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Gov Walker
Last Post 08 Jun 2012 10:25 PM by g-faber. 62 Replies.
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hatfield hunter
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| 27 Jan 2012 07:48 AM |
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Go Governor walker, Dems had 8 years to do something to fix $ problems, They just created more $ problems |
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..l..
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| 27 Jan 2012 10:37 AM |
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almost 2,000,000 wisconites disagree with you |
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niemz
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| 27 Jan 2012 01:44 PM |
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How many names on that petition are dead or fictional people? |
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..l..
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| 27 Jan 2012 02:03 PM |
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probably half of what it would be if roles were reversed |
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hatfield hunter
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| 27 Jan 2012 02:33 PM |
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Gee I wonder why tom Barrett and the Milwaukee School Boards are looking at implementing ACT 10 ??? You know Tom Barrett don,t you I ? Yea Janesville school board still crying in their beer, They had the bright idea to sign Teacher contracts for 3 years just before act 10 < Now they are begging Teachers union to reopen contract talks because they are going totally broke and laying off a lot of teachers. Yea guess what they said! Why don,t you look into how happy many other shool districts are now ? Seems almost weekly in Wisconsin news. Oh yea, Did youy hear about Illinois ? they were smart, Make nice with the Teachers unions and just raise taxes, Thats working out great, They are bankrupt and trying now to pass there own ACT 10------ The Silent Majority is waking up, Do ya feel it ? We will see down the road ! Or Oh yea we could go back to laying off Teachers, taking away all extra curricular classes like band and athletics. Just to keep the most senior Teachers happy. Oh yea, The new and Younger Teachers will be able to scream and yell at everyone at the capital because they have nothing else to do ! And we could keep raising specialty taxes, raise fees, and licens  es like Dem Gov Doyle did and oh yes still leave us 3.6 billion in debt, Thats what you want to go back to ???? |
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..l..
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| 27 Jan 2012 03:05 PM |
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i bet you get the limbaugh letter this argument will go nowhere, the people of wisconsin have spoken they want a recall,now you repubs can cry just like the dems did,i sure like making my decisions based on my beliefs and feelings and not by what my party dictates.imo obama and walker have alot in common, they both think they are above the law and both are arrogent peices of sheit ,i would like to wipe the smug look off of either of their faces |
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Badger 55
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| 27 Jan 2012 04:22 PM |
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Great sign floating around Wisc stating "I'd rather have 1 Walker than 14 runners" Classic  Go Scottie |
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fbacon
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| 27 Jan 2012 08:55 PM |
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Go Walker Go! I voted for him the first time and I WILL vote for him again if the recall petitions prove to have enough legit names to force the recall. Balance the budget with out raising taxes whats not to love? So many people wine that politicians get into office then don't do what they say were going to but then when we get one that dose the liberals and crybaby unions want to recall the guy. Here is what I know the last pole taken shows that 51% of wisconsin approves of the job Scott Walker is doing 46% do not and the rest are unsure or are to stupid to see what a great job he is doing. Most non union people I talk to will all vote for Walker again if it comes down to a recall election and I think there are far more NON UNION workers than there are union. In fact I heard on the raidio that union membership was down 11% last year! What does that tell you? I think the next thing walker and the republicans should do is pass a right to work law so a person can work anywhere with out having to join a union or be able to oppt out of one if they were forced into one when they started their job. Where did you see The Sign Badger 55? I want one for my yard and my truck too! |
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..l..
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| 28 Jan 2012 05:50 AM |
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Posted By Badger 55 on 27 Jan 2012 05:22 PM Great sign floating around Wisc stating "I'd rather have 1 Walker than 14 runners" Classic Go Scott i if walker would have met with the runners they could of hammered something out, both sides would have been satisfied and we wouldnt be where we are now.step back, look at the big picture, think on your own, not how your party wants you too. |
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Badger 55
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| 28 Jan 2012 07:02 AM |
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What do you suggest....a video conference? Never in history has a party ever done something like that to avoid an issue. Only the Dems would think of doing that. Heck it was such a good thing to do, the Dems in Indiana pulled the same stunt. Illinois is a cesspool of corruption and thats where your beloved liberal Dems chose to vacation LOL.... The last 3 Illinois Governors are in prison... what a great example of the Democratic party.
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..l..
