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Is Your Deer Cartridge The Best?

By: Mark Kayser

Aug 04

It's the never-ending story ... or, at least a debate in continuous deliberations. What am I mumbling about? No, it's not the debate about the nation's debt, although I'm sure you could grumble—I mean, debate that until the end of time. No, I'm focused on the debate regarding what the perfect deer hunting cartridge is. This debate rages in deer camps, convenience stores, ballgames and pubs every year, year-round. We all grew up with favorites and, in reality, every cartridge in the .243 Win. category and up has potential to be a deer hunting favorite.

Despite its rock-like trajectory, even the lovable .30-30 Win. can stake its claim as the best deer hunting cartridge, especially if you hunt brushy jungles. It's the cartridge that has likely put more venison on the table than any other in history. 
 
My personal favorite is the .300 Win. Mag., although I wouldn't kick the .300 Rem. Ultra Mag. out of my blind, nor would I turn a blind eye to the smaller cousin—the .30 T/C. I'll always toss a ballot into the box for those bone-busting favorites. 
 
Here's another cartridge to consider: the 6.5 (mm; .264 cal.) Creedmoor. You've undoubtedly heard about this cartridge and its versatility, ranging from varmints to big game. Here is more info to digest: It was introduced by Hornady in 2007 to be the perfect long-range match cartridge. It's close. 
 
The 6.5 Creedmoor was designed for accuracy, and most reports post sub-MOA, even from off-the-shelf hunting rifles like the T/C Icon. The cartridge sports a blazing muzzle velocity of 2,710 fps, and even more than 3,000 fps with lighter bullets. Plus, the trajectory allows you to easily do the math in your head—less than 10 inches of drop at 300 yards using a 140-grain Hornady A-Max bullet.
 
The 6.5 Creedmoor wasn't designed to tackle moose, but it can handle deer, hogs, pronghorns and varmints with ease. It can even take on elk with a little common sense. Lastly, it fits your entire family with light recoil, yet hard-hitting power.  
 
It's time to test, tweak and analyze your deer hunting rifle. Take a look at the Creedmoor if you're out shopping; it might just be the sporty new cartridge you've always wanted.
 

Watch the video below from Hornady to learn about the development of the 6.5 Creedmoor:

46 comments

# DSHEMAK
Friday, August 05, 2011 3:41 PM
I shoot a Remington 300 SAUM 700 BLD. I can drive tacks w/it. However, I am curious to see if anyone has hunted using the new Circuit Judge??? I would love to try it!!!
# kahl
Friday, August 05, 2011 5:32 PM
i personally prefer the old 30-06.
# BBooth11
Friday, August 05, 2011 5:59 PM
hard to beat a 270 for the long shots (I regularly practice with mine to 800 yards, though I don't think I would shoot a game that far) I used to have a 300 win mag, but you could crawl through the wound cavity on short shots... got tired of wasting good meat!
# josharp777
Friday, August 05, 2011 6:08 PM
How well does a .223Rem hold up to deer?
# james fedder
Friday, August 05, 2011 6:28 PM
223 is the best droped all 6 where they have been standing
# rstewart5
Friday, August 05, 2011 6:43 PM
I have been shooting a 308 for 25 years never had a problem even got elk with it. but the 6.5 sounds like one I would be interested in.
# jsolomon6
Saturday, August 06, 2011 7:22 AM
I have shot a 30-06 for 20 years. I would be interested in trying the new 6.5 but i have shot alot of deer and two elk and never had to track an animal with the 30-06. Tough to change especally when you have something that gets the job done
# josharp777
Saturday, August 06, 2011 11:51 AM
thanks for the post james. I have a Marlin 30-30 for most of the land I hunt but there are a few areas I was hoping to open my range up a little with my M&P15. I don't have any family with that caliber to ask so I was unsure. And other conversations I have looked at always get to arguing over using the "Black guns" as hunting rifles.
# dcarter11
Saturday, August 06, 2011 2:29 PM
some of the old war riffles make good deer guns. I have a mosen nagant 7.62xd54r every deer I hit with it has dropped like a rock after rolling a time or 2. the 203 grain bullet is the key but you can get lighter rounds that are faster and have less drop. I also have an SKS for brush hunting that I got when I was about 13 years old. Kills deer just fine with out much tracking. My overall Favorate for brush is my marline 30-30 and for 100 to 300 yards I like my mosen nagant. The sks rattles to much and the game wardens are always checking it out because it can be loaded with more than 5 round.
# dcarter11
Saturday, August 06, 2011 2:36 PM
I also wanted to ad that the best cartridge for deer hunting depends on you, the size of the average leagle deer in the area you hunt, the range you will most likley be shooting from, as well as how quickly a well placeb shot will kill the deer you shoot with it. Tracking is something that I love to do. but I think all the tracking sould be done before the kill with as little as posible after the kill.
# dp54
Saturday, August 06, 2011 4:31 PM
Well, it seems that everything is compared to a 30.06. It almost as good as an .06. It is a little better than an .06. I like the 30.06. It has been good for everything from whitetails to moose and a lot of critters in betweeen. Try to bum a few 6.5s at hunting camp if you need to. The gun companies have to come up with new things for us to buy. Most of them fade, The 30.06 will be here long after we will!
# kahl
Saturday, August 06, 2011 6:11 PM
well said dp54. every deer hunting cartridge i ever owned, i took in consideration the availibilty of ammo. as i said before, im currently using a '06. previous deer rifle was a .308, another very popular deer round in my area.
# ckell
Sunday, August 07, 2011 8:35 AM
I started with the 30-06, moved to the 25-06 ( outstanding), and finally found a model 600 rem. in 350 Rem mag. Granted, the 150 grainer IS destructive ( rem core locks, hand loaded). The deer I have shot with the 350 HAVE NOT RUN. Neck shots, shoulder , and quartering away, have all dropped within 10 yards. Not to say that all my deer have run far and wide from the other calibers. I have come to believe the quicker the animal shuts off, the better.
# PBagley
Sunday, August 07, 2011 8:54 AM
I use the 280 and the 7mm08 both are great for deer, elk, moose, and black bears. I've hunted with them all over the US and Canada. The 7mm bullet is great esp if your a reloader, the bullet coefficent is the best of all the bullets made.
# josharp777
Sunday, August 07, 2011 9:26 AM
Im seeing alot of the 30-06 fans. I am looking to buy a more all round rifle and have been looking at the .270 and the 30-06 in the winchester ballistics calculator. The .270 drops much less than the 06. I know theory and real world sometimes differ so has anyone tested both side by side? Not I had one a while back and my new one shoots better now, Im more interested in the bullet performance. I can work out rifle price based on that.
# CBANACH
Sunday, August 07, 2011 11:30 AM
i'll stick with my 12g. hollow point slogs and my .50 cal hollow point power belts! (under 200 yards of course)
# sgillespie1
Sunday, August 07, 2011 11:54 AM
I shoot the 270 because it is a flat and the bullet doesn't drop as much.I use 130 grain soft tip or ballistic tip in Remington,any thing heavier or any other brand just want work.
# cb2011
Sunday, August 07, 2011 1:03 PM
Well, I personally use the 270 because it is very flat shooting, doesnt kick too terribly bad, and has enough knock down power. Although, the perfect caliber, like earlier stated, depends on your hunting conditions and practices. If hunting bottoms you might prefer the larger calibers for the long shots or if you hunt the brush the 3030 would be more like it. But any gun will work as long as you have good SHOT PLACEMENT.
# cbolling
Sunday, August 07, 2011 5:33 PM
30-06 rifle of choice. Have used 3030 and 270. But still like old reliable.
# grnwdjsn
Sunday, August 07, 2011 5:49 PM
I have two stand-by's for deer. The venerable .30-06 for all around hunting situations. Very few calibers have the proven track record, accuracy, knock down power and value of the -06. I would not be afraid to hunt anything in the U.S. with this rifle. When I get the opportunity to visit the west in search of Muley's and Pronghorn, i prefer my .257 Weatherby Mag. - if you need to reach way out and touch something, this is the gun for you.
# dmellott1
Sunday, August 07, 2011 6:12 PM
I have .243, .308, 30-06, 7mm but my like 25-06 for hunting deer.
# srutland
Sunday, August 07, 2011 7:31 PM
srutland sunday,august 07 7:26 pm I started out .243, move to .308 now with with a bad case of OLD, I shoot 7mm-08
# 358norma
Sunday, August 07, 2011 7:48 PM
7x57 Mauser or the old 3040 Krag.....
# chelms1
Sunday, August 07, 2011 8:20 PM
the 300 savage
# rstewart2
Monday, August 08, 2011 3:19 AM
i have all way used a 308 are a 12ga some times
# RBOSSOM
Monday, August 08, 2011 9:19 AM
I have used at least five (5) different rifle calibers, plus shotguns, in six (6) diferrent states, to take Whitetails but my overall favorite is the .308.
# CWiberg
Monday, August 08, 2011 11:50 AM
I used the 243 for many years without problems. Shoots very flat, especially with 85 grain bullets and has plenty of punching power. I did purchase an 06 a couple years ago and this has been a fun gun and really is more than enough. that said, when I step into the woods with my 243, I never feel undergunned. I handload and don't worry too much about cartridge availability and would love to play with some new, or even old calibers, but finances dictate that I stick with what I've got.
# npaul
Monday, August 08, 2011 12:09 PM
When my dad was around 10 years old, he asked his mom if he could shoot the deer in the back yard. She, thinking he was joking, said “Sure”. He snuck out to the corn field next door and shot a doe right between the eyes… with a .22… dropped her like a rock.
I have always thought that the best cartridge is the one that gets the job done. I’m not advocating using a .22 rimfire to hunt deer but what I am saying is that the cartridge that you like is the best one for you.
I love the 30-06. I use the 150 to 165 grain bullet for deer and a 180 grain for Elk. My wife wants to start hunting this year and we are looking at getting her a .308.
If it gets the job done and it’s in your comfort zone… it’s the best.
# bboring
Monday, August 08, 2011 1:43 PM
45 dead deer, Blacktail and Mulies, with no lost animals says the .243 is just fine. .338WinMag for elk. There are lots of great calibers. Find a gun that fits you and does the job.
# jniles
Monday, August 08, 2011 4:24 PM
I use a 6.5 Remington Mag and have never had a deer get away. I have made shots of 400 yards plus. It is an awesome calibuer.
# pkeyes
Monday, August 08, 2011 5:34 PM
I used a .308 Win. for 25+ years, and anything that gets in it's way goes down in short order. I use a black gun for coyotes in .223 these days, but 130 grain pills from the .308 have done the trick too. All are hand loads with 110 to 180 grain bullets.
# rmcdonald12
Monday, August 08, 2011 7:52 PM
I can trust my 270 to take any big game in North America, I load my own bullets so I can make custom combos of bullet type and weight as well as amount of powder as long as I use a little common sense I can hunt every thing from deer to elk or even moose.
# mcarpenter5
Tuesday, August 09, 2011 5:32 AM
carp

