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I heard it was signed yesterday.
Other than the legislature deciding To buck the DNR, and run the opener of the wolf season in conjunction with the deer hunting season I didn't hear any other details. Did they pull their head out and decide to sell more licenses???
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DNR MEDIA
ADVISORY
MAY 21, 2012
Media contacts: Steve
Merchant, wildlife programs manager, 651-259-5220, or Chris Niskanen,
communications director, 651-259-5023.
DNR to outline wolf season proposal, seek public input
WHAT:
The Minnesota Department of Natural Resources (DNR) will provide details on
how it proposes to manage this year's wolf hunting and trapping season.
WHO:
Dennis Simon, DNR Wildlife Section chief.
Steve Merchant, DNR wildlife programs manager.
WHEN:
Monday, May 21, 12:30 p.m.
WHERE:
Via teleconference
Dial-in number: 888-742-5095
Conference code: 3617523886
NOTE:
Steve Merchant, DNR wildlife programs manager, will be available for TV/radio
interviews from 2-2:30 p.m. at 500
Lafayette Road, St. Paul.
To schedule an interview, contact Steve Carroll, DNR information officer, at steve.carroll@state.mn.us or
651-259-5342.
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ADVISORY
MAY 21, 2012 Media contacts: Steve
Merchant, wildlife programs manager, 651-259-5220, or Chris Niskanen,
communications director, 651-259-5023. DNR to outline wolf season proposal, seek public input WHAT: The Minnesota Department of
Natural Resources (DNR) will provide details on how it proposes to manage this
year’s wolf hunting and trapping season. WHO: Dennis
Simon, DNR Wildlife Section chief. Steve Merchant, DNR
wildlife programs manager. WHEN:
Monday, May 21, 12:30
p.m. WHERE: Via
teleconference Dial-in number: 888-742-5095
Conference code: 3617523886 NOTE: Steve Merchant, DNR wildlife programs manager, will be available for
TV/radio interviews from 2-2:30 p.m. at 500 Lafayette Road, St. Paul. To
schedule an interview, contact Steve Carroll, DNR information officer, at
651-259-5342 or steve.carroll@state.mn.us. |
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Here is the info: DNR outlines wolf season details -- a two part hunt and trapMinnesota’s first regulated wolf hunting and trapping season will
be conducted this fall and winter. The DNR is proposing to split the
season into two parts: an early wolf hunting season coinciding with
firearms deer hunting; and a late wolf hunting and trapping season after
the firearms deer season for those with a specific interest in wolf
hunting and trapping. The early hunting only season will be open only in the northern
portions of Minnesota where rifles are allowed for deer hunting. It will
start on Saturday, Nov. 3, the opening day of firearms deer hunting. It
will close either at the end of the respective firearms seasons in the
two northern deer zones (Nov. 18 in Zone 1 or Nov. 11 in Zone 2), or
when a registered target harvest quota of 200 is reached, whichever
comes sooner. According to Wildlife Program manager Steve Merchant, wolf kills must be registered almost immediately after taken. “Persons will have to register the wolves that they take by the end
of the day following the day of harvest. We will have a mechanism that
will keep track of those registrations. It’s an electronic system where
people can register their wolves by either taking them in to an ELS
agent or use the telephone or online. As those people register those
animals, it’s reported and communicated to us, so that’s how we will
know.” The late hunting and trapping season will begin Saturday, Nov. 24. It
will close Jan. 6, 2013, or when a registered total target harvest
quota of 400 in both seasons combined is reached, whichever comes
sooner. The late season will be open statewide. A total of 6,000 licenses will be offered, with 3,600 available in
the early season and 2,400 in the late season. The target harvest quota
will be 400 wolves for both seasons combined, and will initially be
allocated equally between the early and the late seasons.
