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Obama's Gun Comments: Pandering Or Posturing?

By: J.R. Absher

Oct 23

Many pro-gun pundits and spokespersons for hunting and firearms organizations hollered a collective “I told you so!” last week when President Barack Obama said during his debate with Gov. Mitt Romney that he supported a renewed ban on the sale of certain rifles that are often mischaracterized by the general media as “assault weapons.”

When asked what his administration plans to do “to limit the availability of assault weapons,” the President turned to a time-worn and misleading assessment that “weapons that were designed for soldiers in war theaters don’t belong on our streets.”

Such a comparison is disingenuous — because throughout American history, hunters and sportsmen have turned to modern and preferred firearms of the day for both hunting and personal protection, from flintlocks to carbines, and bolt actions to today’s AR-platform rifles.

“… what I’m trying to do is to get a broader conversation about how do we reduce the violence generally,” the President said.“Part of it is seeing if we can get an assault weapons ban reintroduced. But part of it is also looking at other sources of the violence. Because frankly, in my hometown of Chicago, there’s an awful lot of violence and they’re not using AK-47s. They’re using cheap handguns.”

With his comments on Oct. 16, was the President merely pandering for votes from those who support a return to the Clinton-era firearms restrictions, or was he actually posturing for a second term full of new anti-gun laws?

Frankly, it shouldn’t matter. At least, not as much as something else does.

Sportsmen and champions of the Second Amendment should be more concerned with what might occur within the judicial branch of government in the next 4 years than whether the President wants to see another assault weapons ban.

In his first term, President Obama named two U.S. Supreme Court Judges, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan. Both are widely considered as liberal leaning (translation: firearms restrictive) in their judicial philosophies, but because they replaced judges with long records of similar judicial tendencies, the essential dynamics of the court was unchanged by their appointments.

Many political observers believe the next one- or two-term president could potentially be called upon to appoint from one to three new justices to the U.S. Supreme Court.

Remember the Court’s 5-to-4 decision in District of Columbia v. Heller in 2008, which for the first time held that the Second Amendment protects an individual’s right to own firearms?

Early and absentee voting is already taking place in many states across the country. The constant bombardment of rhetoric will soon be over and it will be time to go to the polls and to exercise your right to vote.

See you there!

What are your thoughts about the President's
comments regarding "assault weapons"?

 