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| 28 Jan 2012 07:21 AM |
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the way it is looking walker will be following in their footsteps, i dont care which party it is, their are very few if any that are trustworthy, |
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fbacon
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| 28 Jan 2012 08:16 AM |
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The Dummycrats could have met with Walker easier then the Govener of Wisconsin having to leave the state to meet with them. In my oppinion they sure as hell should not have gotten payed while they were on the run! If I don't show up to work I don't get payed if I go more than 3 days as a no call no show I lose my job why should people that work for me/us be any different? My wife was just on face book and one of her friends posted that now the Wisconsin school board is talking about having a 4 day work week so the teachers can better prepair them selves. As if they don't already have enough time off!!!!! If this comes to pass I hope they make them teach all year to make up for a childs lost time in his/her education. Maybe we should all home school or childeren and put ALL the teacher out of work??????? Atleast we woulden't have to listen to them cry about how big the class sizes are any more  |
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rockrusher37
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| 29 Jan 2012 07:09 PM |
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I wanna know how to run a business for the amount of years that WI has been a state without making a income! CUZ if they can do it i should be able to. LMAO. I pay taxes and hope all of you do and we need to control this issue as all the states do and get this country on the right track and get all of us in the black. I think GOV Walker is doing the right thing for all of us in WI. |
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hatfield hunter
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| 30 Jan 2012 08:04 AM |
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2 things --I-- First i do not get to listen to Limbaugh, I have to wrk for a living, Second----Guess who blew the whistle on his own friends that were taking money illegally ????????? Oh Yes, That was GOV WALKER !!!!!!!!! Oh thats right, Libs do not care about facts------ |
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..l..
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| 30 Jan 2012 02:54 PM |
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hatfield hunter
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| 31 Jan 2012 07:29 AM |
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Yea thanks I As I said, Gov Walker reported this action to govt officials and took action when he found out !!!! What more would you ask for ? |
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LBshooter
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| 31 Jan 2012 10:19 PM |
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I wish we had a gov walker here in Illinois instead of the idiot we have. If wisconsin residents vote walker out they should get the stupidity award for 2012. When a madison bus can make 140,000 a year and retire in 20 yrs with 80% fpr a pension something is very wrong. |
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..l..
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| 01 Feb 2012 04:54 AM |
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Posted By LBshooter on 31 Jan 2012 11:19 PM I wish we had a gov walker here in Illinois instead of the idiot we have. If wisconsin residents vote walker out they should get the stupidity award for 2012. When a madison bus can make 140,000 a year and retire in 20 yrs with 80% fpr a pension something is very wrong.
could you show me proof of this |
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LBshooter
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| 01 Feb 2012 09:21 PM |
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...l... that is what was being reported by news outlets, madison bus driver with overtime makes that, and can retire in 20 years, research it. Kind of makes you made you didn't know about earlier? I would have never go to school if i knew it lol. It makes sense when unions neg. with politicians. Look back at the coverage from last year I 'm sure you will find it. |
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niemz
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| 01 Feb 2012 09:54 PM |
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Nobody ever accused liberals of being smart! |
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..l..
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| 02 Feb 2012 06:21 AM |
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i know the news media would never stretch the the truth.believe none of what you read ,half of what you see,and niemz,my views are far from being liberal |
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LBshooter
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| 02 Feb 2012 09:06 AM |
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...l.. i agree with your statement, but it seels you are against walker and what he has done. From what I've gathered he has turn the budget around and the unions are pissed, makes no sense . If the people of WI want to go back into the red and have their taxes raised then by all means vote walker out. I have a feelin that won't happen, the union needed to be reined in some. The unions have abused their power for to long and it is going to bite them if they are not careful. If Wi fails to recall walker then you will see a land slide of govs doing the same. I personally hope and believe that walker will survive.; |
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rockrusher37
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| 02 Feb 2012 07:56 PM |
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that is so old news, if you have not heard that u are not paying attetion to the right news. yes that is a true fact that buss driver did make that and one of the reasons we need a GOOD gov like walker no bs and stand up for everyone. I have a good freind and a prision gaurd and we sit and drink beer and talk about it. but we both go honme pissed at each other but still good hunting buddys. have that. libbs |
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LBshooter
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| 02 Feb 2012 08:46 PM |
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Right on rock, glad to hear someonelse knows whats going on up there. So you think walker will survive recall? I talked with congressman ryan and he seems to think that walker will, hope so. By the way you know about the RIB archery club in racine? |
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..l..
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| 07 Feb 2012 05:42 AM |
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http://www.channel3000.com/politics...etail.html im sure mr walker had no knowledge of wrong doing, open your eyes people this man leaves a trail of corruption , and before you jump my ass too bad, jim doyle was also a useless pos ,eliminate all big money influence and do whats best for all legal citizens of wisconsin,somewhere their is a happy medium |
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LBshooter
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| 07 Feb 2012 06:47 AM |
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..I.. are you saying walker is not doing right by legal WI. residents? |
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..l..