Tribal government may elect to hold their own wolf seasons, and Merchant said the DNR is consulting with them. “We’re having continued conversation with tribes. I am unaware at
this time of any tribes who have elected to hunt wolves, but they
certainly may.” Wolf hunting licenses will be $30 for residents and $250 for
nonresidents. Wolf trapping licenses will be $30 and limited to
residents only. A lottery will be held to select license recipients. The
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| 28 May 2012 11:36 AM |
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GOOD LUCK ON THE DRAW, Y'ALL!!! Whack'em and stack'em! And congratulations for beating the AR'S !!!! |
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| 02 Jun 2012 01:11 PM |
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FUGG Man, I just saw where the fugging AR's are starting a campagin to have their fugging members apply for a tag!!! AZZHOLES !!! I think the news release may have named you bud.....said sumthin bout jackpine rednecks.... |
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TOM IN TENNESSEE
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| 21 Jun 2012 10:36 AM |
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I give up, you Jackpine Redneck who wants to kill the family pet....could not recover the link anydamnwhere..... Whack'em and Stack'em!! |
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Lunkerdog
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| 21 Jun 2012 10:29 PM |
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Fair enough Tom. If you happen to draw an out of state tag, let me know, I'll put you into wolf country. I'm no guide, But I live here, I can find them  |
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| 08 Jul 2012 10:22 AM |
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Mark_D
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DNR announces wolf season details
The Minnesota Department of Natural Resources has finalized
rules for Minnesota’s first regulated wolf hunting and trapping season
this fall and winter.
There are several changes to what the DNR originally proposed in May
as a result of input received since the proposal was announced. The hunt
start date remains the same -- Saturday, Nov. 3.
“We changed the closing date for the late season from Jan. 6, 2013,
to Jan. 31,” said Steve Merchant, DNR wildlife program manager. “We also
tightened the wolf harvest registration requirement so we can more
quickly close a zone based on harvest results.”
Another notable change is that the wolf range will be divided into
three zones for the purposes of harvest targets, registration and season
closure.
The northeast zone and the east-central zone closely parallel the
1854 and 1837 treaty ceded territory boundaries. These zones will allow
the state to allocate and manage wolf harvest in consultation with
Indian bands that have off-reservation hunting rights.
The northwest zone will be the other area open to wolf hunting. When
harvest targets are reached in any zone, that zone will be closed and
hunters will be able to continue to hunt in any other open zone.
The season will be split into two parts: an early wolf hunting season
coinciding with firearms deer hunting; and a late wolf hunting and
trapping season after the firearms deer season. Trapping will begin Nov.
24. The target harvest remains 400.
Merchant said the public comment period that ended June 20 was
helpful. The DNR received 7,351 online survey responses. He said of
those who approved of the season, 82 percent said they supported the
proposed structure. However, the DNR reported earlier at the close of
the comment period, that about 5,800 respondents did not approve of a
wolf hunt season at all.
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| 22 Jul 2012 09:07 PM |
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TGJ
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| 23 Jul 2012 07:42 AM |
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Just checked the DNR website and nothing. |
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| 27 Jul 2012 07:31 AM |
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| 27 Jul 2012 07:41 AM |
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WELCOME to the 2012 Minnesota hunting seasons. New regulations are listed below. Have a safe and enjoyable hunt. NEW REGULATIONS FOR 2012 Wolf season • Application materials for a wolf license will be available online in early August. The application deadline is Sept. 6 and online winner notification will be no later than Oct. 14. Further details will be announced. |
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TOM IN TENNESSEE
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| 28 Jul 2012 12:58 PM |
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Me and my PeTA and HSUS buds are gonna get all the tags....buncha Jackpine Savages....rednecks....wanting to kill our cudly dog like friends..... |
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Lunkerdog
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| 28 Jul 2012 10:10 PM |
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Tom, even if zero PETA, and HSUS members get a tag I'll be surprised if 3/4 of the quota is met. Twolves are an awfully wily critter. I know people my age (50 years next month) and older that have never seen a wolf in the woods. I have to give them a break on the first season, but Oct 14th is an awfully late date for everyone to have to adjust their schedules if they're lucky enough to get a tag. Thus, a part of the scramble I mentioned  |
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| 28 Jul 2012 10:32 PM |
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Yeah I think they are getting a late jump as well. I personally am going for a late tag, I think people will be more succesfull then, when you can go out a focus on calling and hunting for them and not worry about deer hunting. I think they are banking to much on wolves just running past people sitting in their deer stands. |
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| 29 Jul 2012 12:00 PM |
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I'll be applying for the second season as well.
