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Urban Deer: Pay Sharpshooters Or Let Hunters Hunt?

By: J.R. Absher

Sep 04

As more suburban towns and municipalities successfully utilize hunters—particularly bowhunters—to help control deer populations, one can only wonder why some cities continue to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to have professional and government sharpshooters kill their troublesome whitetails.

It’s especially baffling because most city councils and county commissions across the country today are already financially strapped, and are faced with cutting services to taxpayers.

Evidently, money grows on the trees in Solon, Ohio, where the city paid more than $185,000 to have 300 deer culled from its parks and public land earlier this year—and those in charge of the program are recommending it should continue.

The culling of whitetails last winter in the northeastern Ohio city by U.S. Department of Agriculture sharpshooters cost taxpayers a total of $183,353, according to a summary report of the program produced by David Hromco, a former Solon official who managed the program on a part-time basis.

Between Jan. 30 and March 19 the federal employees killed 300 deer, which translates to a cost-per-animal of around $611.

According to Hromco, included in the charges were USDA cost, meat transportation and processing, police overtime, city personnel overtime for site monitoring, and baiting and direct city costs.

And this week, after reviewing the costs, Hromco must consider $611 per deer a good deal, because he says he wants to see it continue.

“Although continuing the program in the future can only be done at the direction of the mayor and council, it is the consensus and recommendation of those that monitored and administered the project to continue the program using sharp-shooting methods,” he said.

Here’s the breakdown of the cost for Solon’s deer cull:

USDA cost: $103,000
Meat transportation and processing: $19,253
Police overtime: $40,547
City personnel overtime: $8,602
Direct city costs for baiting, site work: $11,951
Total cost: $183,353
Cost per deer (based on 300 culled): $611.18

Not only could qualified and trustworthy bowhunters do the job just as well as federally-employed gunners, but we’ll also bet they’d even pay a few dollars for the opportunity to put some additional venison in their freezers.

13 comments

# npaul
Tuesday, September 04, 2012 4:28 PM
Classic, I mean why any government establishment would choose a win-win option, when they can pay another government organization to waste money is just ridiculous. Let’s do a cost evaluation on option #2 assuming that bow hunters could harvest these deer at $20 a head:
Total cost to city would be $0. City income would be $6000. City happy, hunters happy… Yep can’t do that.
# rbaker9
Tuesday, September 04, 2012 7:42 PM
I agree hunters would be cheaper than government organizations. Just look at the situations out west in parks where no hunting is aloud ,but want to hire park rangers and wardens to shoot and even let them lay where they fall just to feed bears and wolf's. Here in Carolina you can not bait on game management but the biologist can bait and trap at the same time for hogs. Hunters and landowners in these areas have no rights also. Thats the goverment way of doing business for each other instead of letting people help. Also not to mention money that would be spent and made in towns from hunters, food,gas,tags, and rentals for property owners for any leases made.
# Dale.jr
Tuesday, September 04, 2012 9:25 PM
I agree with npaul they need to allow the hunters a chance to fill there freezers.They should open land to the hunters and allow a longer season if needed other than spending there tax payers dollars and throwing meat away that could feed so many people at the same time help their community.Deer are going to be killed on the roads cause we are a growing country and that means more roads taking up our woodlands to make more of a city.So everyone needs to enjoy their hunting cause we my not have much of a season before long,Let's hope I'm wrong.It would be my first time...lol...rotflmao...Not much to laugh about..
# dcarter11
Wednesday, September 05, 2012 4:38 AM
You mean the Hire Professionals .. Look Here Amatures built the Ark. Professionals built the titanic. You tell me who you really want to hunt your deer. Professionls I think not.
# brichter
Wednesday, September 05, 2012 5:58 AM
Well, it is a perfect example of government working on all cylinders; and, each part of the government getting a portion of the pot of money at taxpayers’ expense!!
USDA cost: $103,000
Why - the deer are wild and are healthier then the beef or chicken controlled by the government regulations.
Meat transportation and processing: $19,253
Why - a lot of gas, trucks, miles to where? Local hunters could do much better.
Police overtime: $40,547
Why - crowd control, must be worried the sniper would miss their targets or shoot a citizen?
City personnel overtime: $8,602
Why - Need to watch the sniper and police work?
Direct city costs for baiting, site work: $11,951
Why - local bait from a farm is what $5 per bag of sugar beets x 300 deer - $1,500.

Total cost: $183,353
Cost per deer (based on 300 culled): $611.18

I think the government see a lot of gravy ($$$) in this animal control problem.