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| 07 Feb 2012 08:00 AM |
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im saying we clean out the illegals so those who are working in wisconsin are paying taxes, every little bit will add up, look at all these fly by night drywall companies, some of these workers are fourteen dont speak a lick of english and have four ids .go to the walmart distribution center in beaver dam and yell, immigration,watch the building empty,im sure everybody knows somebody who is phucking the system, as long as big business influences government the taxpayer suffers,why should the public union employees be the whippin boy for everybody, there is a lot of wasted money elsewhere in the system.ask your self if you could absorb a 25% pay cut in your household income, and just to be clear,neither party is trustworthy |
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LBshooter
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| 07 Feb 2012 05:56 PM |
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Hey ..l.. I agree with you on the immigration issue. Don't forget Il. has all the illegals flocking here, It's time to crack down. But the public unions need to be cut too. Vote rep. this next election if you want illegal immigration dealt with. |
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| 08 Feb 2012 08:28 AM |
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and some of those same illegals head north to double dip on any benefits they can get along with all the brood mares and other lazy phucks, i dont think voting rep. is going to fix immigration , but i can tell you that there is a 99% percent chance that i wont vote for the big eared dork in washington right now either, as for the public union, i am a private union construction worker my self and have worked along side both public union and nonunion .both public and private unions need to restructure themselves to provide the best of the best and not protect the phuckoffs that like to hide behind their union card. nonunion labor just scares the shiiit out of me, you have one person who is somewhat trained directing many untrained workers who are clueless , you may get the job done cheaper at first, but the quality is not there and many problems will arise that normaly dont when done by union mechanicals. a few years ago a floor collapsed on a UW building while being poured because a nonunion company had lack of knowledge on how to support it , you will find most of the good nonunion guys join the union or just form a small shop, but big buildings need to be done by union labor or you will pay more in the long run. i feel in the public union their could be a compromise where all would be satisfied. alot of the taxpayers wasted money comes from lack of decision making by the higher ups who are not union( im talking maintenance and construction),i want to know that the future generation is being taught by qualified teachers, you get what you pay for and i know alot of teachers that will be looking to change careers this summer because on the average most of them lost 600 a month in pay, all you know as well as i do the rising cost of health care is going to do most of us in |
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Dewnmoutain
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| 08 Feb 2012 12:31 PM |
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honestly, i dont have a grief against unions. As an idea, they are a decent one. But, when big money gets involved, anyone would rather get the money than protect their fellow union brother. Look at the MPS system. Before act 10, MPS signed a contract extension of 2 years, with the understanding from the unions that should the act 10 be passed, and the MPS could save money, MPS and the union would meet again and renegotiate the contract. Fast forward a month later, and I am hearing about how MPS is being forced to lay off 200 teachers because the unions refused to renegotiate the contract, which was only asking for a 5% contribution to pension, and 8% payment to healthcare. The union said no. They didnt want to help their fellow 200 union brothers because "we have to pay for health care, AND the pension?? outrageous!". If they had met and agreed, 200 teachers would be employeed right now in the MPS system...
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Longbowhunter
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| 01 May 2012 07:36 AM |
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F'in UNIONS CAN KISS MY BIG WHITE A** GO WALKER GO !!!!!!!!!!! first time in 10 years hunting, fishing and camping fees were not raised !!!!!!! to buy votes form unions
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niemz
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| 02 May 2012 01:17 PM |
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I support Walker, unions have become more powerful than the mafia, and about as corrupt too. |
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rockrusher37
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| 03 May 2012 05:59 PM |
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SORRY GUYS AND ...i... you better grab your ankles cuz do the math Walkers geetn back in and no more sick days for you to call in to go hunting. LMAO. |
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| 12 May 2012 08:17 AM |
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..l..
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| 12 May 2012 08:21 AM |
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Badger 55
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| 12 May 2012 01:00 PM |
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Who cares, it's not about the unions anymore, it's jobs now. The union whining may have started this, but now that is in the rear view mirror. Faulk got whipped playing the union line and I really don't think it's important to the masses anymore. No matter who gets in, the public unions are still screwed. WEAC will have to get back to reality.
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..l..
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| 13 May 2012 07:54 AM |
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leading the nation in job loss is enough for me. its easy to tell when walker is lying... his lips are moving |
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Badger 55
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| 13 May 2012 05:34 PM |
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What they forgot to mention was those were from schools that hurried and signed union contract extensions. aka, layoffs...fools
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g-faber
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| 24 May 2012 07:59 PM |
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EXCLUSIVE: Analysis finds Wisconsin’s Act 10 saving taxpayers big
May 22nd, 2012
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By M.D. Kittle Wisconsin Reporter
MADISON — While a lightning rod for controversy and recall, Wisconsin’s Act 10 has paid significant dividends to taxpayers, according to a new analysis by the Beacon Hill Institute for Public Policy Research, at Suffolk University in Boston.
