Yooper
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| 08 Jul 2012 09:53 AM |
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When I first applied for a Montana mountain goat tag some of you were not even born yet and most of you were not old enough to hunt deer, Ronald Reagan was President. I have not finalized the dates but sometime in September or early October I hope to catch my breath long enough to settle the cross hairs on a respectable goat and end my high country hunt. Presently the big game trophies in my Man Cave are limited to antlers and a moose foot thermometer from my first moose but should a goat fall to my '06 there is going to have to be a head mount, and maybe a tanned hide for the wall. Horns alone just won't do a goat justice. Now all I have to do is convince the wife something besides horns are in order. Anybody have a spare doghouse for me to live in if the Mrs. doesn't get used to it?  |
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MATT L
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| 08 Jul 2012 09:13 PM |
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Congratulations! I hope yer up to it...I know I wouldn't be. |
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mowgle
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| 09 Jul 2012 06:01 AM |
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Good luck on your hunt yooper. |
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hunterdan1
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| 12 Jul 2012 02:33 PM |
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What hd are you hunting in.I'm in Bozeman we moved from the U.P. five year ago. |
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hockeydna
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| 12 Jul 2012 05:46 PM |
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Congrats yooper, I hope you have a great time! |
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cshep
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| 12 Jul 2012 11:45 PM |
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Congratulations Yooper,
I would love to be able to go some day. I have only read about those hunts in magazines.
My wife still thinks that it a little weird how guns in my gun safe and mounts in my “Man Cave” Just seem to multiply all on their own. Why just yesterday I opened up my gun safe and my wife was walking by and saw a new gun in it. I don’t know how this happens either, and it isn’t a new gun it’s a 1970 made in Belgium, Browning Superposed 12 ga.
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cgshp49
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| 13 Jul 2012 04:07 AM |
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Congrats Yooper! Good luck and have fun! |
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Yooper
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| 13 Jul 2012 07:51 AM |
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Posted By cshep on 13 Jul 2012 12:45 AM
Congratulations Yooper, I would love to be able to go some day. I have only read about those hunts in magazines. My wife still thinks that it a little weird how guns in my gun safe and mounts in my “Man Cave” Just seem to multiply all on their own. Why just yesterday I opened up my gun safe and my wife was walking by and saw a new gun in it. I don’t know how this happens either, and it isn’t a new gun it’s a 1970 made in Belgium, Browning Superposed 12 ga.
Have you tried telling her how lucky you have been in the local gun raffles?  Concerning your first sentence about being able to go some day: I would like to pass along to everyone who reads this some sage advice I got from a fellow back in the same year I applied for my first goat tag. After scrimping a long time I booked a hunt in a wilderness area where it took almost all day to reach camp on horseback (I wanted a real adventure!). One of the guys in camp was an older gentleman from Florida who looked to be in pretty good shape but had been retired for several years. He and his recently retired buddy were going on their first guided "out west" hunt, as was I. I am going to guess there was a 35 year difference in our ages. That first evening in camp I was sitting around with Old Clint discussing various topics and probably the cost of the hunt. I do not recall exactly how it came up, but what I do vividly recall and have never forgotten was one particular statement he made. He addressed me by name and said, "You're doing the right thing. You might not be able to afford it but you can still do it. I waited until I could afford it and now I can't do it," referring to his ability to get around well in the mountains. Neither he nor his buddy got a chance at either an elk or a deer whereas I saw multiple bulls and bucks and harvested both. Moral of the story: Do what you have to do to put away the money for a hunt and get your *$$ up in the mountains while you still can! |
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Yooper
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| 13 Jul 2012 07:55 AM |
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Posted By hunterdan1 on 12 Jul 2012 03:33 PM What hd are you hunting in.I'm in Bozeman we moved from the U.P. five year ago.
I'm right in your back yard! I drew in District 314, the area bounded by Bozeman and Livingston on the north and Yellowstone Park on the south. Any good fishing in that area the first week of October? It is a long drive from the east end of the UP to Livingston and if I tag out early it might be nice to try my hand on a lake or stream before heading home. |
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hunterdan1
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| 13 Jul 2012 01:06 PM |
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That the same district I put in for.Are you going with a guide or on your owe.The river fishing is alway good out here dailey lake south of Livigston can be good for walleye and prech.We lived in Curtis we still owe our house there on the south lake. |
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Yooper
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| 14 Jul 2012 11:09 AM |
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Posted By hunterdan1 on 13 Jul 2012 02:06 PM That the same district I put in for.Are you going with a guide or on your owe.The river fishing is alway good out here dailey lake south of Livigston can be good for walleye and prech.We lived in Curtis we still owe our house there on the south lake.
