in school? Sure I got a few swats in school and more from my dad when I got home for what I did at school. Just look at the generation of kids that came out of school when corporal punishment was allowed. Again, without corporal punishment, the children have no accountability. Instead they get a day out of school, or detention for what they did. In my opinion, there are too many variables that are not covered in the article/trial. |
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mwilkey1
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| 13 Jan 2013 02:12 PM |
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Spanking, we ought to string the young kids up ,those that perpetrate these horrible crimes. Public executions of these animals. It's not cool. |
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ckell
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| 13 Jan 2013 02:19 PM |
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I am not a bible thumper, and I mean neither insult nor disrespect by saying that. There is something missing in our society, Christians will say GOD. If you need the fear of an after life in he77 to keep you from doing wrong ok, but some do not, and do not want to hear it. But many will say/agree a lack of respect, for others and life and morals if you will are a cause. How do we have a discussion about that without the pushing of, and the subsequent rejection of religious preaching? How do both sides control their emotions that cause the name calling insults that result in no meaningful outcome?
RT and I are both agnostic, and there are those who are very religious, God fearing people in here. Are there any of you who believe RT and I are evil, monsters, with no morals or the understanding of moral values and are heck bent on destroying your souls.
Do I have to sing the praise’s of God? Or can I just say the 10 commandments are very good moral guild lines, and we all would be much better off if we tried harder to follow them, and leave it at that. Or must we argue they are Gods laws and not mere guild lines, there by skipping the whole point and never getting anywhere, near finding the problem or solution.
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yote
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| 13 Jan 2013 02:35 PM |
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no I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU TO BE EVIL. ALL MEN SIN EVEN(maybe even especially )"christians" and I believe you to be a man with morals.I don't hate the man I hate the sin. for the sake of this discusion I am not trying to "convert" you but I DON'T BELIEVE YOU CAN REALLY get to the root of the problem without bringing GOD into it.I AGREE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS are the best guidlines we have for believers and none believers to live by but I also realize all of us will be unable to keep them |
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ckell
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| 13 Jan 2013 03:02 PM |
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Yote you being up a good point, do morals stim from religion (God) or did they come about on their own. And/or religion is a way of enforceing those morals. Does it matter where they come from, or how they came about. But is there a lack of them now? Do we have to have a belief in an afterlife in which we will be punished, for our sins, to have or reach morals.?
Edit: can we teach morals without the belief in an after life, and the fear of damnation? |
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yote
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| 13 Jan 2013 03:25 PM |
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as would be obvious I believe in an afterlife, a SAVIOR and GOD. that said,I do not think a man has no morals just because he does not believe but there is definitly a lack of morals in todays society! morals are not being taught in many(NOT ALL) homes, churches or schools.our government is run by crooks, liars and thieves.It is no longer PC to teach children the ten commandments and now we are not even allowed to dicipline a child to try and teach him right from wrong.there was a time when a childs hero was his parents or maybe superman, nowadays thier hero is more likely to be obama or charlie sheenor tupaq  !is it any wonder the number of children making bad choices is increasing? |
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ckell
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| 13 Jan 2013 05:06 PM |
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Posted By yote on 13 Jan 2013 04:25 PM
as would be obvious I believe in an afterlife, a SAVIOR and GOD. that said,I do not think a man has no morals just because he does not believe but there is definitly a lack of morals in todays society! morals are not being taught in many(NOT ALL) homes, churches or schools.our government is run by crooks, liars and thieves.It is no longer PC to teach children the ten commandments and now we are not even allowed to dicipline a child to try and teach him right from wrong.there was a time when a childs hero was his parents or maybe superman, nowadays thier hero is more likely to be obama or charlie sheenor tupaq!is it any wonder the number of children making bad choices is increasing? Good points. I believe the 10 commandments should be tought. And they can be taught without the religous connotations, many do not want. We believe it is wrong to take a life, except in the case of protecting one. All others fall in line behide that. False God, money/greed has caused the death of many a person. Stealing is wrong because, it could cause Killing, amoung other things, distrust, hate. Lieing/false wittness the same as stealing. Adultery the same as stealing and lieing. There are good reasons to teach the 10 commandment, without the teaching of pure religion,. Not following them can cause feelings that can lead to killing. Abortion is a differant arguement, but respect and honor for life, those walking around now, and the lack of morals can cause the loss of life. |
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rthomas4
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| 14 Jan 2013 10:12 AM |
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Hell, I know every damn time I had my azz blistered I was depressed and angry; but I never went out and committed any criminal actions as a result!!!!!! I've often thought the old expression of just cutting a kid's azz every day for the hell of it, might actually have some merit. That way there is punishment meted out for every bad action that was gotten away with, or even considered!!!!!!!!!! |
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holly
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| 14 Jan 2013 10:42 AM |
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Like has been said in this thread is that the kids are not tought the morals and respect that we were tought .To many parents do not want to take care of their kids .They just give them some money and send them down the road .They are not tought right from wrong .When they get in trouble the parents will bail them out .I know when we were kids if we did something stupid we payed for it ,not my parents .If you broke something that belonged to others you found a way to pay for it ,even if it meant working for that person until its paid for .Those type of things are not tought today .The kids get a free ride . |
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flatbkman
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| 14 Jan 2013 10:56 AM |
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Seems like we all were raised that when we deserved it, we got our butts whooped and it doesn't seem to have affected any of us in a negative way. It also seems that it was never a problem until they started doing "feel good" studies on the issue. |
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ahoffman2
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| 14 Jan 2013 12:36 PM |
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I'm sure that some of you older folks remember the Walter Mondell, Child care bill, that was on our ballots in '72. This bill was voted down by a vote of 92%! However, our administration decided that the people were wrong, and that bill was adopted as a guide line for Human Services. It has been inacted into law, inspite of the fact that 92% of us folks voted against it!