Act 10, which curbed collective bargaining for most unionized public employees, in the whole has saved taxpayers more than $1 billion, according to The Economic Impacts of the Wisconsin Budget Repair Act. The study is slated for release this week by Beacon Hill Institute, a prominent free market think tank.
What the analysis found is that without the law, which in part requires covered public employees to contribute more to their benefits and holds wage increases to the rate of inflation, Badger State governments would have been forced to raise taxes or make deep job cuts to meet budget expenses.
As it was, Gov. Scott Walker and the Republican-controlled Legislature pushed through reforms and reductions that filled a $3.6 billion budget shortfall, although organized labor asserts Republicans balanced the budget on the backs of public employees.
The measure drew the ire of organized labor and the Democratic Party, with tens of thousands of protesters packing the Capitol. Ultimately, it was the Walker-led reforms that launched a recall campaign in which the governor in two weeks must defend his term at the polls, facing Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett in a historic gubernatorial recall election.
The Beacon Institute analysis argues the law may have been controversial, even divisive, but there’s no disputing its benefit to taxpayers.
“The cost-saving measures prevented painful tax increases that would have damaged the state’s private economy resulting in slower job and income growth,” said Paul Bachman, BHI director of research. “Moreover, the provisions avoided further painful layoffs of school teachers and other public employees.”
There have been numerous media reports of school districts and municipalities that have balanced their budgets or hired more educators by employing the so-called tools of Act 10.
Municipalities will realize annual cost savings of between $775 million and $1.2 billion, according to the analysis.
Lower taxes ‘at what cost?’
BHI also found that, by not raising taxes to cover the $3.6 billion budget gap, the state prevented the loss of 11,500 to 14,000 private sector jobs “by keeping more money in the hands of households and businesses.”
More so, the cost savings, according to the institute, helped spare as many as 6,500 public sector jobs that faced the budget ax in the absence of the Budget Repair bill.
The public-sector shed 17,900 jobs between March 2011 and March 2012, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
Bachman said the public-sector cuts could have been a lot more severe without reforms to state collective-bargaining laws.
Keeping taxes in check boosted real disposable income in Wisconsin by as much as $1.03 billion, overall. The increase, according to the report, takes into account lower disposable income levels of the about 445,000 public-sector workers in the state, Bachman said.
That’s a point not lost on John Matthews, executive director of Madison Teachers Inc., the union for the state’s second largest school district.
“If people aren’t going to pay higher taxes as they were, they do have more money in their pocket, but at what cost to society?” Matthews said. “When my water is not clean and I get sick, I’m going to ask what the hell is going on.”
But supporters of Act 10 have argued that asking public employees to contribute more to their health insurance premiums and something to their pensions is on many occasions still much less than what private-sector employees are paying.
Economic spur?
The BHI study found budget reforms freed up as much as $350 million in investment in the state. A correlation? Perhaps. The State Department of Revenue data shows tax revenue is up this year — at least a sign of an improving economy.
Individual income tax collections topped $928 million in April, up 3.6 percent from the same month last year, according to the state Department of Revenue. On the year, income tax collections neared $5.5 billion, up 4.5 percent compared to the first four months of last year.
General sales and use tax collections soared 9.5 percent in April, to $356 million, and were up 4.8 percent in the first four months, to $3.16 billion.
Budget reforms also spurred Wisconsin’s first decline in property taxes in more than a decade.
The Walker administration has reported property taxes had risen 43 percent since 1998, asserting that the average taxpayer would have paid an additional $700 over the current biennium without the budget reforms.
The property tax decrease is largely attributable to state imposed revenue caps, according to the nonpartisan Wisconsin Taxpayers’ Alliance.
Walker’s spokesman Cullen Werwie stuck to message when asked about Act 10’s reported savings to taxpayers.
“Governor Walker’s reforms have improved government services, controlled property taxes and helped the private sector create jobs,” he told Wisconsin Reporter in an email, noting an administration report based on Bureau of Labor Statistics data that shows Wisconsin’s economy created more than 23,000 jobs last year.
State Sen. Glenn Grothman, R-West Bend, who helped in the narrow passage of Act 10, said he believes the benefit of the tax savings is dwarfed by the ability of school districts to control their workforce, promoting better employees and getting rid of the worst employees.
