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Hardware And Software Of Long-Range Shooting

By: Bill Miller

Jul 26

To follow up on my last post about the new game of Rifle Golf, it seems appropriate to address the growing acceptance of taking long-range shots when hunting big game. There’s no doubt the equipment we use—rifles, optics, ammunition, ballistics calculators and rests—have advanced to the point where they absolutely can produce long-range, one-shot kills. As one of the competitors in the Vortex Extreme Invitational told me, “With the gear we have now, the math behind these shots is easy.”

There are two parts to the long-range equation. The gear is the hardware, but the hunter/shooter who powers the rig must be considered the software. Both are equally important to the formula that produces clean, one-shot kills. I can’t think there’s any disagreement that instant, one-shot kills are the ultimate shooting goal of every ethical hunter.

The first question we must answer is, “What is long range?” From the hardware side of things, that answer is definitely somewhere well beyond 500 yards, but from the software side, the answer is highly variable depending on the shooter. Big parts of the answer depend on geography and hunting experience.

Eastern United States hunters know that in the vast majority of their big game hunting, 200 yards will be a long shot. Decades of data reveal the vast majority of whitetails east of the Mississippi are taken at 100 yards or less. Sure, there are exceptions like bean fields in the Carolinas or power line cuts in the Upper Midwest, etc. Some zones in this region are limited to slug guns and muzzleloaders, which are hardware restrictions that limit long-range shots. But where rifles can be used, the hardware selected can be capable of shooting well beyond 500 yards.

On the prairies and in the mountains, it’s a different ball game all together. There, you can spot game literally from miles away, and with good optics you can often get a good, unobstructed view of your game at 1,000 yards or more. If you’re shooting a cartridge, bullet, rifle and optics combo from a reliable rest that allows you to deliver the bullet accurately and with sufficient energy to make a clean, one-shot kill, then why shouldn’t you take it?

Only you can determine whether the software part of the equation has been programmed to make the shot, but the hard and fast rule is this: If you haven’t practiced the shot in similar conditions—a bunch—then you have no business taking the shot in the field.

This poses the biggest problem for Eastern hunters who go to the West. Places to shoot out to 1,000 yards in the East are very limited. And the ranges that do have 1,000-yard facilities in the East are usually behind the gates of private clubs. There just aren’t enough places to practice those shots with any frequency.

In the West, 1,000-yard ranges are much more common and accessible, but even then it can be tough to duplicate “field conditions” in a traditional range setting. That’s why I’m excited about Spirit Ridge Rifle Golf. It allows the opportunity to practice true long-range shooting under conditions as close as possible to what will actually happen in the field. And it’s in an environment where the stakes aren’t nearly as high because there's no risk of wounding and losing a magnificent big game animal.

For hunters who will truly dedicate themselves to pairing the right hardware and software to make long-range shots, I’m not against it. It’s another form of hunting excitement, just as is getting within spitting distance. On the other hand, my own rule is that if I have even the slightest doubt about making the shot, then I’ll opt to pass and find a way to get closer.