It is obvious, from these mental retards findings, that all of use that were raised, prior to this bill, are depressed, aggresive nut cases! Of course, I'll bet a dollar to a old tore up dog poo, that those experts were raised up after '72! |
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Lunkerdog
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| 14 Jan 2013 12:48 PM |
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My mom wasn't a strong proponent of corporal punishment, in fact as a kid I could barely remember the last butt whoopin I got. That said, I did remember it, so I knew the threat was there. Mom always found ways to punish us that were very effective without getting physical. As I got older she made it clear that if I ever ended up in jail that's where I was going too stay because there was no way she was going to bail me out, mom was a woman of her word, and I knew she meant it.
Not to paint my mom as a bleeding heart that didn't believe in corporal punishment, because nothing would be farther from the truth. She was a very intelligent woman, and understood the effects of psychology. Many times all it took was the snap of her head, and the look on her face and you knew you had just hit the line, she was able to convey that crossing that line would not produce good results. She was also very good at understanding what privilege to take away and/or what tasks/jobs to impose that would produce results.`
I was raised by a single mom, but also had the village thing going on. My Maternal Grandparents lived only a block away, and my aunts and uncles were good hard working people. Mom doled out the punishments, but the rest of the adults in my life wouldn't hesitate to add to the psychological aspect of the punishment. Nothing mean, more in the logical sense. One of the biggest questions I hated to hear was, "why would you do something like that? I hated it because I learned early on that if I tried to defend myself I was going to get logically shredded. IMHO, at least for me, it was a pretty good follow up to my mom's punishment.
We also had corporal punishment in the schools when I was a kid. In the early 70's when the push was on for the U.S. to adapt the metric system our math teacher had meter sticks in the classroom. The meter sticks were longer and thicker than the average yard stick. It only took one whack in front of the class for me and a friend to figure out that goofing off in class was a bad idea. Me and another kid were also made to run up and down the gym steps 20 times one day after we had gotten into a fight during recess.
I believe in corporal punishment, but don't necessarily believe that it's a go to punishment. I believe that kids need to be aware that the possibility exists, and believe that it should be used when necessary or it's nothing more than an empty threat. But as it has been pointed out, it's not always the best action.
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boomer1
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| 14 Jan 2013 05:08 PM |
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Sounds like you learned morals without the corporal punishment. Once again that is what is lacking in the majority of the kids today. You don't have to be religous to learn morals. I was brought up in a christian home where we at church every Sunday. My wife and I haven't been to a church service with our kids in over 10 years and my kids have a hell of lot of morals compared to some of my kids friends. We quit going to church after my wife and I and two other couples went to the school board,{1}*****ing about the very problem that we are seeing in the kids today. We were made, by the school board, out to be the problem. Needless to say the majority of the school board members go to the same church that we go to. We were looked down upon and treated alot different after our meeting with the school board. Bunch of hypocrite a-holes. A person can live a quote christian life without going to church every Sunday. |
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ckell
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| 14 Jan 2013 06:21 PM |
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Maybe not where many of you grew up and went to to school, but where I went to school guns in a gun rack in a pickup in the school parking lot were common. Yet with all those guns there were no mass shootings. Mag cap has changed, and simi-auto was not that common, but for the most part guns have not change. They still shoot one bullet with each trigger pull, and somone must pull that trigger.
If guns have not changed, the poeple who pull the trigger must have. Why have they changed what caused the change. Some of us had Parents who spanked us more than others. Still those who were spanked did not committ mass murder, nor those who were not.