“The schools are able to can bad employees and tell mediocre employees they have to do better. How can you operate a business without that?” Grothman said.
The American Federation of State and Municipal Employees Madison office declined to comment on the story, having not seen the study.
But Matthews of the Madison teachers union said Act 10 took a system that has worked well for 40 years and blew it up in smoke. It’s a collective-bargaining system, Matthews said, that required the best and brightest to constantly improve, to the ultimate benefit of Wisconsin’s classrooms.
“When we’re trying to encourage the best and brightest to teach our kids, we’re not going to do that,” he said. “Who in their right mind is going to take a job based on wages (that are) $10,000 less?
“We have young teachers who can’t qualify to get mortgage for a home. This makes no sense.”
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g-faber
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Walker ahead, Bill unknown in WI recall race
May 24th, 2012
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By Wisconsin Reporter
MADISON – It might be feeling like a Stuart Smalley "Daily Affirmation" for Scott Walker.
Another day, another poll showing the embattled Republican governor leading his Democratic challenger, Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett.
A poll by libertarian Reason magazine shows Walker leading Barrett by 8 percentage points, 50 percent to 42 percent.
The Reason-Rupe poll, conducted May 14-18, surveyed a random sample of 708 Wisconsin adults on cell phones and landlines. The margin of error is plus or minus 3.7 percent.
On Wednesday, a poll released by St. Norbert College and Wisconsin Public Radio showed Walker outpacing Barrett among likely voters, 50 percent to 45 percent, within the poll’s 5 percent margin of error. The telephone survey of 406 respondents was conducted between May 17 and May 22.
The Marquette Law School Poll, one of the most widely tracked polls, is slated for release next Wednesday.
Just in case you’re curious, and we know you are, here are some other interesting findings from the Reason-Rupe poll.
• Voters overwhelmingly support many of the key changes the governor and the Republican-controlled Legislature implemented on public-sector pensions and health care last year.
• 72 percent favor the change requiring public sector workers to increase their pension contributions from less than 1 percent to 5.8 percent of their salaries.
• 71 percent favor making government employees pay 12 percent of their own health care premiums instead of 6 percent.
• 57 percent of respondents say police and firefighters, exempted from the benefits changes, should have to pay, too.
• 65 percent say public sector workers receive better pension and health care benefits than private sector workers.
Is Clinton coming?
At a news conference Thursday morning, Barrett was asked whether former President Bill Clinton would hit the campaign trail for the Milwaukee mayor. Barrett said he didn’t know.
“We would love to have many people come in, and we don’t have anything to report,” he said.
Wisconsin Democrats are asking.
"No kidding has Walker gotten to them too? Where's Michael Moore,Susan (Sarandon) and that Monk guy? (Stephen) Colbert? Sure when we protest and make the national news they want their name out there looking like they are with us. Nice job. It is so disappointing." wrote Colleen Burke of Madison on Wisconsin Reporter'sFacebook site.
Meanwhile, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal stumped for Walker Thursday afternoon. South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, like Jindal a rising star in the Republican Party, is expected to be in Wisconsin campaigning for Walker next week.
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COMMENTARY: Barrett’s internal polling suggests his campaign is dead May 24th, 2012 Share Raise Your Voice Print This Post By Kevin Binversie Independent polls show Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker leading opponent Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett by 6 to 7 points in the June 5 recall vote. So what’s the public to do with Barrett’s own data — polls (here and here) that show the recall is a statistical dead heat? Veteran campaign staffers on the left and right will tell you Barrett’s internal polling suggests his campaign is dead. Sometimes, the release of such internal polling is meant to bolster the sagging spirits of campaign staffers and volunteers looking into the oblivion of total defeat. I once worked on a campaign in which, days before election day, we field staffers were told that our last internal tracking poll had us tied with our opponent. We were ecstatic. And then we lost by 8 points. But don’t take my word for it. Kristen Soltis, director of policy research and pollster for the Washington, D.C.