21 comments

# tthhwackem
Tuesday, July 26, 2011 9:21 PM
I have to agree with you to a point. Most hunters know's their effective range, however, the problem is the software that lies to it's self that "it was a good clean shot" when the practice has not been accounted for. I am sure many animals have been taken cleanly at those ranges, and some have been lost, hopefully MISERABLY. I feel even 500 yds for a kill is just too far. I simply can not contemplate ANY situation where I could garentee another living creature would not move less than 1/2 inch in the roughly 2 seconds it would take for a round to be delivered down range. Now don't get me wrong, I would absolutely love to be able to make a round of rifle golf, or any kind of long range shooting practice ranges, I really would. I just think when you factor in the ALIVE factor, too many variables exist to ethically take the shot, even for well educated software.
# jridings
Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:31 AM
I have a 600 yd range available and a couple of '-06's. With my Garand, there is a major consideration change between 300 yd and 600 yd. Rifle "golf" is not ethical in my book, but it is allowed in the fact that the Constitution imposes no limits on hunting. If the "golf" is on paper fine if on flesh and blood... I hope your conscience can handle the close but no cigar shots. We are not tossing grenades. Should we resist this type of temptation, yes, unless you have the shooting foundation of a 18" gun off one of the decommissioned ships of the navy.
# npaul
Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:49 AM
I've heard it said that "Moral is what is right and wrong, ethical is what is accepted as right and wrong.” The long range shot becomes immoral when the hunter says something like "I'm pretty sure I can make this shot." It's all about making the shots you KNOW you can make.
My very first buck was taken under a multitude of "unethical" situations. I was at 250 yards as a first time hunter shooting at a deer in his bed. The rest of the story is that I had my dad (an avid hunter) calling the shot, I had a huge rock to rest on and a wide open lane to shoot through (one open hillside to another). My Dad told me where to aim and I was able to take my time. One shot and I had a beautiful 5X5 Mule deer.
For me long range shots are a question of what is the moral decision. Staying in the boundary of my known ability is the moral thing.
# 9cookroad
Wednesday, July 27, 2011 1:34 PM
I only have one thing to say about long range shooting, do you know the wind currents between you and the target?
# SteelCandy
Wednesday, July 27, 2011 2:50 PM
IMHO, at least in the areas I have been, I know I can make the 300 yard shot 99.99% of the time, however I never take that shot in a hunting situation. I try to get as close as possible, I owe it to the animal to give it a fair chance. Sniping across the valley at ranges over 700 yards which some people I know love to do is not my idea of an enjoyable hunt.
# rstevens211
Thursday, July 28, 2011 1:58 AM
all of you guys have a great point. the only problem is one person's idea of ethical and another person's idea are totally different, and it is up the shooter to decide if their shot will be ethical... but that is a choice they will have to live with. conditions change in the field so much that i would consider my maximum distance to be about 400 yards, but my average shot is about 125. it all comes down to what the shooter is capable of and the conditions at the time.
# jscott21
Thursday, July 28, 2011 9:55 AM
In the late 1800's the buffalo hunters had to stand off and shoot long range in order to make the maximum number of kills without spooking the herd. They, however were hunting for market, Unlike hunters today who are hunting for table or trophy. Long range is not really sporting. Getting in close on a stalk is 9/10 of the fun.
# catman
Thursday, July 28, 2011 10:11 AM
I hunt to the east of the Muddy Mississippi. As you noted, really long shots are very rare. But if we are speaking of whitetails, then it's almost to the point of "varmint hunting" in my area. They are a traffic hazard, constant pests to gardeners, and even though they are 'cute' to watch, they carry ticks and fleas that can be harmful to people and pets. Taking shots at deer at any range is helpful. With a deer population in the neighborhood of 2 million, we aren't running low.
# joeking76
Friday, July 29, 2011 9:18 AM
u all have made some damn good points in deciding on whats long range and short range and what u use but u all know the ones that r good at makin one shot kills at long range r the army and marine snipers cuz thats what they do on a daily basis in combat and its got 2 the point where they dont use .308s nymore they r using barrett .50s 2 make long range shots and most of them r over a mile and w shots like that theyve got 2 use some fansty gizmos that factor in wind speed direction and humidity so think about whats long range now
# tripnchip
Friday, July 29, 2011 10:43 AM
I'll just ask, is shooting a animal at 1000 yards hunting or just spoting and shooting?
# npaul
Friday, July 29, 2011 11:18 AM
I think it depends on where you take the shot from. After a 3 mile hike it's hunting. From your back deck, spot and shoot.
# 358norma
Friday, July 29, 2011 7:34 PM
I have shot long range 1000+ Yards...USMC trained. Most people can't judge the distance or even know their gear well enought to shoot that far. A 308 shooting a 164gr bullet will drop 12 feet. in 1000 yards and it has a flight time of 3 seconds if deer sized animal takes one step in that 3 seconds and you just missed the hart/lungs area and hit it in the guts. Not a very clean kill. For me hunting is getting up close within 75 yards thats the thrill of the hunt. And it takes practice to keep the skill alive.
# coonrod
Saturday, July 30, 2011 11:13 AM
Only if the shot can be a kill shot.
# tthhwackem
Sunday, July 31, 2011 8:37 PM
what an irresponcible resonce, three steps or three miles, it does not matter. Plain and simple, 1000 yrds is simlply too far for a ethical kill shot.
# joconnor1
Monday, August 01, 2011 12:46 PM
I agree, 1000 yd shot on a trophy is a bit far.. I'm not saying it's not impossible, but the odds are, will it be a good clean shot? I can see having a better shot at 500 to 600 yds, but anything further it'd be a hail-mary.
# dcarter11
Monday, August 01, 2011 2:53 PM
a 1000 yard shot at a deer or other animal seems like someone is just looking for a challenge in marksmanship rather than a challenge in hunting. I can hit a target at that range but I would never shoot an animal at that range unless I had a darn good reason for it. Like say you are hunting a confirmed man eater, you have 465 or better(I don't) and you know that if you make a well placed shot you will kill the critter with it, but if you are too close and you mess up or can't get a shot off because big bad and hungry is already on top of you. then a 1000 yard shot is more than just ideal... Shooting a white tail at that distance. I realy can't say.
# tthhwackem
Monday, August 01, 2011 7:56 PM
and if you miss @ that range???now your man eater is not only hungry but pizzed off, and knows his life is in danger, now you have compounded it and made it worse. FLAT OUT 1000 is too damn far, FOR ANY REASON, under any circumctance. Weather it is a 465, a 308 or any other round. Targets, fine, anything else is unethical.
# jaegerjohan
Monday, August 01, 2011 10:35 PM
Wow! Are we hunters, or marksman that want to brag about how long a shot we successfully made? I'm not saying I wouldn't take a shot over 400 yards if the situation warranted it, but that would be a very rare opportunity.
After bow hunting for years here in Arizona (I have 2 Coues' deer, 1 elk and 1 antelope in Pope and Young) I usually find I've closed the distance without even thinking about it.
If you want something that's worth bragging about, brag about your hunting and stalking skills. Anyone can make a long shot now with the eqipment available, and a little practice.
# npaul
Tuesday, August 02, 2011 11:08 AM
Seeing that there is no way to settle this debate we are left with one true question and answer. “Do I think this is an ethical shot?” If YOUR answer is no then don’t shoot. If YOUR answer is yes then take the shot. In my book a one shot kill at a million yards is as good as one from twelve. It’s preference. If you love to stock and the challenge of getting close, great. If you love the challenge (and it will always be regardless of equipment) of that long calculated shot, wonderful. Bottom line, hunt the style YOU are good at and don’t worry about anyone else’s method or opinion.
# dcarter11
Friday, August 05, 2011 10:38 AM
tthhwackem believe this. There is no way in God's Earth I would ever take a shot that I'm not confident in. and yes you are right, now you missed and big bad and hungry is hunting you. Im not going to use me as bait. 1000 yards not a good shot. not for aj hunter any ways.
# tthhwackem
Friday, August 05, 2011 9:19 PM
jaegerjohan, npaul and many others have made good points. And boy would I still a shot of rifle golf.....

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