i need to find a more firearm friendly place to live , these new laws they have made are a f in joke and realy arnt a
solution to the problem

Texas has put out some adds in New York State , welcomeing you to move to there and they are saying out loud in thier adds to BRING YOUR GUNS with you.
So hows that New York stuff you laws where the sun don't shine . Oh maybe thats NYC.

Pa. is still close if family ties dictate you stay close to NY and we have pretty decent gun laws here. Shall issue on the License to Carry Firearms ($20/5yrs) no purchase permits, no waiting periods, open carry is legal, long gun sales can go face to face. Handgun sales have to go through a dealer (except for a few family transfers). No restrictions on purchases. Big downer is that semi-auto rifles are NOT legal for hunting.

Check out the Pa. Firearms Owners Association Website (pafoa.org) for more information.

Dale

I have always known just how lucky I was to be born in the great state of Gerogia but did not know exactly how lucky ! I can't even imagine having to live and abide by some of the laws in the different states that have been shown here. I grewup on a 110 acre farm and was under the impression that eveybody enjoyed the same quality of life when it came to guns and their ownership and everybody had them. I was exposed and introduced to guns at a very early age so I only thought that everybody had done the same. I learned to shoot at the age of 8 yo and got my own .22 rifle at the age of 11 yo and learned even more and better ways to shoot. I would save my money I earned by working for others and buy the big bricks of ammo that I myself went into the Hardware store and bought and picked up myself. I just can't imagine having to be so smothered by the laws that some of you have to deal with.

Actually, good point... when the wife joins me in retirement we're bailing outta this giveaway, liberal sh*thole (read as NYS) Probably to Virginia or N. Carolina but I need to check out the gun and hunting regs there.

Plenty of you all snow birds have been coming down. I guess a couple more won't hurt too bad. Just bring plenty of ammo. We might have to defend ourselves one day. My wife likes the fact that at least we'll have meat to put on the table. I told her to start storing salt and pepper and I'll grill with oak.

oh ammo and shotguns and rifles are no problem man... Gotta get the h*77 outta here though - just a matter of to where.

We can work out some "work detail", since you are not as old as I am(or we'll have to split the work). To put you up on some land.

I could do that man! I ain't adverse to work - makes you sleep real well! What's y'all got in mind? ;-)

its realy sad ive lived in NY my whole life all my family is here and i am pretty dead set on gettin wile the gettins good. i live up state, no one even locks there house here but b/c of bad eggs in the city were all treated like criminals...............Texas does sound good !

Just don't bring them bad eggs with ya.

donno... I spent a week in Austin on March for work. Too big of a city for me but nice. Thing that got me was it was 95 degrees an 95 degrees... in freekin' MARCH. Maybe away from the coast isn't quite as bad. Kind of why we're thinking Va or NC (not the mountains) Still get the 4 seasons but milder winters (excluding the past two) and lower taxes.

Man Zach... when you say upstate - you MEAN upstate! lol But I agree to everyone - "I'm from NY" = New York City a**holes. So far from the facts. But what's ya gonna do... can't change peoples overall perceptions, just how they view you and me. When people ask me where I'm from I tell them that I live in NY, I'm FROM Pa.

Oh come on now Steve, NY isn't that bad of a state, with the exception of the politics? I live in beautiful farmland with near-by towns I feel comfortable to walk in and shop. I have everything I need within 50 miles. Plenty of public land if you can't find any private, which is getting harder and harder to find and I can't say as I blame the folks. Heck, right before hunting season when I walk into my local gunshop where I pretty much know everyone, I feel like I'm from a foriegn country and can't understand most of the language being spoke. I have some wonderful friends from below the hudson that I would trust with my life, but some of these folks just scare me! The sad part, I work for the state that is wanting to cut me off at the ankles. It's beautiful up here, but it may be time to relocate. It's just hard pulling up roots (family) that we have planted for many years.