In my area it's actually not uncommon to see wolves from your deer stand. We're the only year round residents on a mile long dead end road, but from the end of the county road, a two mile UN-maintained township road continues, and there are five camps on it. The camps add up to about 25 to 30 hunters, and someone is always seeing wolves... But... I've got a feeling that once a couple of wolves are shot at, that's going to change in a hurry.
Also, seeing wolves is one thing, actually shooting them is another. I don't consider many of those hunters to be what I would consider a good shooter. If I throw myself into the mix, only three of us reload our ammo, and we're the only three that shoot throughout the year, and practice long range shooting.
I easily see a half dozen wolves a year. Most of those encounters are at the 100yds+ range.
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Here is the final word  on the season Applications for Minnesota’s first-ever regulated wolf hunting
and trapping season are being taken now through Thursday, Sept. 6,
according to the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources (DNR). Individuals may apply for only one license from three available options: - Early season hunting, which runs from Nov. 3 through Nov.18 in all
Series 100 areas and Nov. 3 through Nov. 11 in Series 200 areas located
within the northwest wolf hunting zone.
- Late season hunting, which runs from Nov. 24 through Jan. 31, 2013, in all three wolf zones.
- Late season trapping, which runs from Nov. 24 through Jan. 31, 2013, in all three wolf zones.
Target harvests have been established in each of the state’s three
wolf hunting zones. If a target harvest is achieved, hunting and
trapping will be closed in that zone. The statewide target harvest is
400 wolves, which includes all three wolf zones. The lottery will award 3,600 licenses during the early season and
2,400 during the late season, at least 600 of which will be for
trapping. Application can be made at any DNR license agent, via
telephone at 888-665-4236 or online. There is a $4 application fee. All applicants must show proof of a current or previous hunting license. Lottery winners will be notified. Licenses will go on sale by Monday,
Oct. 15. Wolf licenses cost $30 for residents and $250 for
nonresidents. The statewide bag limit is one wolf. Lottery winners will receive a wolf hunting booklet with their notification. Additional information about wolves is available online.
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| 07 Aug 2012 06:28 PM |
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Twolftg
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| 08 Aug 2012 09:58 PM |
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Has anyone applied yet, when you fill out your lottery app is asks you to pick a season and they are list A, B, and C. A: is obvious because it is the only early season date but B & C are the same dates, does anyone know which is trapping and which is shooting? I want to apply for late season hunting but I am not sure which is which and I cannot find it anywhere on the DNR website. |
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A two part series on hunting wolves in the lower 48 is going to be on the sportsman channel. I believe it starts on the 18th, in case anyone is interested. |
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| 19 Aug 2012 10:14 PM |
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TW, I hope I guessed right. They had the seasons listed as early hunt/late hunt/late trapping. I assumed that option B was the late hunt, and applied for that option. Niemz, if the trend continues I think that everyone who applies will get a license. I was listening to NPR yesterday and they stated that just 3000 of the 6000 licenses have been applied for. I have to admit that I was pretty surprised. If you would have asked me a couple of months ago I would have guessed that about 25% of deer hunters would be applying for a wolf license. That would have been over 200,000 applicants. So much for my speculation!!! |
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Lunkerdog, I applied at the DNR counter at the Fair and told him I wanted to hunt second season and he said that was the second option so you should be good. |
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| 24 Aug 2012 09:26 AM |
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Glad to hear that that the second option was the late season. Thats what I went for, wife put in for deer season one. |
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I joined the lottery today for the B season. I have always wanted to try hunting coyotes but with wolves in the area I was reluctant.  If I succeed in the drawing I won't have to worry about miss-identification  . -MD |
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There was quite a rush in the last two weeks. At a glance one may think that we have about a 25% chance of getting a tag. I haven't seen the breakdown yet, but I'm Guessing (Hoping) that most of the applications are going to be for the first season. I hope those of us that applied for the second season will have better odds. |
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What I don't understand is why it is going to take the computer a month to figure out who gets a license. The way I see it, deadline was the 6th give it a week for postal applicatins to come in and you should be able to have this thing figured out with 2 weeks tops. |
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| 09 Sep 2012 12:06 PM |
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TW, since this is the first year of this hunting season I'm giving the DNR a pass. Hopefully they'll be better organized next year.