For as long as I have stood in line for that goat tag combined with the seven year wait requirement to even apply for another one I want the odds stacked as heavily in my favor as possible. I'm going to spend the money and hire an outfitter. What is going on with the outfitters in your area? Believe it or not it was hard to find an outfitter willing to take my money (and I have nothing good to say about the helpfulness of FWP so I won't say anything at all!). I sent e-mails to several outfitters in the area that indicated they took goat hunters. Three got back to me with congratulatory remarks but regrets that they did not hunt that particular unit, I understand that. All but one of the rest didn't even bother to respond (where are their manners?). Fortunately, the guide that did respond was prompt, courteous, had good references, and was willing to work with me on scheduling the hunt so it would not interfere with another outing I already had a non-refundable deposit on......talk about a strain on the budget this year. Curtis is a really neat area and I am a bit familiar with it. I worked in Chippewa and Mackinac Counties for over thirty years and for almost the last decade of that was responsible for the day to day management of the state lands in those two easternmost UP counties, and for a very short time the three esternmost. |
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hunterdan1
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| 16 Jul 2012 09:15 PM |
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I don't any of the outfitter out here.I seen 18 goats last summer right above hylite I don't think it will be that hard to get on them.I pm you my phone number did you get it |
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Yooper
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| 18 Jul 2012 08:27 AM |
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Posted By hunterdan1 on 16 Jul 2012 10:15 PM I don't any of the outfitter out here.I seen 18 goats last summer right above hylite I don't think it will be that hard to get on them.I pm you my phone number did you get it
Nothing in my inbox. Try again. |
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hunterdan1
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| 19 Jul 2012 10:13 AM |
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It won't let me send a pm my e-mail is hunterdan1@lycos.com If there is any thing on this end I can help with let me know |
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WKEELER
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| 23 Jul 2012 08:30 AM |
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congrats yooper....sounds like a very busy fall fer ya this year |
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hepp
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| 06 Aug 2012 09:14 AM |
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Congrats Yooper that is like hitting the lotto good luck. |
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Yooper
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| 08 Aug 2012 06:34 AM |
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Thanks for the encouragement guys, hopefully I will be successful. If I am successful I might have to have one of you Computer Gurus instruct me in posting a pic or two.
Oh yes, after weeks of showing the Mrs. internet pictures of goats in their natural habitat along with several mounted specimens she has agreed that it would be a shame to not mount the head, so that's a done deal, but another major cost. I still have not convinced her that the best place to hang the mount would be over the headboard of our bed. For years I have been getting an emphatic "NO" whenever I suggest that spot would be a great place for a bull moose head so I figured a nice white mountain goat would surely be a fair compromise. Women..............!
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WKEELER
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| 15 Aug 2012 06:53 AM |
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everyone keeps telling me.....go ta love them |
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hunterdan1
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| 10 Sep 2012 07:01 AM |
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I hope the fires don't mess up your hunt.The fire south of Bozeman is over 10000a and the one south of Livingston is about the same but it is across the road to the east of your HD.
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Yooper
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| 11 Sep 2012 07:10 AM |
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I've been watching those fires. The outfitter is not too expressing much concern but he may be saying that to keep me from getting too worked up.
I'm a lot more reassured after checking the fire situation report this morning. The fire has not grown in the last 24 hours and the number of firefighters has been reduced by well over a hundred. The bad news is that estimated containment is November 1, but having been in fire overhead for many years I've learned that a containment date that far in the furure at this time of year is code for "it's rough country and the fire will either have to burn until it runs out of fuel or it snows."
My biggest concern right now is that with the dry weather a new lightning strike in the wrong place could change everything in the blink of an eye. |
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hunterdan1
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| 11 Sep 2012 10:40 AM |
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The millie fire south of town is in rough country so they are letting it burn.The smoke here in town is bad last nite and today.We did go up to canyon ferry lake saturday and caught five walleye and three perch.When you get out here let me know I can show you around or help if I can. 406-548-7861 this is my cell number Danny |
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Yooper
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| 28 Sep 2012 07:06 PM |
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Well guys, I leave tomorrow before sunrise and hope to make it into western Minnesota or eastern ND before stopping for the night. Judging from the long term weather forecast it appears I will need sunscreen rather than long johns. Supposed to be 80* on the day we pack into camp and than mid 70's for the next day or two. After that it is supposed to cool off ten degrees or so.
