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Mentoring Question: What Would You Do?

By: Bill Miller

Oct 10

I went duck hunting locally over the weekend by myself ... well, just me and the dog. The weather was unseasonably warm so it was pretty slow. I bagged a couple mallards on a public hunting area by slogging back to a spot that’s seldom hunted.

At the parking area a fan of "North American Hunter-TV" recognized me and brought his son over to introduce themselves. They’d enjoyed some success, too. In fact, it was hard to tell who was more excited: the boy who’d bagged his first duck, or Dad! I was excited for the youngster, too, and shook his hand and congratulated him.

The boy was reserved, but Dad filled me in on details. He told me where they were hunting and what they’d seen. I smiled and nodded, enjoying their enthusiasm until Dad told me about his son actually shooting the duck. He said it came in and landed splash in the middle of the decoys and he told his son to shoot it.

That started to turn me off. I know a lot of young hunters get their start that way and work into shooting birds in the air, but it didn’t happen that way when I cut my hunting teeth. We shot birds, waterfowl or upland, in the air or we didn’t shoot at all.

I didn’t say anything, but started to work on my getaway. Dad kept on, then asked me to take a picture of him and his boy with the duck.  “Aw, sure.” Why not?

He handed me his phone and grabbed the limp bird from the back of their truck. They rested against the rail fence around the parking area and held it up for a classic “grip and grin” shot.  I composed the picture best I could and snapped a couple.

I handed him back the phone and Dad said, “Thanks for taking a picture of my boy and his first teal.”

It was all I could do from whipping my head around and correcting him: I’d just taken a picture of the two of them holding a hen bufflehead stretched beneath their grins nearly as wide as its wingspan. Did Dad know the difference or was he just trying to make it an even bigger deal for his son by labeling it as a more “desirable” duck? I don’t know and never will. I just bit my lip, climbed in my truck and drove out.

Did I do the right thing? Every fiber of my duck hunting being tells me I should have set the record straight with Dad about encouraging his son to shoot a duck on the water and then not even giving him the right information about what it was. How is the kid ever going to know right from wrong and learn the fine points of duck hunting, such as waterfowl identification, that make it so interesting and addicting?

On the other hand, this is coming from a guy (me) who, when his best high school friend and hunting partner’s first child was born, gifted to the day-old baby a handmade set of waterfowl I.D. flashcards! No BS!

Did I do the right thing by just minding my own business and allowing father and son to have their fun and moment together? Or should I have stood up for the heritage of American waterfowl hunting and corrected them both with the hope of setting them on a better course? What would you have done?

10 comments

# npaul
Tuesday, October 11, 2011 7:34 PM
You did exactly the right thing Bill. Unwanted advice is just annoying information to the recipient. I can tell you what would have happened if my Dad had been you, he would have said nothing but congratulations and then come straight home to ask his boys if they would shoot a duck on the water and if they knew what kind of duck it was. If that boy really gets into the sport, then one day he will probably be asking, “Dad, why did you tell me that was a Teal?”
Setting the record straight might have actually discouraged the boy and it would have cast his dad in a bad light. After all, he could have left the boy at home but he was making (even if not very well) a future hunter.
# vdagiel
Wednesday, October 12, 2011 8:24 AM
I'd let it go it it were me.

As you said, they recognized you. That means you're a personality that will be expected to be on thier best behavior, no matter the situation. I might've said something, on the side, to Dad but out of earshot of the kid. No reason to ruin a kid's expirience when he doesn't know any better.

You, being a public persona, don't have the privacy I do. That means you "grin and bear it" and take it on the chin. You don't even get the option of saying something on the side to Dad. That's the price of fame. Anonymity has it's advantages.
# srauscher
Thursday, October 13, 2011 9:36 AM
Good job.You did it right.Lord knows there are other hunters out there that would shoot ducks on the water.In fact I was watching a hunting show on tv that showed an older person doing the same.It wasn't right and I don't do that and I can only hope this kid will learn the right way to duck hunt and maybe Dad will get some sort of id off the web so he can be smater too.
# kell
Friday, October 14, 2011 1:39 PM
last time I looked it was against the law to shoot ducks (unwounded) on the water. If the duck was an illegal kill out of season or such would you have said something. I think that education and honesty is the best policy. Could you have maybe taken the Father to the side and explained this, or maybe offered to take the boy and his dad on a hunt and explain the code of ethics that we as hunters have subscribed to when we bought our license? I think you ducked the hard decision most likely because you were afraid of a confrontation.
# jcribben
Friday, October 14, 2011 2:18 PM
A kid is easily discouraged when it comes to patience if it takes shooting a grounder to build enthusiasm in a young hunter then so be it we want the next generation to strive not be discouraged I happen to agree with the kids dad
# EliBourne
Friday, October 14, 2011 3:03 PM
This is why I don't hunt ducks. I wouldn't know the difference myself and don't have the time to learn. God forbid I shoot the wrong kind of duck and run into the game warden instead of Bill. Not to mention the fact that I don't see how anyone can positively ID one on the fly in the cold grey dawn lighting. My guess is dad never had much experience hunting ducks either and was doing his best. As for the shooting a grounded bird. if they had the set up that good and fooled the bird into the setup that's pretty good hunting. I don't see the difference between that and turkey hunting. If he also chooses to shoot them on the fall or rise only as time moves along then so be it. Ethics are personal, individual choices we each have to decide upon for ourselves.
# rstolte jr
Friday, October 14, 2011 5:07 PM
I think you did the right thing up to a point congratulate the kid on his success and get dad off to the side and tell him of the mistaken identification maybe suggest a web site or booklets that has some basic waterfowl identification information.( dont embarrass dad in front of the kid)
and be just as enthusiastic as you can tell them both hey if you really want to try something hard shoot them as they are flying in next time. i think that coming from a celebrity most folks would be more apt to listen to a professional. a passer by might just say hey dad wrong type of duck and go on their way and ruin the feeling for the child which is where our future and the future of hunting lays. sounds like a great topic for a episode of north american hunter t.v.
# DDEVAN
Friday, October 14, 2011 7:05 PM
Bill, I think you did right, some people do not accept criticism well, especially in front of their children, I too, wish the father did the right thing and identify the waterfowl right and the ethics on shooting. I too, was brought up by my father to be ethical and not shoot waterfowl on the water...always i the air...same goes for turkeys...no shoot in the roost...wait for them to be worked by you..My dad is gone now but left me a well trained man.
# ArmyParalegal
Saturday, October 15, 2011 6:02 AM
Father and son moments are far too valuable to spoil in these days where fathers and sons sometimes don't get moments. One day, the message will get to them. I would chalk it up to inexperience on their part. The experience will come and they will feel the same way you do. Not everyone is lucky enough to have the proper training from the beginning. It will come to them. You are a public figure. A certain amount of grace comes with responsibility and more comes with maturity. One day, you'll get a message from them saying that they learned the error of their ways with a warm thank you for not spoiling something pivotal in life that could mean a better or worse father and son relationship for life.
# mparks2
Tuesday, October 18, 2011 11:48 PM
You did the right thing at the time. You're also doing the right thing by posting your concerns on the web. Who knows maybe the dad will read your article and learn from it, maybe not. Either way, you voiced your opinion!

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