38 comments

# DNEVALAINEN
Tuesday, October 23, 2012 4:03 PM
Oh my! Here we go again. Big government is going to take our guns away. Talk about a bunch of sissies.
# DSpeicher
Tuesday, October 23, 2012 4:22 PM
“… what I’m trying to do is to get a broader conversation about how do we reduce the violence generally,” the President said.“
Protect the rights of Americans by allowing concealed carry to any citizen in ALL states (other than criminals of course). Give free training for those that are considering CCW. Once the criminals know all Americans are protecting themselves violence should decrease and historically has decreased.
Take NY for instance. Many years ago (mid '90's I beleive) NY authorized people to protect their property including vehicles. Not long after this law was passed, auto theft decreased dramatically.
It does not take a scientist to figure this out.
# mwaite3
Tuesday, October 23, 2012 6:02 PM
AMEN! If a robber knew the people around him all could or do have guns do you think he would still try a robbery. If a kidnapper knew he would get shot for snagging a kid would he still do it. I think most of them would not take the chance. I believe in the right to carry and i don't think it needs to be concealed let the criminals know what they are getting into.
# npaul
Tuesday, October 23, 2012 7:13 PM
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
The problem is not that the government wants to take our guns, its why. They say that it is for our “safety” but it is not our safety that they are concerned with. If our safety was a concern than we would have a stronger Southern border, but we have seen that keeping Americans safe is not top priority.
The Government wants our guns because to control a person you must first take away the ability of that person to resist you… You disarm them. It is why every dictator in History has made disarming the citizen number one on the “to-do” list.
The Second Amendment is not just my right to defend my life; it is my responsibility and opportunity to defend my freedom. Regulating what type of gun or how many you can own or when you can carry is all infringement. And lest we forget, when the Second Amendment was written, everyone owned an assault weapon. What do you think they fought the British with, sling-shots?
# brichter
Wednesday, October 24, 2012 5:47 AM
To DNEVALAINEN:
Interesting comment - "Talk about a bunch of sissies". If you do not believe guns can be taken away from US citizens, you need to look at history. How did Nazi-Germany take-over its citizens? Gun registration, then confiscation. Britain did that, Australia did that; Canada tried it and now is reversing it under a conservative party. It only takes a government that does not believe the Second Amendment is for it citizens.
# VOLTZ
Wednesday, October 24, 2012 6:33 AM
Why is it that they codle criminals and worry about their rights, but think that it's OK to take away ours? The big government crowd is worried about the people having a way to stop them from running our lives. As said before, the first thing a dictator does is disarm the population. We will not let that happen.
# alsea
Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:02 AM
mwaite3 my sentiments exactly!
# cbrandon
Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:37 AM
DNEVALAINEN
Call me a sissie isn't the first time someone made that mistake! Maybe you should read and understand the second ammendment, then maybe you could grasp the true purpose for the document; won't catch me looking the other way with eyes wide shut!
# Capt.Kirk
Wednesday, October 24, 2012 12:27 PM
I am surprised that this article and subsequent comments do not mention the potential of the Senate and the President signing the U.N. Small Arms Treaty in a lame duck session. This would circumvent our constitution all together! Perhaps, We The People haven't been informed of this treaty and other U.N. schemes that attempt to take away our rights and sovereignty.
# GTbrewer
Wednesday, October 24, 2012 1:19 PM
obama and the liberal senate might sign that treaty....
However, if I remember correctly, it still takes a
2/3 majority to change the Constitution and/or the
Bill of Rights. I don't see that happening, so the
treaty would basically be powerless to change the 2nd
Ammendment.
# estoker
Wednesday, October 24, 2012 1:26 PM
#GTbrewer...this administration has shown they are not above bypassing the legislative process and using executive orders to put the agenda into action. They have no regard for Constitutional limits. Look at their record.
# GTbrewer
Wednesday, October 24, 2012 1:33 PM
Yes, I know...but that doesn't make it a legal change to
the Constitution...at least, not according to what I
learned in school.
# dluster
Wednesday, October 24, 2012 2:00 PM
Obama has written and passed his own laws (Dream Act). He's pushing Cap and Trade using the EPA. On his own he's reformed the Welfare Reform Act and refused to enforce Don't Ask Don't Tell and The Defense of Marriage Act. To make a long story short: Obama has acted extra-Costitutionally every time he can get away with it. The above are just the tip of the iceberg of proofs that he is willing to implement his agenda with or without the consent of the governed. He states he desires a return to the "Assault" Weapons Ban and insinuates that "cheap handguns" are responsible for most of Chicago's murders. He's lobbied for the UN Small Arms Treaty. The four lefty members of the Supreme Court, including two justices he's appointed, have stated unequivically their belief that people do not have the right to use firearms for self-defense. He's a dangerous collectivist that needs to be shown the door.
# GTbrewer
Wednesday, October 24, 2012 2:24 PM
The Supreme Court is a risk---I'll grant that. But there are
a few things to consider about the 2nd Ammendment. First,
changing that without the consent of the People would be a
MAJOR issue that I do not believe would be allowed to survive.
First consider those who have sworn an oath to protect the US
Constitution and the Bill of Rights from ALL enemies, foreign and domestic. Second, consider what such a
change would do to Alaska, where hunting is not only a
way of life, it's the way for getting meat onto the
table. Finally, such a change might even be the last
straw for Texas, which might even vote to go back to
being The Republic Of Texas. I have family in Texas,
and would be moving back there in a
heartbeat if that happened......

Oh, and one more point.... I strongly doubt that obama
will get re-elected, especially after this week's debate
(that, I believe, was the last nail for his hopes of a
second term). So even if he did change anything as a
lame duck, Romney would just undo it all in January. I
can't say that's 100% certain, of course, but still....

Either way, I seriously doubt that he'd get away with
changing the 2nd Ammendment on his own. I can imagine
all kinds of bad things happening if he tried. At least
one of those, I've heard mentioned by someone else, so
I might not be crazy for thinking it'd happen, but I'm
still not going to mention it....
# Bellicose
Wednesday, October 24, 2012 3:19 PM
Criminals get weapons illegally. Upstanding citizen follows the rules. How much sense does it make to take personal safety from the law abiders while the felons still and will always have the means to acquire their tools for violence.... Ignorant hippies.
# GTbrewer
Wednesday, October 24, 2012 3:43 PM
Ok, something happened to that response......