Zach, where you from? I'm not sure where Russell is?  I'm from Norwich, in between Binghamton and Syracuse.

oh - not badmouthing the area - actually that we love - it's the a-holes running the state that have it all f'ed up! Brutal taxes and idiotic laws = time to gtfo... ;-)

Russell is in St. Lawrence county little south of canton bout 45 min from canada. i love liveing in NY well etleast i did till all this BS . only 2 things piss me off about NY 1 is this gun control crap that effects everyone in the country wen its mainly the violance in the city thats the problem and the second is wen you tell someone that your from upstate NY there like o your from Syracuse...........wich is in central NY not up state its like nothing above the "CUSE" exists

i couldnt agree more Steve, its not the state its the idiots running it.

Thats what I meant when I mentioned the "politics" (idiots) guys.
Zach, no one ever understands anything other than we live on the upper side of the hudson. That clears all confusion of whether we are city folk or not. Guess you will just have to deal with it?

I don't care what town, city, or state anyone lives in, there will always be idiots involved in the governing process, because intelligent folks aren't interested in spending the money or kissing the azz, to run for political office......even if it's just a one horse town council seat. There is something about politics that can turn the nicest, friendliest, most lucid individual into a frothing at the mouth, brain dead zombie mudder fugger! Unfortunately it just appears that there are a few of those blue states up North along with California, where the liberal, brain dead blue dogs have completely taken control of the asylum. That makes it easy to understand why the Southern states continue to experience the most growth........and why our winters are getting colder! All those snow birds have brought the weather with 'em!!!!!!!!!!!

Well I have to wait to get rid of CA for a little bit longer .All though I dont spend much time there .I wont Missouri as all of my hunting would be free .But the wife wants OK .As long as my mom is still alive I will have to keep going back .

I just want to know from you NY when me and Holly come your way .And if we get arrested for our guns will you bail us out .Don't go any where with out them .

Yeah, gotta agree with ya Rthomas. But why is that??? Guess it's the old adage about "absolute power corrupts absolutly..." Just a little common sense from our "leaders" and we'd all be better off....Well, Obama's gonna try & do the rest of the Nation like Cuomo did us in NY....I've already sent out my letters to my senators, not that will do any bit of good.....Schumer/Gillibrand....both anti-gun, opposing new bans/registartions, etc...

Yeah, I've always said that you could take the most honest person, put them into political office and within 6 months they'd be corrupt.

Hey Ron, how much colder are the winters down there now? Probably getting all the way down in the 70's I'll bet... ;-)

Steve do your research and take a look at our laws in here in Georgia.

Steve you could go to CA .OH thats right and they don't use Vaseline either .LOL.

Looking now Dawg but have about 5 years to research. I haven't looked into Ga, but initial "perception" is that it'd be too hot and humid.

Yeah it does get hot and humid but we have some of the best if not the best gun laws and our hunting is second to none when it comes to being hunter friendly. So just make sure your new place has a great A/C and plenty of whatever you use for wiping your sweat off yourn head. We have the Hunter's rights concerning hunting and fishing written into our state's Constitution and we have plenty of ranges both outside and indoors for shooting. We also have gun shows on a regualr basis and if you get a CCW then buying a firearm is as simple as walking int the store and making your choice and then showing your CCW permit and pay for and walk out the door with the your new firearms. I was blessed to tbe bred, born and raised here and have posted that I cannot imagine having to live like some where like some of the folks here where it is so regulated when it comes to firearms, ammo, and the buying of the same. Be sure and checkout http://www.gohuntgeorgia.com and take a look at our Great hunting fishing regs !

Steve, it was 40 this morning when I got up, and it's supposed to be 30 or below tomorrow morning. Yesterday's high was 68, but today's isn't expected to get over 53. Usually our coldest winter temps might drop down into the mid teens, but that's only a rare occurrence. Winter highs usually top out in the mid to upper 50's, unless we get some type of front that affects the temps. Summers are a different story, with overnight lows in the high 70's and low 80's, with daytime highs in the upper 90's and even triple digits. As you noted, it's not the heat, it's the humidity that really gets people. But thankfully, those little white flakes are a very seldom seen oddity, and that suits me fine!!!!!!! Our perfect times of the year are our spring and fall, when overnight lows dip into the mid 50's and day time highs max out in the low 70's. That's when no heat or A/C is needed to stay comfortable.

yeah, no clue right now where we'll land but probably Va or NC. My wife has a custom jewelery business on the side and she knows ladies in those areas who do it also. So it'd be good for one of us to know a few folks anyhow.

