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Are Scouting Cams Getting Too Helpful?

By: Mark Kayser

Aug 15

You may have heard the flap over the past year or so about Montana making scouting cameras illegal to use during hunting seasons. It came as a surprise to many hunters, but if you read the fine print, it is indeed illegal to have a camera out and check the images if a "commission-adopted hunting season" is in play.

I disagree with that rule based upon the way I use my Bushnell Trophy Cam. I put it out and check it once or twice a month before the season starts, and during the season I only have it out to scout locations I may need as a backup.

Of course, as scouting cameras become more technologically advanced, I begin to see some conflicts with ethics. Some cameras offer instant updates, sent to your cell phone with images that clearly show an animal is at a certain location at a specific time. If you're just over the hill, you could sneak into position next to a green field and ambush a buck or bull.

For such cameras to work, you need cell service, but even in the outback of Montana that's becoming more and more common. Outside the Rocky Mountain region, cell service is almost guaranteed unless you have a bad service plan or find yourself at the bottom of a deep valley. More sophisticated surveillance systems even work off of satellites with the ability to send instant video or images, but that technology is cost prohibitive for the average hunter.

Personally, I believe a better choice would be to limit the use of technology that offers instant updates, and still allow the use of scouting cams that require you to physically check the unit to see "what's up." That would still make it legal to use most current cameras, but limit those with instant-information capabilities.

Remember when the definition of scouting was looking for tracks, droppings and rubs? What's your opinion on scouting cam technology? Share your thoughts in the comment box below.