-based Winston Group and contributor to the Huffington Post’s Pollster.com, defended the Barrett campaign and We Are Wisconsin pollsters. She called Stan Greenberg and Fred Yang — pollsters for We Are Wisconsin and the Barrett Campaign, respectively — “very good pollsters who have rock-solid reputations on the Democratic side of the aisle.” Then she offered sage counsel to the average consumer of internal polling data. “You have to remind yourself that pollsters only crunch the numbers,” Soltis told me. “It’s the people who are pushing these numbers out who have an agenda they must be served.” And the people “pushing these numbers out,” she noted, work for a campaign — a “campaign that is only releasing the good news at this point. If their internals are that different from the numbers coming from outside data, the lack of additional information pertaining to their numbers ought to be questioned.” But it’s not just the attempt at manipulating which has increased skepticism about any internal polling number release; it is the complete lack of substantial data attached to it. That “additional information” — for example, the questions pollsters ask and the order in which they ask them — is essential. When most third-party polling is released from a university or professional polling firm, such as Rasmussen Reports or Public Policy Polling, they provide what are called “internals.” Internals are the guts of the poll, and they measure the basic demographics of would-be voters. Very good polling is generally very thorough with this data. Some have such depth that, if asked, their pollsters could probably give you the information on what percentage of rural, white-male voters between the ages of 40 to 50, making less than $50,000, are likely to feel on a number of issues. Now imagine numbers like that, but for every demographic group under the sun. No surprise: Neither the Barrett campaign nor We Are Wisconsin has released any internals with their polling memo releases of the past couple of days. In the absence of such internals, campaigns can cook the books. Speaking to Politico earlier this week, Bismarck-based GOP strategist and pollster Pat Finken admitted it’s easy to manufacture poll numbers for desperate campaigns. “What I suspect happens in a lot of these is that they release the second question after they’ve tested all the positives for your candidate and negatives of the opponent,” Finken said. “You’ve got to see what questions precede it. The swing from the front to the back of that questionnaire can be 10 points.” Finken told Politico he could easily massage numbers he had from April that put Republican U.S. Rep. Rick Berg of North Dakota up 7 points in his U.S. Senate race against Democrat Heidi Heitkamp and make it look like Berg was up 15 depending on the sample size and how he phrased questioning. Sometimes the release of internal polling serves fundraising. Sometimes it’s to generate headlines. Most of the time — as in the Barrett campaign — it’s simply a blatant attempt to manipulate the public with phony numbers. So it’s best to be careful when you hear about internal polling this late in a campaign. Otherwise you look foolish — like the pollsters behind the Shelly Moore campaign in last summer’s recall against state Sen. Shelia Harsdorf, R-Hudson. Two weeks before Election Day, they produced an internal polling memo showing Moore up 2 points. Moore lost the election to Harsdorf by 15 points.
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| 25 May 2012 08:43 AM |
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Now is not the time to get complacent---Now is the time to make the Big push---Vote and inform others to vote----If any Sportsman votes for Barrett they should move to Illinois----Or California------Barrett--anti Gun---Anti hunter--- |
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5/25/2012
5:26:00 AM
The Lakeland
Times endorses Scott Walker for governor
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Lakeland Times opinion
This probably won't come as any
shock to our regular readers, but The
Lakeland Times is strongly recommending
that voters return Scott Walker to the
office he legitimately won in November
2010.
Our newspaper does not usually make
endorsements; we do so only when we
consider an election to be of particular
importance. This one is, obviously, not
only for Wisconsin but for the nation.
We stress the word 'legitimacy' in making
the case. The recall election simply
cannot be called legitimate by any
measure. It is an obvious - and expensive
- misuse of the system to promote a narrow
political agenda. Whether one likes Gov.
Walker's policies or not, all should agree
that no special interest should be allowed
to take the machinery of democracy hostage
for its own ends.
It is, in a way, the equivalent of an
attempted coup d'etat.
We do not abhor recalls per se. When an
elected official is proven guilty of
criminal or ethical violations, or of
gross malfeasance on the job, the voters
should have a way to remove that official.
But, by the same token, those officials
should be immune to blatantly political
attempts to overturn elections because of
policy disagreements.
And that is exactly what we have
here: Policy disagreements.
We should point out that reform is much
needed to make sure such a miscarriage of
political justice does not happen again.
In these days of social media and online
organizing, it is easy to gain enough
signatures to recall anybody, even those
at the height of their popularity. These
days, Fighting Bob La Follette would be
recalled in a heartbeat.
He would survive the election, of course,
as we expect and hope Mr. Walker does. But
the damage to the system is done. The
damage to the taxpayers' wallets is done.
The damage to democratic enthusiasm is
done, for aren't we all weary now of
election after election?
Weary, yes, but that's not to say the
voters won't turn out to renounce the
guerilla tactics of the unions in
Wisconsin. They will, and they must, if
only to preserve the integrity of
democracy in our state.
That said, there are more than matters of
integrity and legitimacy at stake. The
truth is, Gov. Walker's reforms have
turned the state around in dramatic
fashion, leaving Democratic challenger Tom
Barrett laboring heavily - pardon the pun
- to find a credible rationale for his
candidacy.