Dear Glen,

Thank you for contacting me regarding the rights of gun owners.

As you may know, I am a strong defender of our Second Amendment rights. The right of law-abiding citizens to own firearms is an individual right guaranteed by the Second Amendment of the Constitution and broadly interpreted by the U.S. Supreme Court. Our Founders clearly understood that one of the most basic rights of Americans is the ability to defend themselves and their families.

In light of the terrible tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Connecticut, there have been calls for immediate action to address gun control. I do believe it is important that we have a serious national discussion about preventing these senseless acts of violence and protecting our children in their schools. Equally important, however, is an effort that more broadly addresses ways to spend federal dollars more wisely when it comes to treating and identifying those who are mentally ill as well as intervening before they tragically impact their own lives and the lives of others.

There are no easy answers here. I continue to believe that a weapons ban does not fix the issue. Whatever we do, it must be consistent with the Constitution.

I appreciate your thoughts and will continue to support legislation that safeguards our Second Amendment rights, encourages safe and responsible gun ownership, and keeps our homes and families safe.

Again, thank you for contacting me. I look forward to continuing our conversation on Facebook (www.facebook.com/SenatorBlunt) and Twitter (www.twitter.com/RoyBlunt) about the important issues facing Missouri and the country. I also encourage you to visit my website (blunt.senate.gov) to learn more about where I stand on the issues and sign-up for my e-newsletter.

Sincere regards,

Roy Blunt
United States Senator

I now its a form letter but i did get a response so if your looking Missouri is a great state a conservative state not a liberal state and we have outstanding Hunting and fishing lots of public land all the gun companies and ammo companies or sporting goods manufacturing companies should uproot and move form these unfriendly liberal states to states that will not turn their backs on them New York is a crap hole I know upstate NY is beautiful but I will not go there and spend my hard earned money there or any state that is not a friend to gun owners if I go on vacation I will only go to gun friendly states

Come to Indiana.

Yeah, but Allen, you also have cold weather and that nasty white sh*t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Very true Ron, but if I were to move ANYWHERE, other than home to pa of course, that had cold and white chit - that'd be where I'd head. Freekin' place is gorgeous. And we didn't even START to see the place.

Nope, headed in your direction.

Very true Ron, but if I were to move ANYWHERE, other than home to pa of course, that had cold and white chit - that'd be where I'd head. Freekin' place is gorgeous. And we didn't even START to see the place.

Nope, headed in your direction.

ahoffman were you from .

Think far north of you Joe. ;-)

Like Alaska

ding-ding-ding We have a winner - give that man a cupie doll! ;-)

Steve did you checkout our hunting site ? We have a very liberal bag limit on game. It would also seem that if your wife has her business she would want to be where she doesn't have any competition as she will with the other lady's mentioned. Just imagine 12 deer per season with 2 being bucks and the other 10 does. We also now have a alligator season and it is the only one with a lottery system for permits. But then again after doing some thinking it might be better for you to go to NC/SC as we already have plenty of Northen retirees here.

I did and looks REALLY nice - just too hot. Her jewelery really isn't a business, more of a hobby that pays for itself and her trips. There are a group of about 13 or so women across the country who get together once in a while to teach each other stuff. I hear what you're saying but.... ;-)

Just think it'd be too hot for us. But, when I take off in the Vette this summer, god only knows where I'll end up.

NY DOES NOT SUCK!!!! NY GOVERNMENT SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love the hunting, fishing, and trapping here. I love the people in my town. I love the scenery esp The Falls and the Gorge. Nuke Albany and we'd be a great state. The State Motto is "Ever Upward." Who would have thought they were talking about taxes!!!!!!!!!! Get rid of the politicians and their stupid ideas about guns etc. and things could be great here.

point well taken gut... I love the state - just not the aholes the city aholes keep electing an screwing things up even more. No signs of change. Have to get to a "red" state.

New York is beautiful. But your politicians are like cockroaches and you will never get rid of them.

the funny part is there arnt to many guns that take 7 round clips and it aint gunna solve nothin anyway ciminals will still be criminals . i have a bolt action .270 with 4 , 4 round clips and i bet i could rack them off and reload fast enough the wouldnt be able to tell that from a semi auto . on gun is just as deadly as another in the hands of someone looking to do damage and wrongdoing

Exactly zgrimshaw. Not only that but do they reallly expect people who have say a 10 shot clip for their .22 to get rid of it? An they are the "honest" people. You KNOW the criminals are just got to immediately get rid of their illegal items...

