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Two Of The Best All-Around Whitetail Cartridges

By: Ron Spomer

Jul 17

You face a conundrum if you’re determined to own one of the best-balanced, easy shooting, deadly accurate whitetail rounds ever developed. Will it be the .260 Rem. or 6.5 Creedmoor?

"Conundrum" is a 5-dollar word for a “tough question.” But this one is actually easy because both of these new cartridges are peas in a pod. And they truly could be considered the absolute, all-around best for whitetails, black bears, mule deer, pronghorns and even sheep. They’re not excessive for coyotes, either, and with the right bullets you won’t find an elk or moose that will like them.

Those of you who know either cartridge might be shaking your heads about now. After all, these short-action rounds throw 140-grain bullets just 2,700 fps. That’s hardly magnum horsepower. And that’s partly why they’re so deadly.

For every action there’s an opposite and equal reaction, which is why so many of us flinch when igniting super magnums that spit 160- to 180-grain projectiles 3,100 to 3,500 fps. Ouch. You might not think you flinch. You might not want to admit you flinch. But, unless you practice shooting your magnum a lot, you probably flinch.

With a .260 Rem. or 6.5 Creedmoor you won’t.

These efficient little devils, based on the .308 Win. case, only need about 45 grains of powder to reach full potential in a 24-inch barrel. They’ll come darn close to that in 22-inch barrels, but they’re built on short-action rifles, so you can gain the extra bit of speed (maybe 25-50 fps at most) with the additional 2 inches of barrel and still keep overall rifle length the same as a standard-length magnum with its 24-inch tube. Efficiency again.

But the real benefit is the reduced recoil with the lighter bullet and powder charge. A 7mm Rem. Mag. burns 64 grains of R-19 powder to drive a 140-grain bullet 3,100 fps. A 6.5 Creedmoor burns just 45 grains to reach 2,700 fps. The recoil energy from the 7mm (if both rifles weighed the same) is 18.9 foot pounds. The Creedmoor recoil is just 12.3 foot pounds. This suggests you’ll flinch less and shoot best with the 6.5. The .260 Rems and 6.5 Creedmoors I’ve shot feel like a .243 Win. Obviously they kick a bit more than that because the .243 Win. is also based on a .308 Win. case, but it spits just a 100-grain bullet, so would have to kick less. Nevertheless, the recoil from any of these is so minimal that it doesn’t begin to approach the “ouch” stage.

But what about that sacrifice in velocity? Aren’t these two .264 caliber shorties going to leave you in a long-range freefall? Not really.

If you remember, they and the 7mm Rem. Mag. were both throwing 140-grain bullets. That means the .264 caliber (6.5mm) projectiles are going to be longer for their weight and have a higher ballistic coefficient. This means they slip more efficiently through the atmosphere. Zeroed at 250 yards, the above loads at stated velocities fly like this:

Now, if you were trying to terminate a moose at 500 yards, you wouldn’t argue strongly for either of the 6.5s. But how many of us ever take shots at game much beyond 300 yards? Is the 1-inch difference in drop at 300 yards going to make you miss a whitetail or even a coyote? Not even the 4-inch difference at 400 yards means much, especially if you memorize your drops and compensate for them. Notice how wind deflection is almost identical. Only a half-inch better for the 7mm at 500 yards.

The .260 Rem. came out in 1997—it’s essentially the .308 Win. necked down. The 6.5 Creedmoor came out in 2007—it’s the .308 Win. necked down, but also shortened slightly with a sharper shoulder and straighter walls so bullets can be seated long without protruding into powder space, while still functioning through short-action rifles. At best, the Creedmoor might yield 25 fps more speed than the .260 Rem. For hunting, the difference isn’t going to make a difference. Choose either.

But realize this: Factory-loaded ammunition isn’t widespread. Remington, Federal and Nosler load the .260 Rem., and Hornady loads the Creedmoor. They have some nice options, but for maximum benefit, plan to handload. Bullets range from 95-160 grains, making this pair of modern 6.5mms two of the best whitetail rounds going.