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I ran the numbers but I don't know what I did with them, but it truns out those that applied for the early season wolf will have better odds of getting a license then those of us that did late season due to the ammount they are giving out in the early season. I guess I figured it would have been the other way around. |
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Niemz, I believe that the late timing was intentional. We all know that the courts take time. I believe that their trying to get their injunction "just" before the season is scheduled to start so there won't be time for our side to appeal the decision before opening day  This is from Tom's link. "Minnesota’s first wolf hunt in nearly a half-century is scheduled to
begin Nov. 3 with the opening of the deer firearms season; the state’s
rules provide that 6,000 licenses will be sold to kill 400 wolves. The
lawsuit filed today asks the Minnesota Court of Appeals to prevent
implementation of wolf hunting and trapping rules until the court can
issue its decision in the case". I hope that their little bit of "trickery" doesn't work!!! TWolf, I'd like to see that breakdown. The odds are as dependent on how many hunters applied for each season as it is for the number of tags available. This is just a guess, but it would make sense to me that more people applied for the first season. Of course, I was so far off on my initial guess as to how many applicant's there would be in the first place I'm almost afraid to speculate anymore  Tom, this is also from your link. Instead of offering a formal public comment period, the DNR offered an online survey
before adopting the details of how wolves would be shot and trapped.
More than 75 percent of the comments opposed killing wolves. The
groups also claim that lawmakers violated their own 2001 wolf management
plan that called for a five-year moratorium on wolf hunting and
trapping once the animals were taken off the federal endangered species
list.
That management plan was put in place by a different congress 11 years ago. There has been plenty of "study" here in MN., and elsewhere since then.
I have not read the wolf hunting bill myself, but as I'm hearing it on MPR, the DNR was ordered by congress to organize a season for this Fall, so I can only guess that, that was in the bill.
If that's true hopefully it will be enough to sink the anti's case. The anti's are going after the DNR, but if I'm right the DNR was ordered by our state government to implement the wolf hunt.
IMO, this is just an attempt by the anti's to be disruptive, and in the end won't accomplish much more than that. Whether it's this year or not, the wolf hunt will eventually happen.
I don't know the logistics as to where any of these anti's live, but I'd bet that the overwhelming majority don't live in wolf country, and don't have to worry on a day to day basis whether or not one of their animals will be killed by wolfs.
Anyone that deals with the Minnesota Northwoods on a daily basis understands that over the years not only have the wolf #'s increased, but the wolves themselves have grown much bolder in their actions. On several occasions within the past five years I've had wolves within 150ft of my front door, and I've had them less than 100ft of my backdoor.
I've had discussions with our area Forrester, our area Game Warden, a Federal trapper and a local trapper that lives a mile away from us and has lost many an animal from his traps to wolves. It's a consensus amongst us that the wolves are getting more than just a little out of control in this region.
For me the wolf hunt is more of a reclamation of my area than it is a recreational sport.
For me there is one good thing that came out of the de-listing of the wolves that this injunction (if it's successful) won't prevent. In March of 2011 when the wolves first came in after my dogs (that I'm aware of) I couldn't legally shoot them. If they come after my dogs now I can
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Lunke rI found the numbers. 12,067 applications for the early season with 3,600 licenses going out, which figures to be 1 out 3.35 will get a license. While 7,621 applied for the late season with 2,400 license with at least 600 going to trappers. So assuming it is only 600, that leaves 1800 licenses at a rate of 1 to 4.23 per applied. |
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Thanks TWolf, so were just under a 25% chance (injunction not withstanding) of getting a tag. I wonder how many trappers actually applied? I considered it, but when I thought it threw decided not to. At this point between not having the experience, and realizing that I would have to run several traps it seemed like to much to go for with such a short time to get organized. Besides, knowing my luck, even with my lack of experience I'd wind up catching two wolves  I'll see how it all shakes out this year. Who knows? Maybe next year I'll be more prepared to try the trapping. |
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Thanks Tom.