Did you see they finally figured out they screwed up and have to ammend the law. So cops on and off duty can carry guns with more than seven rounds in the clip.

I seriously doubt that any of you have guns that use "clips" unless you have a Garand. I believe y'all mean magazines! Please, don't promote the anti-rhetoric with improper terminology and misinformation!!!!!!!!! (I'm sorry that's one of my biggest pet peeves, along with the term "assault weapons")

Dawg, SC also has a lottery for 'gator permits. There is a $10.00 non-refundable application fee, and if you get drawn, then the tag will cost an additional $100.00. The problem is that the 'gators can only be taken by archery tackle, harpoon, or snagging them with a hook. Once they have been controlled, then a bang stick or rimfire cartridge may be used to kill 'em before putting them in the boat.

Alaska is a dream to me. For as long as I can remember visiting Alaska was on my bucket list. Well, I finally got a job along with wife's salary and mine we were able to squirrel away extra money and we were able to go on vacation there. My wife has a cousin that lives in Eagle River she hadn't seen in 20yrs. So we made arrangements to go stay with them. It was the begining of a love affair. I'd always drempt going fishing for halibut. Well, we've taken five vacations to AK. We've fished halibut and Silvers. Been to Denali and Fairbanks and a lot of places in between. Fished halibut out of Homer and Whittier (truly sheiter). I always hoped I'd get a BIG one. And out on Prince William sound I got her 205 lbs that day we also put two fifty pounders and two nintylbsers and two more that were 150+. Couldn't get the 35' boat on plane with all that weight in the back.

Alas I had a bad motorcycle wreck and now all I have is SSD and my Veterans Service Connected Disability. So it looks like our days of going back are over. I'd move there in a heartbeat but like I said our finances won't allow us to follow that final dream. I would love to pack up and move to Seward. I did get a pretty good chunk of $$$$ from my mother's estate and I'm on the fence about a week in Seward. I think even with the damage to my body I could manage fishing halibut and silvers. But could a charter handle me with my crippled body.

Alaska is one of God's GREAT Cathedrals.

rthomas4 i do have a gun with a clip its a 7.62X39 sks and it takes 10 round stripper clips , and a m1 garand wich has a 8 round bandalear. not to mention a couple of old 22's with 15 round tube feed
a mini 30 and a semi auto ak so i basicaly got bent over by the state and they didnt even use any lube

and look at the old sattle guns witch are popular in Ny, there tube fed mags but most hold etleast 8 rounds and some that are smaller rounds like the 44 mag hold even more. i dont have or know anyone who has a 7 round mag pistol , my family are big into Glock and Barretta and there all 10 rounders. to sum it up they made criminals out of anyone that owns a gun

so you may have nothing more than a traffic ticket , and give a helping hand to anyone who needs it but if you get cought with more than 7 rounds in a mag its a class d felony! might as well slap the cuffs on now

It only applies to semi's right? What about pumps that are tube fed?

Get the hell out of the state of NY Owners, manufacturers, come to more gun friendly states when it comes down to it who cares how hot it gets or if it snows their . If all the gun manufacturers would shut down and move their job the to conservative states what would the Liberal states do then we are talking thousands of jobs. Liberals are like herpes once you get them there's no getting rid of them and they don't use logic in their thinking or decision making

How gives a chit what it covers none of it would have saved one child at sandy hook the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun Blue states can blow me

GLW if that pump has a thumb hole stock, it's considered an "assault weapon" under the new laws, because that is considered a "military feature".

Zach, those clips you mentioned feed the rounds into a magazine, though. They don't feed the ammo into the breech! Big difference, right!?!?!?!?

so if I lived in NY all my semi-auto shotguns are now assault-weapons my sweet-sixteen , SBEII, my Beretta urika

Posted By rthomas4 on 25 Jan 2013 09:09 AM
GLW if that pump has a thumb hole stock, it's considered an "assault weapon" under the new laws, because that is considered a "military feature".