.260 Rem. (left) and 6.5 Creedmoor (right) shown alongside a .308 Win. (center).

19 comments

# npaul
Tuesday, July 17, 2012 10:50 AM
I considered the 6.5 Creedmoor as a rifle for my wife to hunt deer and elk. She liked my Dads .243 and didn’t like my .30-06. I thought that this round might be the perfect compromise between reduced recoil and knock down power.
The biggest concern that I had was the limited availability of factory ammo. I don’t hand load (although I would like to start some day) so I rely on factory ammo and limited availability always means higher price.
I still want to want to try the 6.5 and maybe one day I’ll have the gear to do hand loads and the problem will be solved.
# dcarter11
Tuesday, July 17, 2012 11:19 AM
I can not argue one way or the other about what round is better but I like my mosen nagant and brown bear 7.62x54 203gr ammo it hits hard and there is zero recoil. Its not under weight like alot of high power riffles therefore the felt recoil is like I said,zero and it pack a whole lot of knock it down power. I put it this way. I have never had to track a single deer I have shot with it./ Like I said Im not argueing about what riffle round combo is the best, I am just telling you all about the experiance I have had with mine.
# kyotee
Tuesday, July 17, 2012 5:36 PM
Looks like you're trying to sell something instead of actually trying to prove a point which is typical of NAHC. Neither round is readily available and are very expensive and neither is big enough for larger game like bear or even mulies. I'll stick with my 270 and 243 for whitetail and pronghorn and 300 win mag for bear and mulies.
# bswig69
Tuesday, July 17, 2012 6:45 PM
My deer rifle of choice is a Remington model 700 chambered for 270. I use a ballistic silver tipped bullet. I have used this combo for years and have never had a problem with putting down big ole white tails.
# anorby1
Tuesday, July 17, 2012 8:11 PM
very interesting I'm still pretty new to cartridge comparison so I would like to hear more about these and other cartridges.
# tiffie
Wednesday, July 18, 2012 11:23 AM
# straight shooter
Wednesday July 18, 2012 11 AM
The 6mm with a 100 grain nosler has served me well for years, little recoil and works great on whitetail, mule deer and antelope. You might consider this caliber for your wife.................
# jmoore64
Wednesday, July 18, 2012 12:42 PM
my deer riffle of choice is kimber 7mm-08 139 grain bullet with 46 grain of h380 powder hand loads the velocity is about 2651 it a good all around riffle. it the other small 308.
# blueview
Wednesday, July 18, 2012 8:58 PM
30.06 for everything on the North American Continent. Load up, Load down, load in the middle. It's even effective on most African game. Flat shooting and manageable recoil. What more could you ask of a cartridge?
# jdusa1
Thursday, July 19, 2012 6:20 AM
Although I do have a 30-06, my choice for whitetail deer hunting is my .303 Savage. It was developed to capture the market of the more popular .30-30 Winchester. It was once used as a military in 1895 and became a commercial success in their Model 1899 lever action rifle which I have. Despite its ".303" nomenclature, the .303 Savage is usually reloaded with standard .308" (.30 caliber) bullets. In a practical sense, it has about 1-2 grains greater useful capacity than the .30-30. Although normally loaded with flat point or round nose bullets, its 6 shot rotary magazine can accommodate spitzers. This weapon has little to no recoil and I have hit my target every time, the first time at distances as far out as 200 yards.
Yes, My weapon may be old; but it works and at the end of day all that matters is wheather that deer is hanging in my barn or still running around.
Because of its age it is however hard to find ammo for this weapon; I found several places on the internet that does supply this and many other hard to find ammo. The place I use is Reeds Ammo (http://shop.reedsammo.com). They seem to have all ammo I need at a decent price.
# vdagiel
Friday, July 20, 2012 12:34 AM
Instead of some esoteric load that one probably won't find at the Piggly Wiggly, why not just shoot a .243, 25-06, 7mm-08, or .270 Winchester if displaying allergies to recoil?