As far as WI. goes, I'm not sure if it's what your referring too, but I know that some groups were going after the use of dogs to hunt wolves, which IMHO is not a good way to hunt them anyway.
Not that I'm against running dogs for hunting. It's that knowing a little bit about the nature of wolves it doesn't seem like a very smart way to hunt them. They won't tree like a bear, or a cat, and they have such a large territory ( I could see one on my property right now, and it could be 50 miles away by this time tomorrow if I frighten in enough) it's unlikely that they will circle like a deer or fox will. Also the bear hunters in WI. have been complaining for years that the wolves have been killing their dogs when they're training them on bears.
I guess if you know your terrain well enough you may be able to catch them at certain pinch points, but predicting the actions of a pursued wolf is tricky. They may take some young wolves using dogs, but all in all, it doesn't strike me as a very good idea.
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Rep. Dill: Wolf season will go on as scheduled
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Well, that shoots the 25% chance theory in the foot  That leaves Niemz, and TWolf, hopefully one of them will get drawn. |
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TWolf, I expect to see changes next year, but am not so sure that it will be about the quota.
Tho I too believe that they won't reach the 400 wolf quota, I get the sense that the DNR see's it more as an allowance, than a goal.
Maybe it's just my inherent paranoia, but it seems to me that the DNR is reluctantly dealing with the wolf season. Or to clarify it better, there are factions within the DNR that are very much against the wolf hunt, and are only dealing with because they have too.
On a lighter note, yesterday I heard that the recent attempts to block this years wolf season have failed in court.
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Well there may still be hope for some of us yet this season. http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2012/...kxM8.email and this was on the DNR site: "Early season wolf hunters have until Oct. 24 to buy licenses (Released October 15, 2012) Hunters selected by lottery for the early wolf hunting season must purchase their license by Wednesday, Oct. 24. Any early season licenses not sold by that date will be made available at noon on Monday, Oct. 29, on a first-come, first-served basis to early or late season applicants not selected in the lottery. Any eligible hunter, regardless of whether he or she entered the wolf season lottery, may purchase a remaining early season license at noon on Thursday, Nov. 1. To date, the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources (DNR) has sold 1,155 of the 3,600 wolf licenses available for the early hunting season, which coincides with firearms deer season in each of Minnesota’s three wolf hunting zones. Licenses are available from any DNR license agent, online or by telephone at 888-665-4236. Complete wolf hunting regulations are available online. Hunters selected by lottery for the late hunting and trapping season, which runs from Saturday, Nov. 24, to Thursday, Jan. 31, 2013, must buy their licenses by Thursday, Nov. 15. Any late season licenses not sold by that date will be available at noon on Monday, Nov. 19, on a first-come, first-served basis to early or late season applicants not selected in the lottery. Remaining licenses will be available for purchase by any eligible hunter at noon on Wednesday, Nov. 21. To date, DNR has sold 305 of the 1,800 late season wolf hunting licenses available and 166 of the 600 wolf trapping licenses available. More than 23,000 hunters entered the lottery to participate in Minnesota’s inaugural wolf hunting season. Minnesota assumed state management of the gray wolf after the species was removed Jan. 27 from federal protection in Minnesota, Wisconsin and Michigan. Minnesota’s wolf population is estimated to be about 3,000 wolves. The target harvest of 400 wolves for this inaugural wolf season is a conservative approach that does not pose a threat to the conservation of the population. Additional information about wolf management in Minnesota is available online." |
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Reminder!! Unsold Minn. wolf hunting licenses to go on sale Submitted by wtip on Fri, 10/26/2012 - 8:47am Around Cook County feedsetimg.jpeg BEMIDJI, Minn. (AP) — Hunters will have another chance if they didn't win a lottery for Minnesota's early season wolf hunting licenses. More than 600 wolf hunting licenses go on sale next week after going unsold to winners of a lottery. Minnesota Department of Natural Resources officials say 2,985 lottery winners purchased wolf licenses by the midnight Wednesday deadline. The remaining 615 will go on sale at noon Monday for people who applied for this fall's lottery but were not selected. If any wolf hunt licenses are left after that, they'll be made available to the public on November 1st. Minnesota's first managed wolf hunt begins November 3rd, the same day as deer hunting season. |