Not according to the NYS FAQ that I posted earlier Ron. It would have to be a semi...

http://www.governor.ny.gov/assets/d...atures.pdf

Steve, did you notice that the picture with the thumb hole stock is actually a pump shotgun? The original new rules that I read were on a site on fb, and it didn't differentiate between pump or semi-auto, nor between rifle and shotgun. Apparently there are some major points of confusion within the interpretations of the NY law. Everything I've seen and read about Feinstein's bill; however, eliminates any differences regardless of pump or semi-auto and regardless of rifle caliber, including .22's unless they are tube fed. as far as capacities. BTW, I'm not sure how many are aware of this, but there is a 50 round drum magazine available for a standard Mossberg 500, Remington 870, and Winchester models 1200 and 1300 pump shotguns. I believe it's manufactured by Tapco.

yeah, but I read the text - Semi automatic AND the following banned features.

I just thought it was funny that the picture didn't match the text!  More proof that they don't know what the fugg they're talking about!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Be afraid be very very afraid

no Ron, they're just f'ing idiots who make laws about anything, weather they know anything about the actual facts or not. Simply standard NYS liberal idiots at work...

"Liberals With Guns!" check it out on youtube

Posted By rthomas4 on 25 Jan 2013 09:11 AM
Zach, those clips you mentioned feed the rounds into a magazine, though. They don't feed the ammo into the breech! Big difference, right!?!?!?!?

i hear what your sayin but its still a clip you said you dout any of us had guns with clips ... last i checked a stripper clip classified as a clip becuase it clips the ammo for fast reload into the mag. just sayin

Posted By healey on 25 Jan 2013 09:34 AM
Be afraid be very very afraid

i couldnt agree more .........my only ? is whats next?

Posted By gutpile on 24 Jan 2013 07:30 AM
Did you see they finally figured out they screwed up and have to ammend the law. So cops on and off duty can carry guns with more than seven rounds in the clip.

ya i saw that but whats good for the goose is good for the gander i guess my friend works for loomis and he said he is still rocken 10 in the mag he dont care cuase its his life on the line.

What is the penalty for a class E felony? I ask because I read that it is a class E felony for carrying an unloaded gun while carrying an unloaded gun while drug trafficking you get 3 1/2 yrs. I wouldn't be surprised if you were given a stiffer penalty for a class E felony.

whats next is the body scanners they are putting on the streets of NYC

Have you guys seen this



Do you have a gun in your House?
When I had my gangrene gallbladder taken out and spent 10 days in the hospital for what should have been an overnight stay the insurance company kicked me out. I had home nurse visits for two weeks and was asked if I had guns in the house. I respond that if I did I would not tell them. So the below has some merit.
FYI, I am passing this along...there are comments from two other people that have also been asked if they keep guns in the house.
The nurse just kind of slipped it in along with all the other regular questions. I told her I refused to answer because it was against the law to ask.
Everyone, whether you have guns or not, should give a neutral answer so they have no idea who does and who doesn't. My doctor asked me if I had guns in my house and also if any were loaded. I, of course, answered yes to both questions. Then he asked why I kept a loaded gun close to my bed. I answered that my son, who is a certified gun instructor and also works for Homeland Security, advised me that an unloaded, locked up gun is no protection against criminal attack.
The Government now requires these questions be asked of people on Medicare, and probably everyone else.
Just passing this along for your information:
I had to visit a doctor other than my regular doctor when my doctor was on vacation. One of the questions on the form I had to fill out was: Do you have any guns in your house?
My answer was None of your business!!
So it is out there! It is either an insurance issue or government intervention. Either way, it is out there and the second the government gets into your medical records (as they want to under Obamacare) it will become a major issue and will ultimately result in lock and load!!
Please pass this on to all the other retired guys and gun owners...
Thanks, from a Vietnam Vet and retired Police Officer: I had a doctors appointment at the local VA clinic yesterday and found out something very interesting that I would like to pass along. While going through triage before seeing the doctor, I was asked at the end of the exam, three questions:
1. Did I feel stressed?
2. Did I feel threatened?
3. Did I feel like doing harm to someone?
The nurse then informed me, that if I had answered yes to any of the questions, I would have lost my concealed carry permit as it would have gone into my medical records and the VA would have reported it to Homeland Security.
Looks like they are going after the vets first. Other gun people like retired law enforcement will probably be next. Then when they go after the civilians, what argument will they have?
Be forewarned and be aware. The Obama administration has gone on record as considering veterans and gun owners potential terrorists.
Whether you are a gun owner, veteran or not, YOU"VE BEEN WARNED !
If you know veterans and gun owners, please pass this on to them. Be very cautious about what you say and to whom.