But all of us recieved some sort of punhishment for not following the rules or doing as we were told. We were taught there is a right and wrong, good and bad. Some call those things morals and think nothing more about it. But there are two sides on the understanding of morals. One side says they come from the belief in God. The other side say it has nothing to do with God, you can have morals without the belief in God. And instead of concentrateing on the lost of morals as a problem. They concentrate on Religion and the teaching of or about God (Religion) as the problem. The teaching about God is a personel thing, and best taught at home and church. But morals and discipline are a differant story. That is what they should be talking about, not gun control. And stop seeing and making talk about morals as/or a religious thing. An as long as the punishment however it is done and is not an abussive thing let people do it as theysee fit. |
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yote
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| 14 Jan 2013 06:26 PM |
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boomer1 I would go a step further and state that iot is possible to become a BETTER christian BECAUSE you refuse to go to a certain church.It's not where you go it's what you believe |
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boomer1
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| 14 Jan 2013 07:02 PM |
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yote! 100% true. |
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rthomas4
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| 15 Jan 2013 09:37 AM |
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My deceased wife's twin sister (the beitch) used to yell and threaten her little porch monkey brat, but never went through with the threats. It only took one day with me for him to understand what an azz whoopin was, and that I didn't threaten, I made promises and kept 'em. Unfortunately after my wife died, and I no longer had any influence in his upbringing, he did become a juvenile delinquent. I could have straightened him out if he'd been around me. With Travis, all I've ever had to do since he was about 3 or 4, was just give him "the look". Everyone who meets him comments on what a well mannered and well behaved kid he is. Like I said, I don't believe in yelling and threatening, just make a promise and stick with it and the kids will understand what it means to misbehave and the results of their actions. |
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yote
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| 15 Jan 2013 07:13 PM |
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growing up if we did something wrong we'd get a arse whoopin.we were also taught to respect our elders and to answer with a ,"yes sir ,no sir yes maam or a no maam." we were expected to say please and thank you and if we didn't we got a slap to the back of the head.we were taught not to disrespect others and in turn to expect same from others.basically just MANNERS.we were expected to do the yard work and chores around the house,in turn we got a weekly allowance, the main reason for this was to teach us the falue of money. you don't see a lot of that kind of child raising anymore.children today think money grows on trees and they should be given everything thier heart desires |
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ahoffman2
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| 15 Jan 2013 09:15 PM |
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Kinda sounds to me like you city kids had it kinda easy! |
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yote
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| 16 Jan 2013 06:48 AM |
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ahoff,lol. I learned a long time ago that you can throw a rock in any direction and hit some arsehoa who will tell you how much harder they had(have) it then you do.no disrespect meant ,I 'm sure you when you went to school(IF YOU HAD THAT OPPURTUNITY) YOU HAD to walk uphill ,both ways, through a blizzard,in your bare feet. |
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rthomas4
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| 16 Jan 2013 06:59 AM |
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What's an allowance? When I was a kid, I was allowed to live another day for doing the chores I was expected to do!!!!!! Is that what you were describing, Charlie?????? |
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holly
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| 16 Jan 2013 11:03 AM |
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We had to do the chores and no money .My parents were raising 7 kids .Could not afford that .And yes we had to walk 2 miles to school .No snow just rain .The kids today have to have a buss to go the same distance . |
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rthomas4
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| 16 Jan 2013 11:07 AM |
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I didn't have to walk to school, but did have to walk to the bus stop. Today, the bus will stop and then travel less than 5o yards to the damn school!!!!!! |
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ckell
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| 16 Jan 2013 11:37 AM |
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By todays stanards we were all lucky live through our childhood. Most of us for the most part look back now on our childhood with fond rememories, and are thankful for the disipline our parents gave us. But how many actually felt that way then, sure we loved and repected out parents, but we may not have always liked them. |
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ahoffman2
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| 16 Jan 2013 03:08 PM |
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No yote, we had shoes, high topped work boots! When we got thru with mornin' chores, we had to wash all the cow, pig, chicken crap off'um before we wore'um to school. We only had to walk about 3/8 mi. to catch the school bus, however, it was not uncommen, to get screwed up on chores, miss the bus and then have to run the 3 1/2 mi. to school, and hope ya weren't late!
As rt asked--What allowance? We were workin' as soon as we could crawl! Ma would set us down in between rows of corn, or other veggys, and ya pulled weeds around the corn or veggys. As soon as ya could walk, they stuck a big ol' "ethnic" hoe or pitch fork in your hands, and ya was eather weedin' them corn patches or garden, or pitchin' hay. All in all, it was a good life, every kid should have to grow up that way! Of course I didn't think so at the time! |
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ahoffman2
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| 16 Jan 2013 03:12 PM |
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And yes, I did get my hinney beat regularly, both by parents and teachers! The worst beatin' I ever got, was given to me by my Mom, useing a 7 ft. Bull Snake.
Was just as funny then, altho it hurt like heck, as it is today----but---thats another story!