All are far more readily available, have multiple factory ammunition choices, and can readily be improved upon with judicious handloading.
# odie77
Monday, July 23, 2012 12:55 PM
I would agree that the .260 Rem. and 6.5 Creedmoor are excellent cartridge choices for "All-Around Whitetail". However as you mentioned ammunition availability and selection are the primary concerns and prices play an even more vital role in today's economy. I, personally will leave these two cartridges to handloaders. If recoil is the main issue that determines one's choice then I personally believe the .243 Win. is a far better choice. There is a plethora of factory available ammunition for this caliber suited for plinking, targets, varmints and "deer-size" big-game. Those SUPER-SENSITIVE to recoil may even consider the .223 Rem. loaded with Federal Fusion, Winchester Power-Max Bonded, Barnes Vor-tx, etc. Of course one must check state game laws for there area first to be sure the .223 Rem. is LEGAL. The .243 Win. is a superior deer and antelope cartridge with light recoil in regard to the .223 Rem.
# njd58
Monday, July 23, 2012 1:16 PM
i use 12ga sabot slugs when hunting in slug only counties but in new york for white tail and black bear ive never had a problem putting them down with a good quality bonded 223. rem mag. and the reduced wieght and size of the 223 in an ar is great for long hikes in search of a monster buck or bear and for anything bigger i use my 300 win mag
# gehee
Monday, July 23, 2012 3:27 PM
the 6.5's are great choices for anything up to black bear and a good choice for elk and moose (they are commonly hunted for moose, european elk, in Scandanavia, well, actually their SLOWER cousin the 6.5x55 is.) one caveat, a number of states require a 270 or larger diameter for elk, for which the 6.5 family does not qualify, which is actually why i went with the 7mm-08 instead.
# jmclean5
Tuesday, July 24, 2012 2:16 PM
I cant argue for one round or the other. I see the pros and cons to both. All there are these simple truths: cost of rifle, cost of the ammo and above all shot placement. It doesn't matter how large the bullet is comes down to marksmanship.
# Last one
Wednesday, July 25, 2012 7:08 PM
Afer fracturing my neck and having spinal cord damage, I choose TC's icon in 30 cal. Much lighter, easier to use the safety and no recoil compared to my #77 rugers in 270 and 30.06. What a job on whitetails and mules also. Main drawback is Hornaday is the supplier of ammo. Good thing my son-in-law reloads. My granddaughters enjoy hunting as well as target shooting with the icon.
# cscotthunt
Friday, July 27, 2012 10:41 AM
I have several rifles that dance around the .308 cal bullet. I think the one I like that has knock down but low recoil it the K-31 Swiss or 7.5x55. But I like all of my refiles. My .30x06 is probably my best all around gun. It has lighter recoil than my .300 Win Mag and I can load it light enough for 'yotes. I have heard a lot of hype about the 6.5 Creedmor But I will have to shot it and see its performance for myself.
# patton
Saturday, July 28, 2012 10:28 AM
Jack O'Conner and the Winchester 270 Cal.It's dejavue
# bdh1966
Friday, August 03, 2012 6:57 AM
In 2003 I purchased a Ruger Mark II in 260 Rem for my son when he turned 12 years. Given the 16" barrel I was doubtful that the accuracy would be sufficient to stay in my gun cabinet long term. Since it was a used gun and it fit my son I thought it would be good enough for a few years. Using 140 grain core-lokt bullets my son was able to harvest a few deer. Like others have expressed the lack of factory ammo is less than appealing with this cartridge. Recently I began reloading and this was one of the first cartridges that I began working on. I found that Hornady's 129 grain SST shoots 1" groups at 100 yards using 42 grains of W760 or 40 grains of Big Game. The W760 had a few groups with a sub 1" MOA so I have settled on that powder. I do believe that most will agree that is above average results for a short barrel. If you don't reload then the 260 Rem is tough to justify. With that, the 260 Rem is easy to shoot and an accurate caliber.
# chapy101
Monday, August 06, 2012 6:09 PM
I love my .260, and it takes down our Virginia deer without effort! I own the Ruger M77 Compact and it is the perfect gun for that caliber. Great Article!!!

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