20 comments

# npaul
Monday, August 15, 2011 12:24 PM
Personally, I think that much of hunting is over regulated. Especially in western states. For example, in Washington you have to choose what method you want to hunt, say archery - Deer. You can only hunt deer with this method for that season. For elk you have to choose which side of the state you will hunt. The bag limit is always 1 of whatever you hunt.
I can see how an instant notification from a trail cam might give the unfair advantage but the use of a camera doesn’t guarantee success. Once the hunting starts the pressure will force many animals to adjust habits and travel routes. You might have the picture of a trophy today, who, will be over on the farm tomorrow just waiting it out. I’m just not sure what they are trying to avoid, having the hunter and the deer in the same place at the same time… Isn’t that called hunting?
# mgross9
Monday, August 15, 2011 6:23 PM
I think scouting cams are one of the most useful tools a hunter can have. No doubt, the instant notification is a bit unfair to the game but only with and unethical hunter. There should be some laws for the use of them but not complete restrictions.
# Mike
Tuesday, August 16, 2011 9:29 AM
What is an unfair advantage? Are they regulating that only 1 out of 5 deer can look for you in a hunting blind?
Technology should not be bogged down w/regulations. Do they limit the number of coyote that can hunt a deer? NO! So don't limit me on how I can hunt either! They already regulated seasons, the deer in my area don't pass fields to eat my crops because it's not "corn season".
The idea behind hunting is to control the population. If you want to change something, put a bag limit and require ALL animals to be tagged and checked in.
# SNOOP75303
Tuesday, August 16, 2011 10:27 AM
I do all my scouting the old fashion way no cams just walking in the woods looking for rubs tracks and that kind of stuff. It makes it that much better when you get one knowing you put the time and effort into finding them.
# RMOCKJR
Tuesday, August 16, 2011 10:57 AM
i scout the old fashion way also and always bag deer,i enjoy it more thats the way my dad did it and my grand dad scouted, did,nt have the cams in those days but im sure they still would not have changed there methods,it,s trediction.
# JNESTOR
Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:20 PM
old way here to also helps git or keep you in shape for real hunting
# rgoodnough
Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:26 PM
why use a camera when i can do what i love to do for free
# dcarter11
Tuesday, August 16, 2011 4:45 PM
the only laws that should exist for hunting is how many you can take and what size and common sense should tell you that is it unsafe to hunt at night so don't do unless you are in a tree stand with a good night vision scope. as far as how you aquire the game there should be no law no mater what method you use to get it. their should be a law aganst wasting meet, torturing animals and hunting under the influence of mind altering drugs or adult beverages. Hunting is not about being fair to the prey its about putting meat on the table keeping animal from over populating and seasons and bag limits are for keeping them from being over hunted.Those of us who are true hunters know this and personaly I like the challence of a fair chase or still hunt. thats just me. But if I wanted to use a trail cam then by God I have a right to do so and no government or principality has the right to infringe upon my God given right to do so.
# Sstanich
Tuesday, August 16, 2011 7:05 PM
We should be able to use cameras anytime that we feel the need to. I use 3 cameras through out the year. I have them up all the time. I like to know what is coming and going through my hunting area. Especially if other hunters are coming through and scouting in my area. I like to know what is going on. Lets say I am looking for deer and I see a bear on the camera, I might end up deciding to bear hunt the area instead of deer. It is helpful in more than one way. What the regulations comes down to is just ways for us to not get food on our tables. What happends if this someone doesn't get the food on their table that they need or want. What extent are they going to go to to get what they need or want? I just think we should stick to the basic common sense regulations but then again maybe we can't do that because there would be to many people that don't use common sense and abuse the situations. Not sure what to think. Guess it all depends on the circumstances.
# CBANACH
Wednesday, August 17, 2011 5:19 AM
i have been hunting in the exsact same spot for the last 4-5 years. 90% of the time i jsut put my cameras out for the heck of it. i always like to see if hte big boys are still out there. i would actually use my cameras as intended... but i dont feel like moving my lader stand by myself.... hahah
# cmccluskey
Wednesday, August 17, 2011 7:03 AM
I was taught to HUNT ! I learned how to look for sign. I do put 2 camaras out before season at 1 location.to see who else is in this little patch of woods. not just deer but varmmits whether 4 legged or 2 legged. but cammaras are out of the woods BEFORE season.
# dcarter11
Wednesday, August 17, 2011 11:20 AM
I was highly ticked yesterday when I read this artical and as you can see I pretty much lost it when it came to keeping my comments to myself or containing my anger. if any of the language I used was to strong I appoligize. I just dont think there should be a law concerning what methods we use to put food on the table. I believe the government over steps its bond when the make these kinds of regulation. Sure we do need to make sure we are not careless about how many animals we take but how we take them is a nother matter. personaly I like the old fasion way but I dont begrudge someone else who prefers the new technoledgy. and the government should stay out of it. There are some unwritten rules about hunting that every one should know. Take only what you need. Be safe in concern for yourself and others. know your equipment and the game you are hunting and stay out of posted areas you don't have permission to hunt. Be mindfull of the rights of others. Don't allow others to compromise your rights. parents, take your kids hunting. I mentioned the last one because we need to make sure that we pass along to treddition of hunting from generation the generation.
# rlfree40
Wednesday, August 17, 2011 5:43 PM
this fall I am going hunting with my grandson, granddaughter, and my foster girls. I use a game cam and have no problems with it, but 24/7 served up 2 you on a cam, that's not hunting. I understand about regulations and I am not fond of every regulation that comes my way, but it's just not fair chase. I like the fact that maybe I know when a buck is coming through or hopefully a heard, but not as the game comes up to a bag of deer food that was left there for just the reason so that you can come back as soon as you get an alert on your game cam. never mind the regulation. is it really fair is all I am asking. there has to be some moniker of hunting in it. would love any feedback. this is an interesting new twist in the game and it really needs to be discussed.
# jpresser
Thursday, August 18, 2011 3:59 PM
I do all my scouting before season. If you need a camera during the season than you HAVE NOT done your homework prior to the season opening. Use the cameras PRE season, and when season is in HUNT! dont wast time looking for deer. If your looking for places to hunt during the season you already lost. Thats like memorizing a test that is supposed to be easy, amd when it comes to the test day you have to cheat to pass. SAD SAD. Put time in before the season and i will pay it back for you i promise.
# jpresser
Friday, August 19, 2011 12:04 AM
cmccluskey, couldnt agree more. good stuff
# roscopeecotrane
Friday, August 19, 2011 2:12 AM
I think automatic updates are ridiculous! I feel that hunters should learn the old fashion way of scouting and then adapt modern scouting into their hunting ethics.
Anyone who would consider ambushing deer isnt much of a hunter in my opinion. Im sure many would disagree now days but I come from famalies that dont believe in stands, blinds, or scent control. They simply use old fashion hunting ethics and tactics. I use cameras, stands, blinds and etc.
To not understand how to correctly use the old ways you are missing out on so much of what makes hunting fun and rewarding. Law regulations are needed but cameras are very useful in todays hurry and go society when many people cant spend endless hours scouting land to find deer and thus should be allowed but within reason and fair chase ruling.
# npaul
Friday, August 19, 2011 10:48 AM
I don't think that this issue has anything to do with ehtics. Ambushing deer is the point of hunting the "old fashioned way". You hunt game trails, work areas were the deer should be. You set up in the morning in the place that deer will come through and that is an ambush.
I don't see how a camera with instant updates is any different then using a fish finder, but I don't know of anyone who thinks that is unethical.
I've never used cameras. I don't own any. But I would use them if I did and instant alerts or not, you still have to get to the deer without getting busted. It's the same thing as spotting deer to far to shoot and trying to close the distance. I think it's a matter of how you like to hunt. If you want to use cameras then use 'em. If not then don't.
# jtyree
Sunday, August 21, 2011 1:08 PM
It's coming that all you can do is use a paintball gun for hunting,(CATCH AND RELEASE). Each hunter will have a different colores to shoot the deer with. You can't shoot a deer if it has a spot of paint on it, it has already beed taken. WOW what a sport. All the deer meat you take home will be Highfenched raised and butcherd for you. JUST SAYING
# rasmith1978
Sunday, August 21, 2011 8:41 PM
I have always scouted the old fashioned way. I don't think cams you have to physically check are too bad, the instant update cams just cause more problems. It just gives more chances to unethical people that are in the woods just to kill not hunt. Its that kind of person that puts the hunters over the barrel, and gives the government and all the anti-hunting people more ammo to use against us. I believe if you want to hunt then be a hunter! Put in the work it always feels better when you're successful!
# LBshooter
Friday, August 26, 2011 8:29 PM
Right on rasmith. Technology has created a lot of lazy hunters and it has created alot of unskilled hunters. whenever you turn on a hunting show all you hear about is all the new tech to make you more successful. I hunt public land in Il and to hear all the idiots talk about having cameras and acorn rage put out of which it is illegal in Il to bait, somehow ruins what hunting is all about. I talk to alot of guys who sit on stand and watch doe after doe and small buck after buck walk by and then they bitch about the deer they saw on thier camera that never showedlol. Now a days who needs to go to the rifle range when you can just punch in your bullet wieght and zero and have an app tell you how high to hold. Whats the point if the work and skill is all taken out of the game, knowing when a deer shows up is not hunting and we as a group need to get a clue and realize we are being sold down the road with all the technology. I shoot a longbow a stick and a string and i hunt and take whatever the opportunity gives and am most satisfied. some should try it and see what they have been missing, they might like it.

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