After all, the very reason for the recall
in the first place was Mr. Walker's curbs
on collective bargaining. But as the
governor has pointed out, and as
Politifact has grudgingly and obtusely
conceded, those reforms have saved school
districts and local governments a ton of
money so far, more than $1 billion
statewide by most estimates.
Those savings are precisely the reason
most polls show the public solidly
favoring the collective bargaining reforms
championed by Mr. Walker.
And what does Milwaukee mayor Barrett have
to say about that? Nothing. That's right,
mum's the word on collective bargaining.
Not only have the reforms worked but they
have worked for Barrett himself, who used
them to balance his city's budget rather
than negotiate new and bloated union
contracts.
So the very reason for the recall has long
ago vaporized, and with it so should have
the recall. But determined union bosses,
angry that their power and privilege had
been called out, carried on. It has been
an ongoing, in-your-face confrontation
with the people of Wisconsin.
The protesters had to have some issue, of
course, and so they turned to jobs. That,
too, has turned out to be a losing
proposition because it is abundantly clear
that state job creation is on the rebound
after years of bleeding under the previous
Democratic administration. Under Gov. Jim
Doyle, the state lost more than 100,000 in
his last three years; under Mr. Walker,
Wisconsin has gained about 23,000 jobs in
a still weak economy.
That's because, as Mr. Walker likes to
say, Wisconsin is open for business again.
Taxes are lower, and regulations are
fewer, and there is a sense that the
private sector can actually operate
profitably again.
Mr. Barrett does not have an answer for
this. He sputters about, throwing around
monthly job numbers everyone knows to be
wrong. Even the Bureau of Labor Statistics
warns against using those numbers in any
way beyond the national aggregate because
the sampling becomes too small to be
reliable.
What's worse, as mayor, Mr. Barrett has
presided over an unemployment rate
increase of more than 27 percent, and he
has guided Milwaukee into the top ten of
America's most impoverished cities. He is
hardly the candidate to be campaigning on
the issue of jobs and the economy.
What next? How about corruption? In the
last week or so the Democrats have been
hammering away at the John Doe probe of
Mr. Walker's former aides. But it is
nothing more than innuendo and
unsubstantiated allegations floating in a
boat of desperation. There is not a
scintilla of evidence implicating Mr.
Walker in any way.
Indeed, when it comes to the most serious
allegations and findings of embezzlement,
it was Mr. Walker's team who alerted
authorities. Rather than being a subject
of investigation, the Walker camp
initiated it.
Other, more minor charges of campaigning
on public time have not touched the
governor. We do not minimize the
seriousness of such allegations, but
nothing has suggested Mr. Walker's
involvement.
All of which leaves us scratching our
heads. Exactly what will Mr. Barrett do
differently than Mr. Walker?
He pledges in a hazy way to restore
collective bargaining and other spending
cuts the governor made to wipe out a
$3.6-billion structural deficit, but Mr.
Barrett refuses to tell us exactly how he
will pay for it. Until he tells us
otherwise, we have to presume he would
return us to the tax-and-borrow days of
the Doyle administration. So say welcome,
old friends, when higher taxes and steep
deficits show up on the doorstep.
We assume Mr. Barrett would simply pull
out the old Democratic playbook, in part
because that is what Democrats do, and in
part because we cannot remember the last
time Mr. Barrett actually had an original
idea. Seriously, if we set out to build
the world's most uninspiring and
nonoriginal candidate and went to the
store and bought a kit to do it, we would
find Mr. Barrett when we opened it up.
Mr. Barrett pins his hopes on not being
Scott Walker. That is perhaps the one idea
he has had, but it turns out not to be a
very good one: Public opinion polls have
Mr. Walker's approval ratings in the
positive and Mr. Barrett's in the
negative.
There are several other strands in the
narrative of this election that should be
addressed. One is that Mr. Walker
effectively lied during his 2010 campaign
by not telling people what he was going to
do about collective bargaining. That is
just silly and absurd.
Mr. Walker, of course, says he talked
forcefully if not specifically about
coming labor changes, and that is true
enough. But even if he didn't, a newly
derived policy decision does not justify
recall.
What office holder has not unveiled new
policy proposals once settled into office
and having surveyed the political terrain
from new vantage points? One new vantage
point Mr Walker had was the unexpected
election of GOP majorities in both the
Senate and the Assembly. Suddenly a lot
more was possible with Republicans running
all three branches of government.
Elections have consequences. Suddenly a
lot more could be done for the taxpayers
and job creators of the state.