Goats will surely be high in all the heat so I guess I am in for some serious climbing if I want a decent animal. I'll let you know how it goes when I get back. |
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Yooper
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| 12 Oct 2012 09:04 AM |
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I got one! Saw over 50 goats on the first day and had 32 within 230 yards of me at one point, six of those were within 20 yards. In all of those animals we picked out only one billy and he gave us the slip when a rock rolled down the mountain during the stalk. Several nannies had respectable horns but it was too early in the hunt to tag one of them and with temps in the high 60's the hunting was too enjoyable to end it after one day.
Then came day two. The horses were saddled and ready to go but as we were leaving the cook tent after breakfast the snow hit and it snowed hard all day as the wind blew and temperatures dropped. Couldn't see more than 75 yards so we stayed in camp all day.
We woke up the third morning to five inches of snow that crunched when you walked in it. Temps were in the low single digits, maybe around zero. We could see fairly well at camp but as we climbed over a thousand feet to the hunting area we ascended into a layer of clouds that socked us in tight. We built a fire behind a small patch of trees and whenever we got a break we would glass for goats but just when we would spot some the clouds would close in again. We spent five hours standing around the fire before giving up and going back to camp. The high point of the day was when all the livestock we left at camp showed up on top of the mountain! The guide eventually rounded them up, jury-rigged some halters, and started back to camp just as the cook made an appearance very much out of breath, and wringing wet with sweat. Apparently their little electric fence was not sufficient to keep them in. After two days of non hunting I was beginning to worry a bit as to whether or not I was going to get a chance to fill my long awaited goat tag.
The fourth morning was as cold or colder than the third morning but the clouds were not as thick so we rode up the hill to the hunting area. Near the top we found lots of goat tracks in the snow but it was still a bit foggy up there. Once at the top we could not see to the east where all the goats had been the first day so we headed west where more goat areas would be closer to the horse trail. About ten minutes down the trail we popped over a small rise and there was a decent goat smack in the middle of the trail. It ran off before I could get my gun ready.
Ten minutes after that and as the fog got a bit thicker the guide pointed down the hill at half a dozen goats. These goats knew we were there but did not care much, probably because of the terrain between us and them, so I had plenty of time to get off my horse and ready myself for a sitting shot. As I did so the guide kept track of the animal with the best horns as they slowly grazed and walked along.
At the shot my goat lurched and took two steps before falling on the only patch of level ground in the area, lucky me! The other goats slowly continued along and disappeared while we were making sure my goat did not get back up. A quick check with the rangefinder showed it 103 yards away and using GPS we discovered it was almost exactly 200 feet below us.
The horses didn't even react at the shot and were still right behind us pawing for grass where we had dropped the reins.
We rode back for eight minutes, found a spot where we could drop down in elevation a bit and then rode for three minutes toward the goat before we had to abandon the horses and start out on foot. It took about 45 minutes from that point to reach the goat. The billy had dandy 8" horns with 5" bases and very thick fur.
After pictures (which I cannot figure out how to post) and field dressing we decided to slide the goat down the mountain rather than cut it up and try to get it back to the horses and mule. After sliding fifteen hundred feet down the hill on my rear end (most fun I have had in the snow in 45 years) we got to a level spot the horses could reach so we built another fire and the guide headed out to get the horses. My rifle was on my horse so the guide left his "hog leg" in case a griz found the trail where we slid the goat and decided to follow it. I told the guide I had no intention of arguing with a griz over a goat but he joked (I hope) that I needed to put up some resistance! An hour and a half later the guide showed up with the horses and we loaded up and headed for camp without incident.
The next morning we rode the ten miles back to the trail head, checked the goat in, and headed home. It was a great hunt, nothing at all like any elk, moose or deer hunt I have ever been on. It was my hunt of a lifetime.
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MATT L
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| 12 Oct 2012 11:52 AM |
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Well it sounds like you had a blast, congratulations. Can't wait to see the pictures...all down hill from here eh? |
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hockeydna
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| 13 Oct 2012 06:48 AM |
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Great job, congrats! A hunt I'm sure you'll never forget! |
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WKEELER
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| 24 Oct 2012 10:58 AM |
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nice going yooper and it was a great story.... |
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