Where are all the animal activists on this one???

# RAbear51
Wednesday, September 05, 2012 7:10 AM
My question here is the one that very few ever ask anymore in this country...What do the PEOPLE think ?? You know..the ones who ACTUALLY pay for these moronic policy implementations, the ones who ACTUALLY pay for the acquisition,developement and maintenance of these PUBLIC areas. When will we begin to once again DEMAND to be involved in everyday decision-making and policy setting concerning OUR cities and PUBLIC areas? We tolerate these money-grubbing morons constantly and consistantly making decisions and policies "For Us " that lack any sound common sense reasoning or any sensible fiscal reasoning, enriching themselves and driving us deeper into indebtedness and poor management practices. Enough is Enough. Attend public hearings...if they even bother to have them....VOTE and become involved. These public lands are YOURS and the deer are YOURS...They are NOT the "KINGS" bounty. Demand sound, balanced research before allowing knee-jerk reactionary decisions that are wasteful and STUPID. DEMAND accountability for those that are running their own little private fifedoms at OUR expense...SHEEESH !!!
# glassrooster
Wednesday, September 05, 2012 9:46 AM
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# kpalm1
Wednesday, September 05, 2012 10:25 AM
Here in Canada we have the same problem. Deer in the urban area are being killed by impacts with cars and trucks. Hunters are not allowed to take deer in city limits because a wounded animal would upset the feelings of city dwellers. But the sight of a dead or crippled deer or a damaged vehicle and injured or killed person has no effect. Bow hunters could clear up a lot of these "rats with horns" and save a lot of money and put money into the city treasury. But politicians just waste money. Taxpayers have to much anyway.
# killerassassin
Wednesday, September 05, 2012 11:27 AM
WTF is wrong with people!!!! stop relying on the g*d dam government to help you.... call on your community to help you and stop wasting everyone's everything "you dumb son of a b**ch" this kind of crap is why our country is in turmoil.... its a wast of money /time/ energy if its all going to the wrong people!!! but its not surprising that it happened in Ohio, there is a lot of dumb mother f-ers in charge over there....!
i trap varmints within the city limits where i live and hunt yotes in the open space around the neighbor hoods, i believe it helps.. honestly i dont care about there dumb laws. there's no missing dogs or cats, no torn up garbage can on the side of the road on trash day, no coyote bits on people,the animal control(police) does not have to deal with wild animals. well not near where i live at least..nana-nana-boo-boo!!
# bmorine
Wednesday, September 05, 2012 12:28 PM
I live in minnesota and the metro area has a no quota for a majorority of the area the bonus tags are 12.00
if the local governments would stop thinking like idiots about this issue and let certified hunters hunt the deer population would be more manageable
instead they have nothing more to do than spend tax payers money for stupidity as this
I received my firearm safety certification when I was 11 years old and I have been bow hunting since I was 14 years old
unless you are part of a eleate group of people with pull and money you will never get into those kind of clubs
and when i was taught I have allways made sure of where my shot will go after and this is being passed down to my children as this is what I want them to do when they choose
these governments need to open these lands for the hunters not only to manage the herds but feed their families also
government need to quit this stupid way of thinking
# JROBICHAUD
Thursday, September 06, 2012 5:41 PM
Just a few short words,screw the sharpshooters!!!!!! 95% of us hunters are sharpshooters ourselves and also know how and when to shoot.Alot of those"sharpshooters" dont even know where to put their crosshairs!!!!!!!!!!!!
# jakeraney87
Sunday, September 09, 2012 11:11 AM
There is a way to get the best of both worlds here. Urban deer will be much more relaxed in most cases. Allow for hunters to use bows. Should a rifle be needed make it to where there is a qualification required. Nothing hard something like 5 rounds of your weapon of choice at 100 yds withing a 3" circle. To easy the hunter then can retain the game that he kills, or can recive a little cash and donate the meat to a shelter. There is a way to make everyone happy here.. If you turn just any hunter loose in a residential area there is a huge potential for hunters recieving a bad name for missed shots causing damage to private property or a bad shot and wounding an animal and it dies in a painful way in someone yard. Hunters should be able to take the game within limits. Would you want Mr. No name out there with his 06 blasting away in your back yard???
# jimmccasland
Tuesday, October 02, 2012 3:47 PM
Well you have Mr. Noname out hunting during regular deer season so thats one bad excuse to try to keep the that argument going. Make it a drawing to hllet the local hunters thin the local deer, and either keep the meat for themselves or donate it.

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