It only makes sense to morons (or those who, not including
legitimate business loans/investments, think you can get
out of debt by borrowing and spending more money)......
# walkin
Thursday, October 25, 2012 6:14 AM
Just remember vote for freedom Nov.6 that about covers it all in a nut shell...........
# GTbrewer
Thursday, October 25, 2012 6:17 AM
Yes it does.
# mhofbauer0812
Thursday, October 25, 2012 9:22 AM
One of the main reasons other countries do not invade the US is because they know almost every American owns a gun. Not only do they have to fight the miltary but the entire population. Vote PRO GUN!!!!
# ron chamblee
Thursday, October 25, 2012 1:46 PM
my vote is tell obama to worry about all the other world problems and leave our guns laws alone because if you take ourrights to bare arms then the only ones with guns would be cops and ciminals and terrorists
# lectrify67
Friday, October 26, 2012 5:55 AM
It is my opinion that our elected officials are put into office, sworn to uphold our Constitution. If they vote for anything to contradict our constitution such as gun control, then they are effectively committing treason and should be punished accordingly, to include impeachment.

Our constitution was written carefully and concisely so as to last forever. The more that we let politicians bastardize the constitution with amendments and adjustments, the better chance we have to loose every freedom that our forefathers have fought and died to secure for us. If you don't like our rules, go get your own country and leave mine alone.

Gun control is a tight pattern and everyone can carry concealed if they chose.

Once again, just my opinion.
# jreinert
Friday, October 26, 2012 10:42 AM
i dont even know who to vote for from what i heard they both ar a little wishy washy on the hole gun subject
# eburgess21
Saturday, October 27, 2012 6:47 AM
In accordance with the US Constitution, a treaty only needs to be passed by the President and the Senate. It then becomes "Law of the Land." This mistake in the document led to the first major disruption in congress, over what was known as "The Jay Treaty." John Jay (US Supreme Court Chief Justice) worked on a treaty which the President signed, and it became law. James Madison, then a member of the House of Relresentatives, fought the Treaty because it demanded funds from the treasury to implement. His argument was that since spending bills must originate in the House, a treaty that demanded spending should be approved by the House as well. But he lost this argument because the Constitution clearly says that the President and Senate can pass treaties. The language doesn't include the House, or a 2/3 majority vote by the States!

Therefore, the President and the Senate could in fact pass the UN Small Arms Treaty. Watch out!
# RAbear51
Saturday, October 27, 2012 7:40 AM
is ANYONE aware that this "president" has enacted executive orders on mamy , many different issues thus COMPLETELY circumventing the Legislative/Judicial process and quite proudly thumbing his nose at our Constitutional process and the document specifically.He enacted an executive order that allows the Govt. to suspend virtually ALL private rights during a declared state of emergency thereby rendering the general populace inert and helpless as penned sheep. Why would he do such a thing? My opinion is that it is a preemptive action to enable the THUGS to quell ANY uprising against them when the day finally and inevitably comes that the people have had ENOUGH !!The day is coming when they will cower behind walls while their private armies *(DEA,ICE,Secret Service,FBI,Homeland Security et.al.)busy themselves with mopping up opposition..(the people attempting to stand up for themselves)Anyone that thinks that any of these self-serving thugs has ANY respect for our constitutional rights better wake up,inform themselves of past actions behind closed doors and hide your guns. They are going to attempt to take them..
# RAbear51
Saturday, October 27, 2012 7:51 AM
oh yeah..as to the original question:Pandering or Posturing? This arrogant,power-mongering,Mussolini-like little twerp is way beyond needing to pander to anyone. He has secretly created a scenario,set the stage and prepared for total disarmement of the population and so his words are exactly...POSTURING. Hold onto your seats folks...we're in for the ride of our lives. Better prepare to be sitting so as to not be sat upon.
# RAbear51
Saturday, October 27, 2012 7:58 AM
oops..sorry: Better prepare to STAND so as not to be SAT upon !!!
# bigrig
Saturday, October 27, 2012 11:55 AM
To add some more credence to a comment on the 24th. His secretary of transportation and the assigned secretary of the Federal Motor Carrier Association implememted new rules in 2010 for bus drivers and truck drivers. Mainly targeting truck drivers with some rules called CSA 2010. To none commercial drivers. It may not sound bad. To commercial drivers. It can be devestating to they're jobs if caught up in it. Along with the company/ies they work for. Obama was told in a letter from congress with 47 signatures on it that this was not a good idea. And,not to do it. He implimented it anyway. This law was not voted on by congress. Or, was it even put before congress to vote on. This, my friends, is a clear demonstration of dictatorship. Since when. Under our democracy has a law been put into place without our representatives having a chance to say yea, or nay on a law. Well, there it is. Obama is doing it under executive orders. This, in my opinion is dictatorship. He is abusing his position as president.