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Hey, I will get to hunt wolf. Well kinda, a friend got a late season tag and I get to help...... And if there are left overs for the second season I will try for one.. |
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About three weeks ago when we got our first snow I found tracks on the road where a wolf had chased my dog home, he chased him for about 50 yards. I also had a wolf cross the road about 1/4 mile in front of me yesterday when I was driving to work. It was only 1 mile North of our home, and heading South. I couldn't find any info about the second season on the DNR web site  |
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I tried to buy one of the 600 licenses that became available at noon today, I figured I would buy my firearm one as well. That delay might have cost me the wolf tag. The cashier tried to process the purchase at 1202 and it said sold out! Man that was quick. |
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The wife got one. The hunt is on............
Mind your calibers, and cartridges TGJ. The wolf hunt is not a "party hunt". Just sayin   When you read the registration requirements, Well... We'll see what next year brings... the "State" better figure it out  |
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I tried to buy one of the 600 licenses that became available at noon today, I figured I would buy my firearm one as well. That delay might have cost me the wolf tag. The cashier tried to process the purchase at 1202 and it said sold out! Man that was quick.
ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) — Minnesota has quickly sold out its remaining wolf hunt licenses for the early season.
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Has anyone heard if the second season tags sold out? I believe the deadline was the 15th. I don't know if it's true, but I heard that the majority of the 614 tags that didn't sell in the early season were left by anti's that were trying to mess with the hunt, but didn't spend the money for the tags. If it is true, I guess that trick didn't work as the leftover tags sold out in less than five minutes  |
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LD, Here is the info. -MD Surplus wolf hunting licenses go on sale Monday, November 19 Submitted by wtip on Sat, 11/17/2012 - 7:32am Around Cook County Applicants not selected in this year’s early or late season wolf license lottery can purchase a surplus hunting or trapping license on a first-come, first-served basis beginning at noon on Monday, Nov. 19. The Minnesota Department of Natural Resources says there are 187 surplus hunting licenses and 130 surplus trapping licenses available for the late season. The late season begins Saturday, Nov. 24, and concludes Thursday, Jan. 31, 2013, provided late season harvest targets in each of Minnesota’s three wolf zones are not met. Eligible hunters and trappers may purchase a surplus license of their choice regardless of the season they selected when applying for the lottery. When buying a surplus license, purchasers must specify a firearm license to hunt or a wolf trapping license to trap. An individual may purchase only one wolf license. Surplus late season wolf hunting and trapping licenses are valid when the late season is open in any of the state’s three wolf hunting zones. Trappers born after Dec. 31, 1989, must have a trapper education certificate to purchase a surplus wolf trapping license if they have not purchased a trapping license in a previous license year. If all licenses are not purchased by unsuccessful applicants, any eligible hunter or trapper, regardless of whether he or she entered the wolf season lottery, may purchase a remaining late season license beginning at noon on Wednesday, Nov. 21. Surplus wolf licenses are available from any DNR license agent or online at www.mndnr.gov/buyalicense. Online buyers should proceed to checkout immediately after selecting a surplus wolf license and quickly submit payment information to improve their chances of obtaining a license. The DNR allocated 2,400 wolf licenses for the late hunting and trapping season. Complete wolf hunting regulations are available online at www.mndnr.gov/hunting/wolf.
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I posted this in the Misc. forum, but see that I forgot to post it here. A week ago today I had this guy come threw at 11:02PM. On Thursday morning we let the dog out at a little after 7:00AM, we've not seen him since then. I really wanted one of those surplus tags  |
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CA, I've been watching the HWY for Ravens, but haven't seen any yet.