I've seen this before but it needs to be seen again this girl gets it

IF you are a sensible person ---- you will view this video ONCE, perhaps TWICE, and if you truly care about
yourself, your family, and your country --- you will view this video more times -- and give it SERIOUS THOUGHT.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

She is absolutely right.



Here is an excellent video of a victim of gun violence testifying before a congressional committee.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lew...28878.html

Zach, that was my point. A stripper clip load the ammo into a magazine......thus the term "clip" is inappropriate, especially when used in conjunction with the term "high capacity". As I figured many folks probably own an M1 or similar type of rifle that utilizes a stripper clip for loading the magazine, but not a "clip" that functions as the ammo feeder for the action of the firearm.

Healy the VA has been asking those questions for a few years now .Just waiting for them to start asking about guns and I will give them the same answer .NO.

What about the ammo restrictions! You can't order online without going through an FFL. And if if you do find a good deal on something you use, and try to stock up, they'll notify the state cops or the ATF. BS! A 20 round box of Hornady's is going to wind up costing you $75 after you pay your local guy his transfer and background check fees. Forget about buying a brick of 22's, you'll be on some sought of list. That's if ya can find a company to ship to NY. At this point no one even wants your buisness. But "OOOHHH NOOOO, we don't want to effect any hunters". All I gotta say is other states beware.

mellisa4 join CA .We are waiting to see if the new law will get passed .You will be required to pay 50.00 for a permit to buy ammo .

So not only NY but CA sucks also full of fruits nut and liberals

I guess I will have to start buying my ammo on the road .

Send me some $ and a list of what you want. I'll start picking it up for you and you can pick up your ammo(with receipts) the next time you guys come around. Might make you come back again sooner.

Might take ya up on that t1. Ya know, I grew up a proud New Yorker in an outer borough of NYC. I've enjoyed hunting and camping in beautiful Upstate New York my entire life. I've always respected other areas and traditions upstate, and considered it a privilage to spend time there with my family and friends. I always said if I hit the big jackpot, my first ranch, and base of operations, would be somewhere in upstate NY. Even recently, I considered dealing with the riff-raff, the cost of living, and the rediculous restrictions down in the city worth it, as long as I got to spend some time upstate. But this latest slew of laws has really got me down. I mean if they can deny you your constitutional rights, what else are they willing to do? It's a sad thing but I pretty much lost interest in the whole area. If it wasn't for my ole lady and our families, I'd be gone tomorrow. The sad part for NY is that she'll lose a real loyal citizen.

Losing a LOT of people who love the area but can't stand the liberal a-holes that the City keeps electing, the taxes are totally out of control and now the laws. My main mission this summer according to my wife is for me to find places we may want to relocate to when she retires.

melissa4: I was addressing Holly, he has been here to my place before. But I will be more than happy to be able to help you, and any other member too. As long as thing don't change drastically here.

Back ground checks for ammo, my local Gander Mountain store can't do a back ground check for a firearm in less than 7 days how will they be able to handle checks on a box of .22 ammo. Thank You for Vermont it's only 30 mins away

Thanks t1. I didn't mean to intrude, I was soughta making a general statement. A few years back, along with my family, we purchased a home near the water in SC. I've yet to spend time there but I think I'm going to make a point of it and look at a few places in the western part of the state. My folks spend a lot of time there and love the people, the area, and the economy. My main concern would be to find an area that won't be encroached upon in the next ten or twenty years.