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ckell
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| 16 Jan 2013 06:34 PM |
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Ahoffman you didn't throw it on her did ya.
most of us grew up with some kind of chores to do, if we had to much energy our parents had somthing for us is to do, if we were bored our parents had somthing for us to do. They didn't give us pill to calm us down, they could use that energy for something constructive. Except on the worse day we did not stay in the house, get to noisy in the house outside you went. If what you did was bad enough the neighber could beat you butt, then your mom and dad would finish it. If you broke somthing you worked it off, one way or another. You said yes mam/sir and No mam/ sir, thank you best be said for any thing. That is missing now. Everybody knew the Cops and their kids, they were realy the good guys, they could do the paper work or let your parents beat your butt, most let the parents handle it, and they did handle it. You could fist fight without every LE around getting involved, many a thing got settled that way, no lenghty costly court anything. In the end the two of you had a much better repect for each other, many a friendship started that way.
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yote
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| 16 Jan 2013 07:49 PM |
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ahoff , I'm sorry you didn't get an allowance and begrudge me because I did.my parents were able to afford it and for that I am gratefull. however I do think it is a great way to teach a child to be responsible with money.we were expected to use that money for such things as buying lunch at school they let us spend it anyway we chose but if we blew it on candy or toys or soda(wich I often did)  we didn't get to eat lunch. I also worked on a farm As a kid only differance is my parents didn't own one so I didn't start till I was ten. got payed a buck an hour when I started.worked there every summer till I graduated high school.had to walk a couple miles to work and left before the sun came up and got home most nights after dark.when I was old enough to drive I worked after school(didn't do the morning thing because my parents felt school was more important, again for this I am gratefull ). point is I did all the same chit. moved pipe, picked rock(and there was a lot of rock in those fields),bucked hay, fixed fence, milked cows ,slopped pigs. when I was 12 I was running a swather ,next year baling hay. we had to dehorn and casterate the cattle .now and then we'd slaughter one and butcher it. by the time I was 14. I was buying all my own clothes and providing most of the meat my family ate . and I wouldn't trade one minute of it. anyhow,all I'M saying is just because I didn't have the EXACT SAME upbringing as you, don't tell me how easy I had it. |
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ahoffman2
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| 17 Jan 2013 12:36 AM |
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Heck yote, don't be sorry!! I didn't know that I was suppose to get one! Fact is, in our small community, I don't know or heard of any of the kids gettin' one. But then again, durein' them war years, not many had money that they could afford to give thier kids.
how'd'ya guess ckell? I found that big ol' bull snake, while I was suppose to be weedin' corn. I stuck'im in the bag that I was suppose to put corn into, when I got thru weedin', and ran up to the house to show Mom. Unfortinantly for the both of us, well no, countin' that snake, the 3 of us, when I got up to the house, Mom was asleep on the ol' army cot, that we used for a couch. I snuck up on her and dumped that snake on her belly. DURN, she sure was quick! I ran like the dickens, but she was right behind me, whoopin' the dickens outa me with that poor snake!
Naaa, if spankin' was gonna make us kids aggresive and depressed, I'd a been the poster child!
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rthomas4
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| 17 Jan 2013 09:24 AM |
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Luckily we were row crop farmers, and the only time we raised any livestock was for the purpose of butchering. Both of my parents had full time jobs outside of the home, so I had house chores to do, on top of the field chores. I was lucky in that I was running a tractor at 10, but I still had to walk the rows and pull weeds out of the soybeans and corn. I was unlucky in the fact that the tractor I had to operate was an old John Deere model 60 with a hand clutch. I didn't get to run the Ford tractor 'til I was 12. We did plant peas for people to come and pick and pay or I'd pick and they'd pay more. That was income for my grandmother and me, along with the peanuts I pulled and picked off and sold. That's how I earned the money I used to get my first semi-automatic shotgun, and since I didn't have quite enough my dad kicked in the difference and I got it for Christmas when I was 12. When I graduated from high school and left home for college I swore I'd never grub in the dirt or do any type of farming or planting ever again. Funny, 'cause now I love working my food plots every year, and really enjoy getting on the Massey-Ferguson and keeping the fire lines cut and fence rows mowed. |
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Lunkerdog
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| 17 Jan 2013 01:37 PM |
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RT4, we used to own a 1949A with a hand clutch, You could get in trouble in a hurry with those old rigs if you weren't paying attention. I used to skid trees for a few years before we sold our timber. We sold it to a John Deere collector 4 or 5 years ago.
I was raised in the city, but was lucky that my Grandfather was a member of a hunting camp that had a 100 acre wild rice lake on the property. As a kid I was given a .22, and a 20 gauge on consecutive Christmas's. Those were the only guns that were given to me. When I was 14 I bought my first deer rifle with the money I earned picking wild rice. The next year I upgraded to a 12 gauge with my rice money.
In town Grandpa's property was two corner lots. His home was on one, he planted a garden on the other. By no means were we farmers, but I did get plenty of time in the garden as a kid.
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