# bigrig
Saturday, October 27, 2012 3:05 PM
I misnamed the administration. It is the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration. Did you know that if a truck driver is caught using his/her's cell phone in any way without being off the side of the road? That means even while stopped at a stop light. They can be cited and fined $3500.00? That is from Obama too. That law should be across the board for anyone who drives. They are constantly targeting commercial drivers. He said that we don't need trucks. We have trains. How are the products going to get to the production facilities, then to market for the consumer without trucks. He is a complete moron in his own little world. Scarey thing is. There are a lot of people that are as stupid as he is that are going to vote for him. Your neighbor, your coworker etc.
# newlywed101307
Saturday, October 27, 2012 5:53 PM
Unarmed citizens are unable to resist, Thats what they want .
I think a well armed population also keeps our military in check to keep us from being trampled on.
# Mickeyg54
Saturday, October 27, 2012 11:03 PM
My understanding of the U.N. Small Arms Treaty is that once it has been passed by a member nation, the treaty becomes international law. Basically, the U.N. then has the right of enforcement and can send troops into any country that goes back on the treaty. That means foreign troops knocking on every door in the U.S. to confiscate whatever they deem to be in violation of the treaty.
# jolson12
Sunday, October 28, 2012 10:25 AM
That is what Obama wants
# dcarter11
Sunday, October 28, 2012 2:33 PM
all of what has been said here leads to only 1 logical conclusion and that is that there must needs be a new amendment added the constitution. here is what I propose.
# dcarter11
Sunday, October 28, 2012 3:04 PM
No treaty signed by any official shall overturn nor void any article or amendment to the Constitution of The United States of America.
No Treaty signed by any President or Senate shall be used to bypass the Constitution of The United States of America to impliment a law or to make a law of enforce a law that violates or countermands the rights provisioned for the people of The United States of America that are Gauranteed by the Constitution of The United States of America.
If there is such an Treaty in existance the has been signed in to law Prior this amendment that treaty or treaties is not countermand and if such provisioned for by said treaties is to be law then the formentioned treaty or treaties must be presented as a bill.

In addition the the above, no new bill shall be more than 10 pages long and must only pertain to a specific mater and or circumstace and must be made available to the people to read though all modern means or if neccesary by primitive means.
# dcarter11
Sunday, October 28, 2012 3:09 PM
to make a law or enforce a law.

that has been signed.

speciffic matter.

to read or hear read.


# dcarter11
Sunday, October 28, 2012 3:12 PM
if enough people push it we can make this a nice addition to the Constitution. what do you all think about it.
# Cherokee
Sunday, October 28, 2012 8:58 PM
WELL ALL'S GOOD WITH ALL OF THAT!! BUT WHAT'S REALY GOING TO HAPPEN IS WERE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER CIVIL WAR !!!! AND , I FOR ONE AM NOT GOING TO GIVE MY GUN'S TO THE GOVERNMENT.. I FOUGHT FOR THIS DAM COUNTRY AND GAVE IT 15 PLUS YREAS AS A SNIPER FOR THE USMC AND , I'LL BE DAMED IF SOME SOB IS GOING TO TELL ME THAT WE HAVE NO RIGHT'S TO KEEP AND BEAR ARM'S.. SO IF THEY WANT A WAR THEN LET'S GO ..
# Mickeyg54
Sunday, October 28, 2012 11:32 PM
I'm with you Cherokee. I gave 24+ in USAF, not the same skill set, but I shoot straight and learn fast.

Another reason this election is so important is the next office holder will likely be appointing 2-3 for the Supreme Court. We need Constitutional judges not the radicals of the last four years. Judges that will stand up for US laws and not let pols bypass the Constitution.
# bigjack1
Monday, October 29, 2012 5:05 AM
It will be a cold day in hell before they take my guns.

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