Melissa4, there aren't many places in SC left that aren't being rapidly encroached upon. We appear headed in the same direction as Florida, where the natives will be outnumbered by the transplants. BTW, you stated you own a home on the water down here. Might I inquire as to where it's located? I'm just wondering if it's near my part of the state.

its a nation wide panic its ammo guns reloading equipment and components its all things AR its all things firearms related happened the first time Oshame-a got in this time its worse than last time I was in bass pro the other day and they only had about 10 handguns in the case was told by a friend they they are holding them back waiting for price increases now I don't know if this is true but I would not put it past them. been to all the gun show in my area 4 of them to be exact and it is unbelievable what is going on price gouging is running rapid and the crowds it really something to see went to one show and they had 6,500 pay 10 buck apiece to get in a lot of people getting rich off us law abiding folks

rt4 I have a house in Surfside Beach, a hair south of Myrtle and a two minute drive to the boardwalk. My folks are down there now as they go back and forth to Columbia where my sister just purchased a home. I know what you mean when you mention the same direction as Florida, but west of 95 I might be able to get in a few good years. Maybe not compared to what you're used to, but a heck of a lot better than where I'm at now.

I live about 15 miles Southwest of I-95 in one direction and about 18 miles West in another. I don't even know most of the people in this small town, and I grew up here. There are more transplanted yankees here than native white people. Of course in our case all of us are outnumbered 9-1 by blacks, and even a huge percentage of them are from either NJ or Detroit!!!!!!!!!!! The good part about my area is we are in the best game zone (at least for now) in the state, as far as limits, baiting, and running hounds are concerned. BTW, I've actually only been to Myrtle Beach, twice and both times I stayed in Surfside Beach. I keep wanting to go up there and visit the BassPro Shop. I heard their restaurant is pretty good, but then there are a lot of good restaurants in the area. Next time you're down, you should get in touch. We could meet in Charleston, which is about 1/2 way between MB and Hampton, for a meet and greet.

Much obliged for the invite Mr rt4. Hopefully we'll meet in person one day. I would be interested in moving to small town USA but I would not want to be surrounded by canadians from NJ, Detroit, or even NY for that matter. I would appreciate your opinion on some of the better hunting areas of the state as I am googling areas blindly online. My sister has experienced the yankee influx in Columbia, but believe it or not, in Surfside Beach there seems to be more of a local atmosphere with dabs of transplants like my folks here and there. The transplants are from NY and Cincinnati but they are the ones that seem to appreciate and respect the tone of life in the area. I also wouldn't want to relocate from NY and wind up living next to "my cousin vinny".

Go to the SCDNR site and research the game zones. I live in game zone six, which is the coastal low country area, which encompasses Berkely, Charleston, Dorchester, Calhoun, Orangeburg, Bamberg, Colleton, Beaufort, Hampton, Allendale, and Barnwell counties. I believe your house is located in Georgetown county, which is in game zone 5 and also includes Williamsburg, Clarendon,Sumter, Lee, and Darlington counties. These are the two game zones with the longest seasons in the state, and the best bag limits. Clarendon, Orangeburg, and Colleton have some of the highest deer per acre in the state, with Hampton and Allendale close on their heels. There is still enough available farm land and timber real estate available in these areas that any interested individual should be able to live a fairly secluded existence if that's what they prefer. As a matter of fact, for a small fee of about 2.5 million I happen to know of nice little plantation right here in Hampton county that's for sale. I believe it's a little over 10,000 acres and is prime deer and turkey, as well as dove, and duck habitat.

I live in New York,we need to put all these gun ban politicians on the unemployment line come the next election cycle.

should have done it last election cycle

anti New York safe act rally in Albany Feb. 28 10:30am - 12:30 pm!

i wont be voteing for the govener next time around............and im sure there are plenty of p oed gun owners thinking the same.

its just to bad we are out-numbered by the Liberals they are like herpes once you get them can't get rid of them they breed like cockroaches

We are slowly but surely being over run with folks from up North and believe it or not Florida as well. I live about 12-14 miles from the town I grewup in and very rarely go there anymore because it is now so big and I don't ever see anybody I grewup with. The total population when I was a kid was around 1500 that lived within the city limits and now the city is so big that there is no county area in between the other towns anymore. Back then I either knew you or were related to you. I remember when everybody always talked about moving to a bigger town then but now it is the big town. The reason .22 ammo is so hard to find is that more peo-ple own .22's than other calibers. In another few years I will have my home paid off and then I will be looking to move further north here to the foothills of the Blue Ridge Mountains.