And if what's good for the goose is good
for the gander, then a bill of impeachment
for President Barack Obama should have
accompanied Mr. Walker's recall petitions,
for Mr. Obama actually lied about health
care during his 2008 run for the
presidency. Back then, before he was
elected, he vociferously opposed an
individual health insurance mandate but
promptly endorsed it once elected. Why
weren't the unions and Democrats screaming
about "the lie" and organizing his
impeachment?
We have not failed to criticize the
governor when it has been warranted. For
one thing, his administration has not been
as aggressive on open records and open
meetings laws as we had hoped. For
another, he usurped too much
administrative rule power when he should
have focused on giving that power to the
Legislature, where it belongs.
But that is all so much quibbling. The
fact is, his administration is still far
more transparent than Mr. Doyle's, and
state bureaucracies have had their wings
clipped, if they have not been grounded
altogether. And so we believe it is better
to climb the cliff a half-step at a time
rather than to give up and just jump to
the ravine below.
The truth is, the state has squandered
millions of taxpayer dollars on this
recall, money none of us can get back, and
not one thing is going to change because
of it. Even if Mr. Walker were to lose,
his collective bargaining reforms - his
legacy - will remain, probably forever.
Barring mass serial killings by GOP
legislators, the Republicans will keep the
Assembly at least, and, thanks to
redistricting, the party has a good shot
at the Senate, too. It only takes one
chamber to block the return of collective
bargaining privileges for the union class.
The unions know this, of course. This
election is not about restoring collective
bargaining. It about revenge. It is about
disruption. It is about short-circuiting
economic progress until power can be
regained.
Unfortunately for the Democrats and the
unions, revenge is a dish best served
cold. In this heated environment, they
have succeeded only in energizing the
conservative base. We simply remind that
base they still need to vote to continue
progress.
We encourage them to do so. Instead of
returning to days of high taxes and
burdensome regulations, instead of
returning to the days when the state was
run by powerful public-sector unions and
their bureaucratic allies, we believe the
state should continue to move forward in
the current environment of promoting
personal and economic liberty.
We believe we should stick with the man we
elected in 2010, and the agenda of change
and reform he ushered in.
We believe the people should vote for Gov.
Scott Walker on June 5.
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if walker makes this a right to work state all wages will go down union or non union ,pretty ironic a republican ended slaverly and another one wants it back http://www.channel3000.com/news/Wal...index.html |
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if walker makes this a right to work state all wages will go down union or non union ,pretty ironic a republican ended slaverly and another one wants it back http://www.channel3000.com/news/Wal...index.html |
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I just can't believe what lying cheating underhanded people the democrats are showing they are with this RECALL this is not an election it is a RECALL and the information being provided by the left has nothing to do with the original want/need for a recall. Just one lie after another!! Scare tactics, misinformation, the thing that amazes me the most is Walker hasn't challenged any of it or tried to bring it back on topic. |
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| 01 Jun 2012 10:04 AM |
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..I.. channel 3/3000 is the worst news I have ever seen, maybe you need a new source of info?? |
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Walker is the kind of politician that does what he says he has said numerous times he is not interested in making Wisconsin a right to work state and won't. This is simply about the WEA trust and their abuse of the tax payers. As for Barrett he has abused the tax payers his entire career and has said he will continue to do so at the risk of jobs and companies. Are liberals really that drunk ? |
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That is some pretty potent kool-aid they're drinking and they're drinking it like there was no tomorrow!!!  |
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then why didnt he say that during the debates. walker and barrett shared the same bed as milwaukee county exec and mayor so they can both share the blame for financial burdens their.how can you trust someone who has a legal defense fund set up and two criminal lawyers on retainor. if you watched the debates he couldnt give a straight answer on hardly anything. he doesnt care about anyone unless they have an eight digit income.thats before the decimal |
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g-faber
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| 04 Jun 2012 06:52 PM |
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He's gettin my vote tomorrow...again... |
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Badger 55
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| 04 Jun 2012 09:52 PM |
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He just got mine, AGAIN!!!!! |
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| 05 Jun 2012 12:57 PM |
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Walker Got mine ! and Wife,s---Son,s---Brother and wife and good Buddy  |
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Badger 55
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| 05 Jun 2012 08:53 PM |
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YAHOO...... WALKER WINS AGAIN!
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..l..
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reports have the senate now under democrat control so maybe wisconsin wont be for sale after all |
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Badger 55
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Thats all your kind is about.... control..... when do you start thinking about whats good for the voters and State? I guess never....it's all about control!
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welcome to politics 101 just think what it would be like with no repubs or dems or special interest groups dumping money in their laps, it will be interesting to see how good for the state scooter really is |
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So far so good, would've been even better without all this bs recall distraction for most of his term so far. |
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