We also had hunters in the camps off of the end of our road, but most of them knew Buddy. He' was as friendly with them as he was with you, so I don't believe that any of them shot him. Besides they were over a mile away, and we've never had any indication that Buddy ranged that far away. In the past we had a dog that did range that way, and the guys in the camps didn't waste any time letting me know that, so I've pretty much ruled that scenario out.
Other than road kill or the wolf, the only other thing I can come up with is that someone took him.
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Not a hint CA.
Some of you may remember when I posted about a local trapper that caught Buddy back in 2010. I saw him last year when he was baiting bears in my area, that was right after Clarence had been killed. I warned him about the traps that the federal trapper had around so he wouldn't disturb them. I talked to that trapper on Saturday, he told me that about two weeks after I told him about Clarence last year the wolves took his Chesapeake. That trapper lives a little more than mile away from us.
When I talked to that trapper in 2010 he told that he had a line off of the Harris road that he had to pull because the wolves kept robbing his traps. CA, just for a reference, the area we Grouse hunt at can be accessed from the North from the Harris road.
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Tom, I agree, dogs don't stand a chance. Tho it would seem that for many years ole Lunker, and Clarence Maki were able to hold them at bay.
We moved here in 97 with a female lab mix named Sheba. After a close call between the wolves and Sheba in the Spring of 98 we decided to get Lunk. He was advertised as a Newfie/Shepard mix, but it was clear that he also had some Chow in him.
In the Spring of 99 we had a litter of mutts from Sheba and Lunk, Clarence Maki was the one we kept. Not wanting any more pups, we traded Sheba for Sam-E-Dog. Sam was a German Short Hair/Springer Spaniel mix that belonged to my step-son who lived in town, and couldn't keep him on a chain. Sam was quite the escape artist.
We lost Sam to the Highway around 2006. We still had Lunk, and Clarence Maki.
In the Spring of 2010 I finally had to put Lunk down. From the time we got Lunk in 98, until the Spring of 2011 we never had any issues with the wolves. I've been feeding the wolves ever since. In their prime Lunk, and Clarence Maki were 100+lbs each. For whatever reason, they kept the wolves away for a long time. Personally I believe that it was Lunks tenacity, I had many friends that wouldn't get out of their vehicles until I came outside because the way Lunk acted was so intimidating.
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I have been suprised by the North West #'s. They seem to be a lot less than I thought I would see, as the area is so much larger and the quota so much higher.
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I'd like to see a breakdown of those taken by hunters vs. those taken by trappers.
As I understood it, they were hoping that the proficiency of the trappers would help them reach the quota's.
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When I put the dog out this morning we was standing on the deck and barking to the NE. Late morning my wife put the dog out and saw a wolf in the backyard. Luckily Winston had not left the deck and she got him back inside. I went out and checked the trail cam but had no pictures. I didn't even have pictures of the deer who left their tracks  . I made sure I turned the camera on after I put the memory card back in. We usually see a wolf some time during the winter. Winston will be better supervised for a while. -MD |
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I saw a wolf along the highway New Years Eve. He must have known the season had already been closed around here. The NW zone is closing today 1-3-13.
So if a wolf attacks your dog and you shoot it, the DNR officer gets the whole thing.
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Wow... The NW zone really got hot in the end, I wonder what happened... Trappers??? Wolf huntingLate Season Status
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| 04 Jan 2013 02:43 PM |
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That makes sense to me. I can't remember if I saw it on the news, or read it somewhere, but the DNR was pretty much counting on the success of trappers to reach the quota.
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TGJ
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| 05 Jan 2013 09:30 AM |
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I never got back out after them. My friend with the tag got busy with work and couldn't go before the middle of this month and now the season is closed. There is always next season, I HOPE. The wolf lovers/antihunter are making noise about more legal action so i guess it will be wait and see. |
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TOM IN TENNESSEE
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| 08 Jan 2013 02:23 PM |
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HEII YES!!! Whack, trap or run over! |
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