Maybe I'm getting old, but years ago there was a long range cartrige
that was use for bean fields. The rifle was the 264 Win Mag
# 1966samcat
Tuesday, August 09, 2011 12:30 PM
I'm glad several of you pointed out the value of the .30-06, .308 and the Jack O'Connor special, the .270. Of course all the others are valuable as well in the right environment and in the right hands. Of course I'll still be in the field with my .300 Win. mag. Good luck this fall with whatever you tote into the deer woods.
# kpal720
Wednesday, August 10, 2011 10:39 PM
i use a 30-06 and if you know how to use it you can drop a deer at 1000 yds a havalena at 30 ft and even a 351 windsor at point blank
# jasonosborn
Wednesday, August 10, 2011 11:03 PM
It all comes down to shooter. I got a 243 when I was 13. Use it for everything. 26 whitetail bucks, 6 muley bucks, 4 black bears, and 2 bull elk. Please understand the elk and bears were from a tree and under 20 yds. I have video and 3 witnesses of a whitetail buck at 379 yds, 390 yds, 460 yds, and a 9x11 muley at 579 yds. None of them went more than 20 ft. Learn your equipment. I have not changed guns, ammo, or scope in 11 yrs. I know where it will hit at all ranges, every time. Eliminate as many variables as you can and your shooting will improve severely
# zimbo9862
Thursday, August 11, 2011 6:42 AM
30-06 !!! if it ain't broke , don't try fixin it.
# em
Thursday, August 11, 2011 12:22 PM
I have hunted with 30-06, 257 roberts, 7mm 08 the 25-06 was my go to deer rifle untill a couple years ago when I aquired a 7mm remington magnum, this has become my all time favorite deer rifle/ big game rifle! all the others have been great rifles and never failed to do there job. the area I hunt is open farm land where longer shots are common.
# em
Thursday, August 11, 2011 12:24 PM
in my opinion the gun is far less important than shot placement and being able to shoot you gun accurately and know your limitations with your firearm !
# TyTrae15
Saturday, August 13, 2011 8:13 AM
.270 win
# jsurface1962
Sunday, August 14, 2011 8:08 PM
I love my oldie but goodie. I have a Carl Gustafs Stad 6.5x55 Swedish. Unfortunately when I found it, it had already been modded with a composite stock and scope. That being said I replaced the scope and sighted it at 50 yards first, then moved the target to 100 yards, there was not change in my aim or impact. I moved the target to 150 yards and was still on without changing anything. I've dropped 5 deer, but none further than 125 yards. Wish I could find a place to give my gun a real distance workout.
# Mike
Tuesday, August 16, 2011 1:15 PM
I have a .270, 30/30 and 6.8, the 30-06 is a good gun, but if I want my shoulder disclocated, I'll use my Mosin Nagant!
The reason everyone compaires other rounds to the 30-06 is because everyone shot the 06 in the military and it is an easy round to compare to.
Expect the comparison to be to the 5.56 in the near future as those of us that are old and salty are going the way of the dinosaur!
I've seen deer dropped by a well placed pistol round and deer run off after being slammed w/a 308...the round means nothing compared to shot placement.
# stewart
Saturday, October 29, 2011 8:45 AM
is a .357 mag good to take down deer with at less than 100 yards away?
# kahl
Saturday, October 29, 2011 8:54 AM
i have a .357 wheel gun, did alot of readin on the subject, and from what im gatherin on it, it should be good to 50 to 75 yards, in a rifle i would think 100 yrds
# stewart
Saturday, October 29, 2011 9:21 AM
thanks kahl our season starts Nov 12th will let you all know how it goes
# kahl
Saturday, October 29, 2011 9:31 AM
google hunting with a .357. alot of info on it, where i got mine

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